[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Slovak SBRs anybody? Grand Power STRIBOG pistol to be imported to US UPDATE 18APR19 (Page 16 of 23)
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Ok so put about 199 rounds downrange yesterday -No malfunctions -HBI bolt is AWESOME, having the ability to put the thumb up on this guy was great -gun is very accurate, more than me for sure -the factory flip up sights were dead on at 25 yards, I tested that through my cowitness -all magazines, 20’s and 30’s functioned perfectly —>I cannot be happier with this While good, there’s things I want to improve: -My last string of 20 rounds was not accurate and I thought my shitty cheap ass red dot base might be loose, even after loctite, got home and moved it by hand... damn it, so now I’m in the market for a solid low mount, I think ADM’s QD or something else, maybe MI, anybody have suggestions? -I need to my AR tube into a folder so I can make it compact, any suggestions on an affordable AR folder mod? I think I’m going this route -I could do both options above or wait for Safety harbor’s collapsible Brace and get a higher mount for the red dot Thoughts? https://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/view/product/107/ For a folder, I went with the Sig “Knuckle” folding adapter for the MPX plus the Safety Harbor pic end plate. Locks up tight, and my only issue is that the SB3A is a bit wide when folded, so it doesn’t quite snug up against the receiver. It’s very close, but not perfectly flat. I’m not sure that any AR buffer tube style brace or stock will fold totally flat, but it’s absolutely a nice compact package when folded. https://www.sigsauer.com/store/sig-sauer-stock-adapter-1913-interface-folding-knuckle.html The collapsible brace looks great, and I may pick one up at some point, but I’m going to see how the current setup does first. Good luck! |
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Quoted: I went with the ADM QD low mount and a Romeo 5 to start. Seems like a winner so far - that height gives me a perfect sight picture (but no cowitness with the built-in sights) when used with an SB3A brace, and it locks up nice and tight. It may get an T1 at some point, but now, the Romeo seems like a solid piece and I’m really liking the shake-to-wake feature. https://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/view/product/107/ For a folder, I went with the Sig “Knuckle” folding adapter for the MPX plus the Safety Harbor pic end plate. Locks up tight, and my only issue is that the SB3A is a bit wide when folded, so it doesn’t quite snug up against the receiver. It’s very close, but not perfectly flat. I’m not sure that any AR buffer tube style brace or stock will fold totally flat, but it’s absolutely a nice compact package when folded. https://www.sigsauer.com/store/sig-sauer-stock-adapter-1913-interface-folding-knuckle.html The collapsible brace looks great, and I may pick one up at some point, but I’m going to see how the current setup does first. Good luck! On the adapter I’d rather not have to substitute out the plate I currently have, if I’d go with the Sig adapter I’s Need the SHF buttplate too, at that point I’d probably just rather invest in the collapsible brace that’s almost out-anybody know if the matador set up is any good? |
Army Selected B&T  Happy April?
http://soldiersystems.net/2019/04/01/us-army-selects-bt-for-sub-compact-weapon/ |
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Army Selected B&T 
The Stribog is a quality bang for the buck, but B&T is definitely Gucci Gear. Hell, it's only money, right? Definitely not a bad choice, but of course I wish Jaro had got it. I hadn't received any updates on the B&T entry. Did they go with the APC9K or a new weapon? |
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The Stribog is a quality bang for the buck, but B&T is definitely Gucci Gear. Hell, it's only money, right? Definitely not a bad choice, but of course I wish Jaro had got it. I hadn't received any updates on the B&T entry. Did they go with the APC9K or a new weapon? Quoted:
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Army Selected B&T
The Stribog is a quality bang for the buck, but B&T is definitely Gucci Gear. Hell, it's only money, right? Definitely not a bad choice, but of course I wish Jaro had got it. I hadn't received any updates on the B&T entry. Did they go with the APC9K or a new weapon? |
Thank you. To be honest, I wouldn't mind if one found its way into my weapons locker. You can buy 3 Stribogs for the price, though, and not be any better at slinging lead downrange. There is the principle of diminishing returns on that investment, although no doubt it's a damned good weapon.
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Army Selected B&T Happy April?
http://soldiersystems.net/2019/04/01/us-army-selects-bt-for-sub-compact-weapon/ At least we the gun owners reap the benefits of Grand Power’s labor! |
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Tactical Life has a story up on the selection:
https://www.tactical-life.com/news/army-bt-apc9k-sub-compact-weapon/?fbclid=IwAR0G9AhN-OriaXr_aqsoRRIOOsKERTXqa2PRvLzb_kBToZbFAezcvYmgA2U 
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I'm conflicted. It would've been awesome had they won for many reasons, especially since it would've ignited the aftermarket accessory world. But it also would've spiked it's popularity and cease to be that mysterious gun at the range that garners double takes and the inevitable "cool lookin' gun mister...what is it??" 
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Thank you. To be honest, I wouldn't mind if one found its way into my weapons locker. You can buy 3 Stribogs for the price, though, and not be any better at slinging lead downrange. There is the principle of diminishing returns on that investment, although no doubt it's a damned good weapon.#1 Recip Charging Handle- on the pistol its a hazard. The only way I would consider leaving is being able to use a VFG. SBR paperwork has been filed.
#2 Sights- Completely fuckin useless. Maybe as a pistol not so much but using a brace on mine to see if it would run made them useless. #3 Lower Grip- Some of the first guns out have a metal lower that will accept different grips. I would gladly pay for one of those. #4 Stock Options- SHF is on the right track they just need to make ad adapter that will fit the APC/USC style stocks or another useful stock. I have a SHF end plate and Sig Mini folding stock ready to go when the paperwork clears but would prefer a USC or APC stock. I think at the $650 buy in and $125 for the Non Recipt CH along with another $250 budget for a good stock/adapter you are in bargain territory for a slick little weapon. I am at $2350 for my APC Pro and spent another $100 for the ACR adapter and will have to pony up another $150~ or so for the ACR stock. Flip side of that is a USC/APC stock is $150 and drops right in. Both need a VFG and some love on the safeties. 
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Does anyone know if Global Ordnance will provide conversion kit/delayed bb bcg for existing sp9a1s? or it is impossible because a3 is fundamentally different? Thanks! 
Their contact info is on the previous page about halfway down, along with a very nice summation of their intentions. Call, email, write, or hit them on Facebook. They have been pretty darned responsive. |
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Does anyone know if Global Ordnance will provide conversion kit/delayed bb bcg for existing sp9a1s? or it is impossible because a3 is fundamentally different? Thanks! Here's what I did: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Grand-Power-Stribog-A1-to-A3-Modification/48-497930/ |
| I have to say, I enjoyed reading this thread and read every page. It was fun to see the development of the Stribog based on input from members here. Not in the market for a PCC now, already have the Beretta CX4 that I'm happy with, but I'd be temped to pick up a Stribog in the future. I think it's a great gun, and I'd choose it over the CZ and the Ruger. Sorry the Stribog lost to B&T for the mil contract. |
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Probably going to buy a Stribog locally tomorrow. I definitely want to Form 1 this thing. What is the deal with 922? Is there an "official" parts count? With an AR trigger group and SIG stock am I good? Of the 20 parts ATF has listed, an SP9A1 SBR would have 13 (so replacement of 3 with US manufactured parts to meet the 'no more than 10 imported parts' stipulation) "IMPORTED" PARTS STRIBOG HAS/USES: (1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings (2) Bolts (3) Pistol grips (4) Magazine bodies (5) Followers (6) Floorplates (7) Barrels (8) Mounting blocks (trunions) (9) Butt stocks (10) Trigger housings (11) Triggers (12) Hammers (13) Disconnectors STRIBOG DOESN'T HAVE OR USE THE FOLLOWING: (14) Sears (15) Barrel extensions (16) Muzzle attachments (17) Bolt carriers (18) Operating rods (19) Gas pistons (20) Forearms, hand guards It seems logical that if you replace the trigger, hammer, and disconnector with AR components, you're covered. Anything more is gravy. Again, my interpretation only. Additionally, since the "pistol grip" is an integral part of the lower receiver, one could argue that it's not a separate item, thereby reducing the total number of imported parts to 12. However, one can also argue the Stribog's charging block counts as "bolt carrier". |
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Equally exciting news from Jaro over on the FB page:
"Note : ( Especially for You guys Who hope Stribog A3 will be cheap ) A3 delayed blowback will cost for minimum 200-250 USD more than A1 and will get ATF approval sometime in october 2019. First regular shipment of A3 cannot be in USA sooner than ond of November 2019 ( due to paperwork time )" I know what'll be in my stocking this year! 
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Jaro is looking at improving the mags. He is experimenting with metal feed lips and collar: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1232/56942529_10205018335134510_1582848770318532608_o-913176.jpg To quote Jaro: "In process." 
The A3 with a Glock mag lower would take a huge slice out of the Scorpion + AR9 + B&T Market. |
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The Glock version is at least a year out, but he was working on it. 
Thats wonderful news. I'll likely end up with 2 once they become available, absolutely 1. Delayed Blowback + Glock Mags + Real folding stock + reasonable price = he'll be selling more then he can make. |
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For you guys that are wondering what Jaro's been up to since SHOT, here's a pic of the shipment for Global Ordnance. 3 x 30rd. mags with each Stribog. More on the way:
(Yes, I see that there are more mags than that in the boxes that are open, but Global says 3 thirty-rounders are what will ship with each weapon) |
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Thank you. To be honest, I wouldn't mind if one found its way into my weapons locker. You can buy 3 Stribogs for the price, though, and not be any better at slinging lead downrange. There is the principle of diminishing returns on that investment, although no doubt it's a damned good weapon. |
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Quoted: I think the delayed blowback variant would have been a worthy consideration for the army being a full auto weapon that may be suppressed someday. |
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Does anyone here understand that glock mags were not designed for mags?? Look at the feed difference. Ridiculous. I prefer the easier loading and feeding reliability of dual-position magazines, myself. We'll see how his metal feed lip experiments come out. |
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Announcement From Global Ordnance / GRANDPOWER USA- Let's Talk New Stribog.
Global Ordnance (GO) promised all new pricing and an entirely new business model for GRANDPOWER distribution and has been working non-stop to deliver on that promise to US GRANDPOWER customers. New Stribog The next batch of the new Stribog SP9A1 with NON-RECIPROCATING charging handle has been APPROVED by both US and Slovak relevant agencies. Delivery of FIRST BATCH of the new Stribog should be in the next few days with a SECOND BATCH following a few days later. NEW Stribog pricing for 2019 effective immediately: MSRP on the NEW STRIBOG is $699. This represents a $170 discount off the prior MSRP. All new Stribog will be delivered with 3x 30rd magazines included and NON-RECIPROCATING charging handle. We will NOT be making these available to distributors to add additional markup. They will be sold through approved dealers or consumer-direct ONLY. This eliminates an entire level of markup to the consumer. Dealers, if you wish to provide GRANDPOWER to your customers, please reach out to [email protected] and include a copy of your valid FFL. We will announce availability of Stribog as soon as they are on premises and they will be made available on a first-come, first-served basis the moment they are inventoried. There will be no pre-orders and no waitlists. The first 2 batches represent more than 1,000 New Stribogs. All are built and first batch has ALREADY SHIPPED now that the approvals are in place. GO has committed to bring in more GRANDPOWER product in 2019 than has ever been imported by any distributor, in any year, ever. Estimated first batch Stribog delivery is the week of April 22, 2019 as is the first batch of spare Stribog magazines. We look forward to providing the best service and support possible for all GRANDPOWER fans in the USA! Tell everyone you know, Stribog is coming! Warmest regards, The Global Ordnance / GRANDPOWER USA Team. P.S. If you haven't seen the GRANDPOWER demo gun sale, they are here and as much as 50% off. https://globalordnance.com/deals/ 
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There's been a bunch of questions about the A3 and bottom line is it needs tech branch approval before it can be imported as due to it's operation it is regarded as a new model. This is a long process before we even get a determination and it's up to ATF whether it can be imported, not Global and not GrandPower. If it is approved, we'll import it, may not even get determination till end of the year and that determination can go either way. IF it is approved it will be somewhere on the order of 40%-50% more expensive than the New Stribog with non-reciprocating charging handle.
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Oh hell yes
Been waiting for this! Eta damn it, that demo k100 xtrim for $425 on GO's site is tempting... MSRP $700 SALE $429 You save $271.00! BEST DEAL EVER ON A Grand Power Grand Power K100, X-Trim, Semi-automatic, 9MM, 4.3" Barrel, Polymer Frame, Blue Finish, 15Rd, 2 Magazines GPK100XTRIM, UPC :8588005808026 
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Damn. It might be got time for one of these!
I know everyone wants to see a glock fed one. I would like to see it too. I dont even shoot glocks anymore. They collect dust in the back of the safe. I do like the longer stick mags and they pop up from time to time on sale for $25 ea. What I do think would be better was the colt SMG mags. Uzi mags can be modified to fit and the colt style mags are readily available. |
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There's been a bunch of questions about the A3 and bottom line is it needs tech branch approval before it can be imported as due to it's operation it is regarded as a new model. This is a long process before we even get a determination and it's up to ATF whether it can be imported, not Global and not GrandPower. If it is approved, we'll import it, may not even get determination till end of the year and that determination can go either way. IF it is approved it will be somewhere on the order of 40%-50% more expensive than the New Stribog with non-reciprocating charging handle. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/487666/globalsiteidentiy512x512-708288.png |
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Does anyone here understand that glock mags were not designed for mags?? Look at the feed difference. Ridiculous. B&T, Ruger, Kel Tec, CMMG, Kriss, MPA, and all of the AR9's have managed to figure out Glock mag technology, and they work great. |
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What is the thread pitch on the Stribog barrel? What muzzle devices will it take? And will the collapsible brace that was shown a couple of pages back be available with it? I am definitely interested in it You'll have to check with Safety Harbor Firearms as to availability of their parts. There is also a factory AR buffer adapter that we offer that one can then put a brace on from the likes of SB-tactical.com 
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