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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:12:31 PM EDT
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Your house has glass too. Easy to break. Leaving a gun in a locked car is fine by me, it should be hidden but I'm not going to say anyone should be prosecuted for being a victim of Theft. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Even leaving them otherwise unsecured in an unattended but locked car or truck is negligent, IMO. Glass and all... it’s easy to break. Leaving a gun in a locked car is fine by me, it should be hidden but I'm not going to say anyone should be prosecuted for being a victim of Theft. Shamed? Yes. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:12:32 PM EDT
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It's kind of funny that the only people mentioning victim blaming or charging the victim are those disagreeing with OP. Leaving guns in vehicles is stupid |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:16:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your house windows are a fuck-ton easier to break than any car glass. I know that movies and TV show people just knocking out with their elbow - try it some time. Enjoy your trip to the emergency room. In some ways car windows are actually easier. Yeah, the initial break takes more skill, but once you are inyou don't have to worry nearly as much about getting cut on shards left in the frame. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:18:19 PM EDT
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1. Guns are not legal or socially acceptable to take everywhere. Want less stolen guns? Allow carry all places. 2. Sometimes I stop by the grocery store after the gun range. 3. Houses have windows 4. Yes, I try to minimize theft risk but get off your high horse  . No broken glass, just open the door, grab the valuables and walk off. It is routine around here.These are not cases of I left my gun in a locked car, out of sight while I ran into a no-carry store. I think their should be a penalty for leaving anything valuable or dangerous in an unlocked car. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:27:04 PM EDT
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No car is secure enough. No safe is secure enough No holster is secure enough No one is secure enough to prevent gun from being taken... Any more lefty points? Are there any more gun grabbing apologist arguments? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:28:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:28:41 PM EDT
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I have not and do not advocate the prosecution for victims of theft. Leaving guns, computers etc in an unlocked vehicle is stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thinly veiled criminalization of a victim thread.  Leaving guns, computers etc in an unlocked vehicle is stupid. 
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:28:45 PM EDT
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I agree, leaving guns in unlocked, unattended vehicles is negligent. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:29:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your house has glass too. Easy to break.. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:30:00 PM EDT
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Read me
Tuder, 30, was alone at the time and not wearing a bullet proof vest, added Battiste, although back up officers were already on the way. Questioned why Tuder was alone and undercover, Battiste said that being undercover was essential in attempting to arrest Perez. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:31:31 PM EDT
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Shame someone was killed with a gun that may not have been stolen if the car was locked. We see more car burglaries of unlocked cars than locked ones in my area. Less chance of causing alarm and getting caught by not breaking things to get into the car.
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:31:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If we start criminalizing stupidity, we are going to have to build a lot more prisons. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:33:16 PM EDT
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Some of us work at places that ban them in the worksite. Think before you type. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree, leaving guns in unlocked, unattended vehicles is negligent. Think before you type. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:36:58 PM EDT
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Further evidence that a lot of GD doesn't really carry.
GD: I carry a 10mm 1911 24/7 also GD: I have to leave my gun in my car 40 hours a week. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:38:20 PM EDT
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Cops in Mobile are always taking about the unlocked car issue it just blows my mind.
Anyway this is a sad deal by all accounts this officer was destined for great things and the perp and his mom are complete turds. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:39:11 PM EDT
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Read me For the cops here, why would you not have your vest on? Isn't it pretty much SOP to never not have it on when working? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:40:01 PM EDT
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It's surprising that even within our own extreme community, we have so many who obviously believe gun is the devil.
I've been saying it for years, we're fucked
How to change that thinking? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:40:24 PM EDT
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Read me For the cops here, why would you not have your vest on? Isn't it pretty much SOP to never not have it on when working? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Read me Tuder, 30, was alone at the time and not wearing a bullet proof vest, added Battiste, although back up officers were already on the way. Questioned why Tuder was alone and undercover, Battiste said that being undercover was essential in attempting to arrest Perez. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:40:38 PM EDT
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Further evidence that a lot of GD doesn't really carry. GD: I carry a 10mm 1911 24/7 also GD: I have to leave my gun in my car 40 hours a week. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:43:42 PM EDT
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Yeah being burglarized should make you a criminal  |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:46:53 PM EDT
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Why would you work for someone who does not respect your right of self defense? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree, leaving guns in unlocked, unattended vehicles is negligent. Think before you type. 
Or anyone who does service work at the VA, or a post office, or a courthouse, or a school? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:48:12 PM EDT
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Is your car unlocked for those 40 hours? Is your gun left in plane sight? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:50:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean like the military does?
Or anyone who does service work at the VA, or a post office, or a courthouse, or a school? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:50:53 PM EDT
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You guys sound like liberals. Let's make it a $1,000 fine and 30 days in jail if your gun gets stolen, that'll make everyone feel better about themselves. "Let's blame the evil gun owner, not the |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:52:32 PM EDT
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Is your car unlocked for those 40 hours? Is your gun left in plane sight? 
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:54:36 PM EDT
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If I park my car unlocked in a ghetto while I spend the night at a bordello should I be able to leave a pistol laying on the dashboard and have no liability when it's used to rob a liquor store? What if I make a pogo stick out of real 870s, load them, then bounce down to my kids's school and leave it laying against the bike rack for the day? Is there no difference between sticking your gun in the glove box while you run into the Mayor's office to get your llama a license while your car is parked outside the police station v throwing a 38 in your glove box and leaving it there, unlocked 24/7 until the car goes to the crusher or the gun is stolen? I can picture them calling their wives when they see you. "I'm going to be late, honey. HE'S here again". And the wife "OK dear, try not to lose your temper this time, remember what happened the last time, it was weeks before the rash disappeared". |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:54:55 PM EDT
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Your house has glass too. Easy to break. Leaving a gun in a locked car is fine by me, it should be hidden but I'm not going to say anyone should be prosecuted for being a victim of Theft. Knowing ahead of time how easy it is to break a car window to gain access to the cars contents, its negligent to handle the issue any other way. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:57:53 PM EDT
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Why would you work for someone who does not respect your right of self defense? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree, leaving guns in unlocked, unattended vehicles is negligent. Think before you type.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:58:57 PM EDT
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If you're going to leave it in a locked car, keep it in a locked safe or other secure licking device. Knowing ahead of time how easy it is to break a car window to gain access to the cars contents, its negligent to handle the issue any other way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your house has glass too. Easy to break. Leaving a gun in a locked car is fine by me, it should be hidden but I'm not going to say anyone should be prosecuted for being a victim of Theft. Knowing ahead of time how easy it is to break a car window to gain access to the cars contents, its negligent to handle the issue any other way. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:58:59 PM EDT
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If you're going to leave it in a locked car, keep it in a locked safe or other secure licking device. Knowing ahead of time how easy it is to break a car window to gain access to the cars contents, its negligent to handle the issue any other way.
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:59:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even when I served and was stationed in California we understood that concealed means concealed. Thanks for the heads up. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:00:56 PM EDT
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Great question. Why would you? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66085/Capture_JPG-819786.JPG |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:01:56 PM EDT
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Unlocked vehicle is stupid.
Locked vehicle is fine. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:02:32 PM EDT
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A vest pretty much spoils the undercover aspect. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Read me Tuder, 30, was alone at the time and not wearing a bullet proof vest, added Battiste, although back up officers were already on the way. Questioned why Tuder was alone and undercover, Battiste said that being undercover was essential in attempting to arrest Perez. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:03:39 PM EDT
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It's irresponsible but it shouldn't be criminal. The cat burglar is the one responsible. I never liked the thought of returning to my car to stare down the barrel of my own gun. That being said, you’re a lazy fucking idiot of you leave a gun in your car. And no, I’m not talking about when you have to run into a GFZ real quick, I’m talking about the window licking dipshits who constantly leave a gun in their car. It takes two seconds to break a window. I watch guns get stolen from locked and unlocked cars almost weekly. Do gun owners want to take away guns from dangerous individuals without infringing on peoples rights? Start with taking responsibility for their property. I have guns everywhere in my home, but they’re all secured. You’ll never catch me leaving a gun accessible in my car. Should the original owner from OP be charged? No. Should the fact this his stolen gun was used to kill someone else weigh heavily on his conscious for a long time? Fuck yes. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:04:36 PM EDT
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I don't get leaving guns in vehicles. Locked or unlocked. It's irresponsible. I don't get this criminalization of theft victims. I leave a gun in a (locked) vehicle all the time. I have to if I go to a place that doesn't allow CC inside. Should I just never carry because occasionally I have to leave my gat inside the car? GD is especially weird today. Especially. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:04:41 PM EDT
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This is correct. I cannot advocate for criminally punishing a burglary victim. That being said, you’re a lazy fucking idiot of you leave a gun in your car. And no, I’m not talking about when you have to run into a GFZ real quick, I’m talking about the window licking dipshits who constantly leave a gun in their car. It takes two seconds to break a window. I watch guns get stolen from locked and unlocked cars almost weekly. Do gun owners want to take away guns from dangerous individuals without infringing on peoples rights? Start with taking responsibility for their property. I have guns everywhere in my home, but they’re all secured. You’ll never catch me leaving a gun accessible in my car. Should the original owner from OP be charged? No. Should the fact this his stolen gun was used to kill someone else weigh heavily on his conscious for a long time? Fuck yes. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:04:51 PM EDT
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I left, that's the point. If your current employer does not allow you to have a gun at work, find a new job. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Great question. Why would you? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66085/Capture_JPG-819786.JPG |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:05:31 PM EDT
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No house is secure enough No safe is secure enough No holster is secure enough No one is secure enough to prevent gun from being taken... Any more lefty points? Are there any more gun grabbing apologist arguments? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No car is secure enough. No safe is secure enough No holster is secure enough No one is secure enough to prevent gun from being taken... Any more lefty points? Are there any more gun grabbing apologist arguments? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:05:39 PM EDT
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Read me For the cops here, why would you not have your vest on? Isn't it pretty much SOP to never not have it on when working? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:05:57 PM EDT
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Op is going to trigger the "I can leave my machineguns onthe clothesline to dry, don't blame the victim" crowd. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:06:36 PM EDT
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The trailer you live in. Is that a "vehicle" per your definition? I don't get this criminalization of theft victims. I leave a gun in a (locked) vehicle all the time. I have to if I go to a place that doesn't allow CC inside. Should I just never carry because occasionally I have to leave my gat inside the car? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:07:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. How about we blame the criminal, and not the victim. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:09:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're not allowed to have a gun in the grocery store??? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:10:03 PM EDT
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No, you should always carry. You have the option of simply not going those places, deciding your rights trump their rules and carrying anyway, or upgrading your vehicle with something like a trunk vault, or some combination of all three. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The trailer you live in. Is that a "vehicle" per your definition? I don't get this criminalization of theft victims. I leave a gun in a (locked) vehicle all the time. I have to if I go to a place that doesn't allow CC inside. Should I just never carry because occasionally I have to leave my gat inside the car? |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:10:44 PM EDT
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You're not allowed to have a gun in the grocery store??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1. Guns are not legal or socially acceptable to take everywhere. Want less stolen guns? Allow carry all places. 2. Sometimes I stop by the grocery store after the gun range. 3. Houses have windows 4. Yes, I try to minimize theft risk but get off your high horse |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:12:18 PM EDT
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Every time these types of threads pop up, GD never disappoints with its desire for common sense gun control. |
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:12:46 PM EDT
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If you're going to leave it in a locked car, keep it in a locked safe or other secure licking device. Knowing ahead of time how easy it is to break a car window to gain access to the cars contents, its negligent to handle the issue any other way. 
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:17:51 PM EDT
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It should be CRIMINALY NEGLIGENT. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree, leaving guns in unlocked, unattended vehicles is negligent. 
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:19:14 PM EDT
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I agree, leaving guns in unlocked, unattended vehicles is negligent. 
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