Sig NEXT 2026 (Page 3 of 3)
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Bandaids. Hopefully the 385 can manage a higher round count than the 365, & SIG has fixed their Indian MIM issue. Show us all the broken MIM parts. According to all the mim parts posts there should be crates full of these defective parts. So show them already. |
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Originally Posted By NachoDip: I think I’m up to 80 of them. I still like my P320 and M17/M18. Originally Posted By NachoDip: Originally Posted By macman37: They need a trade in/trade up program. I have a solid stash of P320 mags still. I think I’m up to 80 of them. I still like my P320 and M17/M18. I like mine a lot. Upgraded trigger, got a Romeo on it… did some work on it. Never choked or detonated even once. I got an early one. I did the voluntary recall too. |
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I have several P365 variants, and like the line a lot. I will be interested in getting a P385 at some point. I have my old duty P226, a P224, P239, and a few others. I converted my P226 to 9mm, and really enjoy shooting it, especially after getting it RDS cut, and putting a Holosite 507 on it. I have never got into the P320 brand, and happily so, i know a lot of guys that have them, and mixed feelings. I am sure if i pick up a P385 that P320 mags will be plentiful. LOL |
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An actual shooter does a little bit of shooting with P385s:  FIRST SHOTS - Sig Sauer P385 |
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Here's the XRAY5:  Seriously no other red dot does this - Sig Sauer Foxtrot 5 first look I wouldn't be in a hurry to be one of the first guys to put one on a defensive or duty gun, but that thing is nuts. |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: If anyone has any questions on any of the new (or old) products from NEXT let me know and i will do my best to answer them. I work for Sig on the training team. Find out if they’ll have a factory threaded barrel option for the 385. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: This might be the cringiest video in TFB's history, but here it is:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eni_dA6l-KMI see more of the car than I do the gun, but no matter, I'm not their customer. |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: Threaded barrels will definitely happen. What I can’t promise is WHEN they will happen. Originally Posted By dbaird: Originally Posted By macman37: Find out if they’ll have a factory threaded barrel option for the 385. Threaded barrels will definitely happen. What I can’t promise is WHEN they will happen. ‘Preciate it! I saw your post in the tech forum, glad the engineers did what they do. Looks like Sig put some real effort into the 385. |
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Originally Posted By macman37: ‘Preciate it! I saw your post in the tech forum, glad the engineers did what they do. Looks like Sig put some real effort into the 385. Very excited for this one. One of the demo ones we got to shoot a few months ago had over 20k rds through it with no failures or part changes just to see how stuff would wear. 
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Originally Posted By dbaird: Very excited for this one. One of the demo ones we got to shoot a few months ago had over 20k rds through it with no failures or part changes just to see how stuff would wear. That’s nice to see. Serious question; Are there any made in India parts in the 385? |
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Originally Posted By davidb1982: That’s nice to see. Serious question; Are there any made in India parts in the 385? Honest answer, i have zero idea. I don’t have anything to do with the production side. We have been increasing production scale non-stop and making more and more in house just to help control as much as possible on our supply chain. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: I'm just being pragmatic here. I don't think there's any realistic scenario in which Sig can publicly accept responsibility or try to make things right while continuing to survive as a company. There's too much liability. Beyond the existing cases, if Sig opens themselves up to that liability, they'd be presumed guilty for every AD/ND/UD event that ever happens with a P320 pistol no matter the cause, and each of those would come with a 7-9 figure judgement. Their choices are to continue delicately dancing around and managing the issue until it slowly fades away or to go bankrupt. There is no middle option. If you're mad about having an expensive paper weight in the safe, that's completely understandable. The good news is, there are non-Sig firearms on the market that use P320 magazines if you want to use those magazines without giving Sig more of your money. Besides, they last thing that want to do is drop it.  |
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Originally Posted By DH2: That's one of the reasons I figure they're gonna make P320s pretty much forever. Besides, they last thing that want to do is drop it. They'll offramp production eventually. It's a thoroughly unappealing pistol, even without the safety issues. |
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Originally Posted By AK-12: They'll offramp production eventually. It's a thoroughly unappealing pistol, even without the safety issues. I will say, the P320 Compact was the most accurate gun I have ever shot. Thing was a laser without a red dot. |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: If anyone has any questions on any of the new (or old) products from NEXT let me know and i will do my best to answer them. I work for Sig on the training team. Is the XRAY5 as crazy as it looks? Or does it mostly feel like a normal pistol dot with some extra app functions? Does the trigger on the P385 feel like the trigger on the P365? |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Is the XRAY5 as crazy as it looks? Or does it mostly feel like a normal pistol dot with some extra app functions? Does the trigger on the P385 feel like the trigger on the P365? Xray 5 is both crazy and normal haha. So you can adjust it via the app and Bluetooth etc. or just shut off Bluetooth and adjust it on the optic itself. You dont need the app for the dot to work and zero. I was a bit skeptical when i saw the prototypes because all digital seemed iffy. But that thing has been beat up like crazy and they dont break. It has zero moving components inside, all solid state. We actually had to get new water depth testing equipment just because of them. They were able to go so deep in the water that the water pressure was physically pressing the buttons in on the optic, not the optic failing due to water incursion. Image is insanely good through them as well since its plate glass inside. Before the tinfoilers get crazy, you can shut Bluetooth off and the optic still works. We can’t hack your optic 385 trigger is wayyy better to me than any 365 ive ever shot. |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: Xray 5 is both crazy and normal haha. So you can adjust it via the app and Bluetooth etc. or just shut off Bluetooth and adjust it on the optic itself. You dont need the app for the dot to work and zero. I was a bit skeptical when i saw the prototypes because all digital seemed iffy. But that thing has been beat up like crazy and they dont break. It has zero moving components inside, all solid state. We actually had to get new water depth testing equipment just because of them. They were able to go so deep in the water that the water pressure was physically pressing the buttons in on the optic, not the optic failing due to water incursion. Image is insanely good through them as well since its plate glass inside. Before the tinfoilers get crazy, you can shut Bluetooth off and the optic still works. We can’t hack your optic 385 trigger is wayyy better to me than any 365 ive ever shot. And it auto adjusts to light conditions as well? I thought I read that in the product description on the website. |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: Xray 5 is both crazy and normal haha. So you can adjust it via the app and Bluetooth etc. or just shut off Bluetooth and adjust it on the optic itself. You dont need the app for the dot to work and zero. I was a bit skeptical when i saw the prototypes because all digital seemed iffy. But that thing has been beat up like crazy and they dont break. It has zero moving components inside, all solid state. We actually had to get new water depth testing equipment just because of them. They were able to go so deep in the water that the water pressure was physically pressing the buttons in on the optic, not the optic failing due to water incursion. Image is insanely good through them as well since its plate glass inside. Before the tinfoilers get crazy, you can shut Bluetooth off and the optic still works. We can’t hack your optic 385 trigger is wayyy better to me than any 365 ive ever shot. Originally Posted By dbaird: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Is the XRAY5 as crazy as it looks? Or does it mostly feel like a normal pistol dot with some extra app functions? Does the trigger on the P385 feel like the trigger on the P365? Xray 5 is both crazy and normal haha. So you can adjust it via the app and Bluetooth etc. or just shut off Bluetooth and adjust it on the optic itself. You dont need the app for the dot to work and zero. I was a bit skeptical when i saw the prototypes because all digital seemed iffy. But that thing has been beat up like crazy and they dont break. It has zero moving components inside, all solid state. We actually had to get new water depth testing equipment just because of them. They were able to go so deep in the water that the water pressure was physically pressing the buttons in on the optic, not the optic failing due to water incursion. Image is insanely good through them as well since its plate glass inside. Before the tinfoilers get crazy, you can shut Bluetooth off and the optic still works. We can’t hack your optic 385 trigger is wayyy better to me than any 365 ive ever shot. Is the recoil reduction on the non-comp models noticeable compared to a P320 or a Glock or whatever? Or is most of the improvement from the lower bore axis? |
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Originally Posted By STJ: Yes their guns are questionable, but their optics are pretty good. Have any of the optics discharged in holsters?
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His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: This might be the cringiest video in TFB's history, but here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eni_dA6l-KMfirst two seconds of that video 'of course not, the 320 is one of our most popular models it's not going anywhere.' these guys just cannot stop lying about their products and company. it sucks living in CA where new pistols are hard to get, and sig makes them available on the roster, but after the past few years they've made it impossible to trust as a company and I probably never buy from them again. |
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385 is a nice looking gun and I'd buy it if it was made by anyone other than Sig. Same with the 211, I completely avoided it. I have a bunch of 320's, like 9 of them. They have been paperweights sitting in the safe and I haven't touched them in a long time. Sig has done nothing to address the issue. Then I had my mag release break on my 365 Legion, and when I google it, I see it's a common issue with the 365. Again, I have a ton of them and now they're all useless. Sig's apparent answer is that I'm supposed to just use my 365 and when the mag release breaks, I call them for a new one...and I hope it doesn't break at a really bad time. There are serious issues with their guns and they won't address them, they just expect you to let them break and then they'll fix them? They burned me twice and I'm never going back. I went with M&P's and have been very happy. Shove the 385 up your ass Sig, you've screwed me out of way too much money already. |
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Originally Posted By Bennjammin: first two seconds of that video 'of course not, the 320 is one of our most popular models it's not going anywhere.' these guys just cannot stop lying about their products and company. it sucks living in CA where new pistols are hard to get, and sig makes them available on the roster, but after the past few years they've made it impossible to trust as a company and I probably never buy from them again. Originally Posted By Bennjammin: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: This might be the cringiest video in TFB's history, but here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eni_dA6l-KMfirst two seconds of that video 'of course not, the 320 is one of our most popular models it's not going anywhere.' these guys just cannot stop lying about their products and company. it sucks living in CA where new pistols are hard to get, and sig makes them available on the roster, but after the past few years they've made it impossible to trust as a company and I probably never buy from them again. I get it, but I legitimately don't think they could say anything different, even if they wanted to. In the auto industry, manufacturers make oopsies that kill people on a somewhat regular basis. They take losses that hurt the bottom line, but they're able to move on for a variety of reasons. Things like: They have many billions in revenue, and they can survive losing a few. They have diverse product lines, and they can survive one going south. They don't make controversial products. Their industry isn't heavily politicized. Accidents leave a ton of evidence that confirms or denies causes. The GM ignition switch screw up killed 120+ people. It cost them ~$1B in losses at a time when they had $150B+ in revenue, and while plenty of people chased a payday, nobody tried to destroy GM. Sig's situation is basically the opposite of all of this. The P320 was a pillar of their company, there's a much lower limit to how much they could pay out, and states like CA, WA, NY, and NJ would absolutely try to destroy Sig if given the opportunity. They wouldn't try to make people whole. They would seek to wipe out the whole company. I'm not saying it's right or that I like it, but that's the world we live in, and Sig is working in that world. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: I get it, but I legitimately don't think they could say anything different, even if they wanted to. In the auto industry, manufacturers make oopsies that kill people on a somewhat regular basis. They take losses that hurt the bottom line, but they're able to move on for a variety of reasons. Things like: They have many billions in revenue, and they can survive losing a few. They have diverse product lines, and they can survive one going south. They don't make controversial products. Their industry isn't heavily politicized. Accidents leave a ton of evidence that confirms or denies causes. The GM ignition switch screw up killed 120+ people. It cost them ~$1B in losses at a time when they had $150B+ in revenue, and while plenty of people chased a payday, nobody tried to destroy GM. Sig's situation is basically the opposite of all of this. The P320 was a pillar of their company, there's a much lower limit to how much they could pay out, and states like CA, WA, NY, and NJ would absolutely try to destroy Sig if given the opportunity. They wouldn't try to make people whole. They would seek to wipe out the whole company. I'm not saying it's right or that I like it, but that's the world we live in, and Sig is working in that world. Sig deserves to be wiped out man. Ignore the 320, the 365 mag release retaining thingy breaks. It's a shitty plastic design and it breaks. the part costs a few pennies. Sig will let you carry a defensive handgun with a part is knows for certain is prone to fail and it won't address it. They would rather pretend their guns are flawless than do the right thing over a very cheap part. You just let it break and hope it happens at a convenient time? If they won't address a simple mag release part, they suck as a company and deserve to go out of business. |
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Originally Posted By InflectionPoint: There is NOTHING wrong with their older metal framed DA/SA and SAO pistols. My 365XL is as close to perfect for me as any handgun I've ever had in my nearly 40 years of gun ownership. |
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Originally Posted By TresOsos: Tells you all you need to know. How many guns take Glock mags? Maybe they're dreaming of a ubiquitous mag of their own? |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: And it auto adjusts to light conditions as well? I thought I read that in the product description on the website. Not to light conditions but we have a pistol light coming out that they talk to each other and adjust dot brightness when the light is activated. Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Is the recoil reduction on the non-comp models noticeable compared to a P320 or a Glock or whatever? Or is most of the improvement from the lower bore axis? Yes still noticeable over the 320. Low bore axis but also the buffer system in the grip module |
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Originally Posted By esdunbar: Sig deserves to be wiped out man. Ignore the 320, the 365 mag release retaining thingy breaks. It's a shitty plastic design and it breaks. the part costs a few pennies. Sig will let you carry a defensive handgun with a part is knows for certain is prone to fail and it won't address it. They would rather pretend their guns are flawless than do the right thing over a very cheap part. You just let it break and hope it happens at a convenient time? If they won't address a simple mag release part, they suck as a company and deserve to go out of business. Cry harder. |
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Originally Posted By Rockdoc: Show us all the broken MIM parts. According to all the mim parts posts there should be crates full of these defective parts. So show them already. Originally Posted By Rockdoc: Originally Posted By backbencher: Bandaids. Hopefully the 385 can manage a higher round count than the 365, & SIG has fixed their Indian MIM issue. Show us all the broken MIM parts. According to all the mim parts posts there should be crates full of these defective parts. So show them already. We've had 5 with broken parts at our shop in the last two years. Four of those were P320 extractors shearing off on low-round-count guns. One was the tip of the recoil spring guide-rod in a P210 target that had never been fired. We've been waiting on a replacement for that part from SIG for 8 months. |
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I guess they're not done. They're calling this the MCX-LTAW:  There's a pistol, a SBR, and this combo that includes the SBR + suppressor + optic. I'm sure this one'll be reasonably priced.
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Originally Posted By WorkDroid: Does the safety block the trigger or the sear on this new model? The new safety is called Trigger Block and that’s exactly what it does. Blocks the trigger if something catches the side of the blade and pulls it back. This in addition to the internal safety features similar to like the p365. |