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Posted: 5/15/2024 2:58:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Redec]
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[#2]
Pilot’s name was Dr something
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[#3]
I imagine we'll know today if it was a musical celebrity. RIP
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[#4]
Georgia had an accident in Tennessee?!?
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[Last Edit: SkyFive]
[#6]
It was N47WT - Dr. Lucius Doucet III, a plastic surgeon in Baton Rouge. Enroute from Gonzales, La. to Louisville, Ky.
Attached File This occurred about 15 miles northwest of my location. We've had broken clouds almost all day, some light rain drizzle, some build ups (CB's) Everything looks normal with this flight right up til the last three minutes. It appears he/she was on autopilot and possibly lost control. Looks like a inflight breakup. Local news reports three people on board. |
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Damn I’m good
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[#9]
We were having a staff meeting a few weeks ago and one of our surgeons had never heard the term”Doctor Killer”. All the other physicians had. Even my wife says “NO!!!” When I mention getting a Bonanza. It’s down right uncanny how many Bonanza crashes have an MD involved.
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[#10]
Originally Posted By Curmudgeon762: We were having a staff meeting a few weeks ago and one of our surgeons had never heard the term”Doctor Killer”. All the other physicians had. Even my wife says “NO!!!” When I mention getting a Bonanza. It’s down right uncanny how many Bonanza crashes have an MD involved. View Quote Get a Debonair and have the IO-550 upgrade done (fuzzy memory says the IO-550 STC isn't available for the early Debonairs, so keep that in mind while shopping for Debonairs). If your wife says anything, point out that it is a Debonair, not a Bonanza. |
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[#11]
"Forked Tail Doctor Killer" is a thing, unfortunately.
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All skill is in vain when an Angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket.
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"Forked Tail Doctor Killer" is a thing, unfortunately.
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All skill is in vain when an Angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket.
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Originally Posted By Curmudgeon762: We were having a staff meeting a few weeks ago and one of our surgeons had never heard the term"Doctor Killer". All the other physicians had. Even my wife says "NO!!!" When I mention getting a Bonanza. It's down right uncanny how many Bonanza crashes have an MD involved. View Quote |
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What’s the difference between pancakes and a Mini-14? Pancakes hit the spot.-dvanblaricom
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Originally Posted By SkyFive: It was N47WT - Dr. Lucius Doucet III, a plastic surgeon in Baton Rouge. Enroute from Gonzales, La. to Louisville, Ky. https://photos.flightaware.com/photos/retriever/c79c4d68cd928359e101d20a8ce30a9b099e0d5f https://photos.flightaware.com/photos/retriever/978dc95154e52a81f4e2e6bfe3e98bcfbeef40fa https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/179151/Capture_JPG-3215257.JPG This occurred about 15 miles northwest of my location. We've had broken clouds almost all day, some light rain drizzle, some build ups (CB's) Everything looks normal with this flight right up til the last three minutes. It appears he/she was on autopilot and possibly lost control. Looks like a inflight breakup. Local news reports three people on board. View Quote every freaking time...its crazy |
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And don't forget that the SR22 in all it's variants is now the "geek killer"
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[Last Edit: JPN]
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Originally Posted By GDaawg: They should stick to being doctors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GDaawg: Originally Posted By Ender875: every freaking time...its crazy They should stick to being doctors. Or stick to flying something that is a better match for their experience and abilities. ETA: Local reports stated that the two passengers were the doctor's kids, who were about to graduate from college. |
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Juan finally chimed in.
N47WT V-35 Bonanza Inflight Structural failure |
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln
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Looks like the preliminary report is done.
https://www.brproud.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/80/2024/05/Report_ERA24FA217_194264_5_31_2024-5_00_04-PM.pdf During the climb to 9,000 ft msl, the pilot was instructed to fly a heading of 360° and to expect “On course in about fifteen miles.” The pilot was subsequently cleared direct to the EWO (New Hope, Kentucky) VORTAC, and the pilot acknowledged clearance. The airplane climbed to 9,500 ft msl, before the pilot was instructed to maintain 9,000 ft msl. The controller again asked the pilot to descend to 9,000 ft msl and provided the current altimeter setting; this was acknowledged by the pilot and was the last transmission received from the flight. Preliminary weather data showed that while established on the 360° track, the airplane entered an area with depicted moderate to heavy precipitation (figure 1). The airplane momentarily descended to 8,900 feet, and then made a right turn to the northeast for several miles before initiating a right descending turn to a track of 213°. The groundspeed increased from 180 kts to 214 kts and the vertical speed decreased to a 4,000 fpm descent. The controller made several attempts to contact the pilot, which went unanswered and radar contact was lost shortly thereafter. ADS-B data for the final moments of the flight showed that as the airplane entered a 5,000 fpm rate of descent, the groundspeed rapidly decreased to 43 kts and the vertical speed then reached a descent rate of more than 15,000 fpm. View Quote The wreckage was scattered along a fan like pattern that was oriented on a 262° magnetic heading and spread over a radius of more than ½-mile. The first pieces of wreckage recovered at the beginning of the path consisted of the separated elevator-rudders (ruddervators) that were found at an elevation of 909 ft. Both wings separated from the fuselage and were found about 2,000 ft further west, followed by the main fuselage fragments, seats, and instrument panel. The engine and propeller assembly were the final pieces discovered at the end of the wreckage path where it impacted a lake and was submerged in 8 ft of water. About 90% of the airplane was recovered. The left wing separated from the fuselage at the root and was largely intact. Fuel with the blue color and smell of aviation gasoline spilled out from the main fuel tank at the wing root. The left wingtip fuel tank was intact and contained no fuel. The top, forward wing mounting bolt fractured and pulled through the wing spar attach fitting. The aft two mounting bolts pulled through both wing spar attach fittings. The left wing main spar displayed signatures consistent with bending overload separation in the downward (negative) direction. The right wing was also from the fuselage. The right wingtip fuel tank separated from the wing and was split open. The wing forward spar attach point was intact and remained connected to the center section that was separated from the fuselage. The right wing rear spar was separated at the attach point. The rear center section was separated from the fuselage. The right rear upper attach bolt was intact and retained in the intact center section bathtub fitting. The right rear upper wing fitting was fractured and pulled from the wing structure. The rear lower attach bolt was intact and retained in the rear lower wing fitting. The right wing contained a weather radar pod and hardware that was separated during the impact. The radar’s cockpit display was not installed and the system’s the circuit breakers were in a tripped/deactivated position. The stabilator spars exhibited symmetrical deformation where the spars were bent aft and twisted leading edge down. The fracture surfaces had slant angles. The right stabilizer was separated and had more than half of the right ruddervator attached. The ruddervator trailing edge was separated and the skins were splayed open. Only a portion of the left inboard ruddervator was recovered. The deformation of the stabilizer spars on both sides exhibited features consistent with downward failure. View Quote The pilot had purchased the airplane in December 2023. A review of his pilot log revealed that he had accumulated 366 total hours of flight experience and had accumulated 14 hours in the accident airplane make model. View Quote If I'm following correctly, - flew into rain - got off course and the nose down - tailfeathers let go first, with the bends indicating an overload in the direction of trying to pull the nose up - wings then let go, with at least some of the damage indicating negative g loading. |
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[#21]
I know we've all heard it, the 3 most dangerous things at an airport:
1. A doctor in a Bonanza. 2. Two check pilots riding together. 3. A stewardess with a chipped tooth. |
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He only had 14 hours in the Bonanza?!
How much of it was in instrument conditions? This was a low-time pilot who most likely had spatial disorientation. I would never had flown into those conditions with such little time in that aircraft, unless all 14 hours were with a CFII in instrument conditions. It's all a big game until things get serious, and then it's too late. |
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[Last Edit: BillofRights]
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Originally Posted By JPN: Or stick to flying something that is a better match for their experience and abilities. ETA: Local reports stated that the two passengers were the doctor's kids, who were about to graduate from college. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By GDaawg: Originally Posted By Ender875: every freaking time...its crazy They should stick to being doctors. Or stick to flying something that is a better match for their experience and abilities. ETA: Local reports stated that the two passengers were the doctor's kids, who were about to graduate from college. What a damned shame. As men, we should have the right to risk our lives in any reasonable manner we deem worthy. But that Dr. shouldn’t have risked his kids like that. It’s the equivalent of a pilot performing cosmetic surgery on his own children. Sure, things might turn out OK, but the risk isn’t worth the reward. |
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GD- "It's kind of like wading through through slimy lake bed with your feet to find clams below the surface".
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[Last Edit: JPN]
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Originally Posted By jmt1991: He only had 14 hours in the Bonanza?! How much of it was in instrument conditions? This was a low-time pilot who most likely had spatial disorientation. I would never had flown into those conditions with such little time in that aircraft, unless all 14 hours were with a CFII in instrument conditions. It's all a big game until things get serious, and then it's too late. View Quote One of the youtube videos on this incident had a statement that the majority of the flights he had made in the Bonanza since buying it seemed to be local flights. |
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Originally Posted By JPN: One of the youtube videos on this incident had a statement that the majority of the flights he had made in the Bonanza since buying it seemed to be local flights. View Quote That's a great way to get acquainted with the aircraft, but he did nothing to prepare for instrument conditions. I don't have an instrument rating, but I've grabbed an instructor so we could practice accidental flight into instrument conditions, just in case it ever happened. Some people overestimate their skills, and it never ends up well. Maybe someone will learn from this accident. |
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The pilot was almost 63 years old. Not terribly old, but not terribly young, either. Just playing devil's advocate, but is it not within the realm of possibility that this was due to a medical event? Perhaps the stress of dealing with the weather may have caused some sort of cardiovascular event or perhaps it was just coincidental. The chart in the prelim. demonstrates some pretty good navigation/deviation around heavier precip. before everything went sideways.
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Originally Posted By aa777888-2: The pilot was almost 63 years old. Not terribly old, but not terribly young, either. Just playing devil's advocate, but is it not within the realm of possibility that this was due to a medical event? Perhaps the stress of dealing with the weather may have caused some sort of cardiovascular event or perhaps it was just coincidental. The chart in the prelim. demonstrates some pretty good navigation/deviation around heavier precip. before everything went sideways. View Quote A medical emergency is a possibility. From the preliminary report, the plane went into a descending right turn at some point after entering the area of moderate to heavy rain, accelerating to a speed above redline and the descent rate hitting 4,000 fpm, then 5,000 fpm before radar contact was lost. Going above Vne resulted in structural failure of the airplane in flight. What led to the plane being in that descending right turn is the missing puzzle piece in this incident. Medical emergency? Pilot disorientation after entering the rain? Turbulence? Mechanical or electrical failure of some sort? The pilot's experience level would seem to be a likely contributing factor to the incident in most of the possible explanations. |
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