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Posted: 9/11/2024 1:21:09 PM EDT
Looking at Smith 686 no dash I think it's a 4 inch barrel in good shape.they are asking  750.00 fo or no
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:31:41 PM EDT
[#1]
I had one, JUNK!  The 19 is S&W's 357mag opus, even better than the 27, had one of them also.  And because you're a newb, YES, 4"bbl is the ONLY 357mag revolver!😉
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:34:59 PM EDT
[#2]
I just sold one a month ago, it went for $800 in a week.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:36:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Good price in my local
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:37:54 PM EDT
[#4]
About average.  The L frame is a bit of an odd one.  Fits between the K and the N.  Some say it's too big, others too small. some say just right.  I own way more K frames, and slightly more N frames than the L.  

If you're going to shoot a lot of magnums, pick the L over the K.  Not many magnums, I lean to the K, it's just a handier size in my book.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:40:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher] [#5]
Originally Posted By longpole1234:
Looking at Smith 686 no dash I think it's a 4 inch barrel in good shape.they are asking  750.00 fo or no
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Probably a reasonable price. Certainly not outrageously overpriced. Condition is everything, though.

The no-dash thing doesn't add any value. It may even detract from value if the gun has not undergone the modification related to a recall on no-dash and dash-1 variants. If the revolver you're looking at has been recall "fixed" it will have an "M" stamped by the model number in the crane area. Basically, the recall involved installing a new hammer bushing and replacing the hammer nose. There's a good chance you could shoot an unmodified revolver forever and never have any issues, but it might come up if you ever decide to resell it.

   686 (no dash), 1981 Introduction model
   686-1, 1986 radius stud package, floating hand
   686-2, 1987 changed hammer nose, bushing and associated parts
   686-3, 1988 new yoke retention system
   686-4, 1993 change rear sight leaf, drill and tap frame, change extractor, Hogue grips
   686-5, 1997 change frame design to eliminate cylinder stop stud, eliminate serrated tangs, MIM hammer and trigger, change internal lock.
   686-6, 2001 internal lock
   686-7, 2003 Performance Center .38 Super, 6-Shot unfluted cylinder, 4" barrel, Stainless Steel, 250 Made
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:40:46 PM EDT
[#6]
A little high for me locally, but not by much.    Last one I looked at was $680.  

I never really warmed up to the L frames, mainly because I've never been a fan of full underlugs on barrels.  Fine for a duty gun, but I'm going to carry a "K" frame for everyday use.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:44:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tallis:
I had one, JUNK!  The 19 is S&W's 357mag opus, even better than the 27, had one of them also.  And because you're a newb, YES, 4"bbl is the ONLY 357mag revolver!😉
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Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:46:14 PM EDT
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OK thanks for the info I will probably pass on it.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:47:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher:


Probably a reasonable price. Certainly not outrageously overpriced. Condition is everything, though.

The no-dash thing doesn't add any value. It may even detract from value if the gun has not undergone the modification related to a recall on no-dash and dash-1 variants. If the revolver you're looking at has been recall "fixed" it will have an "M" stamped by the model number in the crane area. Basically, the recall involved installing a new hammer bushing and replacing the hammer nose. There's a good chance you could shoot an unmodified revolver forever and never have any issues, but it might come up if you ever decide to resell it.

   686 (no dash), 1981 Introduction model
   686-1, 1986 radius stud package, floating hand
   686-2, 1987 changed hammer nose, bushing and associated parts
   686-3, 1988 new yoke retention system
   686-4, 1993 change rear sight leaf, drill and tap frame, change extractor, Hogue grips
   686-5, 1997 change frame design to eliminate cylinder stop stud, eliminate serrated tangs, MIM hammer and trigger, change internal lock.
   686-6, 2001 internal lock
   686-7, 2003 Performance Center .38 Super, 6-Shot unfluted cylinder, 4" barrel, Stainless Steel, 250 Made
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Where do the 686+, 7 shot models fit into the dash list?
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:48:13 PM EDT
[#10]
I came here to say $650-$750, depending on condition.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 1:58:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By akrado:
Where do the 686+, 7 shot models fit into the dash list?
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According to the Encyclopedia, the 686+ was produced in -4, -5, and -6 variations. IIRC, the plus model was introduced around 1996, which would have been after all the early dash changes.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 2:17:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Been shooting a "no dash" since I was a junior in HS. I am now drawing Social Security. Junk you say. Joke you are.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 2:25:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tallis:
I had one, JUNK!  The 19 is S&W's 357mag opus, even better than the 27, had one of them also.  And because you're a newb, YES, 4"bbl is the ONLY 357mag revolver!😉
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You're insane if you think the pre-lock 686 is junk. I've been carrying mine since 1988.

Edit: At the time my Duty Weapon was a Model 66. I much preferred the 686, due to the weight of the underlug for recoil control.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 2:27:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/11/2024 2:30:47 PM EDT
[#15]
FPDNNI
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 2:31:41 PM EDT
[#16]
If it helps, I wouldn't sell my no dash for $750. It'd take another $500 for me to even consider saying yes.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 8:36:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: double_trouble_2003] [#17]
I have 3, (one is a 681). IMHO, they are about as close to perfection as a wheel gun can be.  
The factory triggers are great and the heavier frame helps manage the recoil.
And they look sexy!
$800 seems fair.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 8:40:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Reb52:
Been shooting a "no dash" since I was a junior in HS. I am now drawing Social Security. Junk you say. Joke you are.
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Lol. Oof.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 8:43:32 PM EDT
[#19]
Not great, not terrible.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 8:47:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By longpole1234:
OK thanks for the info I will probably pass on it.
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Too bad. I would have snatched it up for that price.  Most go 800 or above here.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 8:49:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SteveOak] [#21]
If if it is decent shape it is a good deal.

A few months ago I paid $800 for a 686 no dash in very good shape.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 8:52:48 PM EDT
[#22]
Don’t pass on it. I’ve shot a fair amount of underwood through my no dash no M without issue.

I’ve read the issue was federal primers, but never found more details.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 9:01:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher:
686-5, 1997 eliminate serrated tangs
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What was serrated tangs?
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 9:10:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brandyspaw] [#24]
I currently still have three Smith M686's in 2 1/2," 4" and 6" barrels.  Two of them I've had since they came out in the early eighties while the snubbie is a more recent purchase..
I have several older pre lock Smiths (of all models) and I continue to watch the market closely. In my area, the price that was mentioned is the going rate with the prices even higher if
it has the original box with tools/paperwork. The revolver market just seems to be getting pricier but then what isn't these days.


BTW-The L frames are a long way from "junk." I've found that the newer Smiths (of all models) are the ones of questionable quality. All older pre-lock Smiths with the forged parts
are good to to go regardless of the model.

Link Posted: 9/11/2024 9:15:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tallis:
I had one, JUNK!  The 19 is S&W's 357mag opus, even better than the 27, had one of them also.  And because you're a newb, YES, 4"bbl is the ONLY 357mag revolver!😉
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WTF is wrong with you
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 9:20:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SiVisPacem] [#26]
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Originally Posted By tallis:
I had one, JUNK!  The 19 is S&W's 357mag opus, even better than the 27, had one of them also.  And because you're a newb, YES, 4"bbl is the ONLY 357mag revolver!😉
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I'm guessing you were dropped on your head quite a bit as a child. Your post is full of ignorance.

The 19 is great, but the 686 is better, especially for a duty gun or to feed a steady diet of .357 Mag. As for 4" being the only size, you obviously haven't handled a 3" round butt 65, which is one of the best carry revolvers ever made.

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Link Posted: 9/11/2024 9:29:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tallis:
I had one, JUNK!  The 19 is S&W's 357mag opus, even better than the 27, had one of them also.  And because you're a newb, YES, 4"bbl is the ONLY 357mag revolver!😉
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I have a 4" 686 no dash. Damn good pistol
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 9:30:30 PM EDT
[#28]
Useful information.  Inspecting a S&W revolver:

https://youtu.be/95xjizDOrcc?si=BRE0t-9O8J2Hukl9
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 9:32:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher:


According to the Encyclopedia, the 686+ was produced in -4, -5, and -6 variations. IIRC, the plus model was introduced around 1996, which would have been after all the early dash changes.
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher:
Originally Posted By akrado:
Where do the 686+, 7 shot models fit into the dash list?


According to the Encyclopedia, the 686+ was produced in -4, -5, and -6 variations. IIRC, the plus model was introduced around 1996, which would have been after all the early dash changes.


The plus models were a little wierd as a handful were made without locks. I have a -5+ without a Hillary hole.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 9:39:55 PM EDT
[#30]
I've had a 4" 586 (Blue version) no dash for decades and it's been shot heavily with top end loads.
I know of several others that have done the same
If your looking for an L-frame, and it's solid, that's a fair price.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:30:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Digger440:


The plus models were a little wierd as a handful were made without locks. I have a -5+ without a Hillary hole.
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The lock started with the 686-6 designation. To find ANY -5 with a lock would definitely be weird. But with S&W, anything is possible.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:43:59 AM EDT
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M686 no dash 6", bought new in 1984.  My first gun.
3"  is a +, 7 shot
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:53:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tallis:
I had one, JUNK!  The 19 is S&W's 357mag opus, even better than the 27, had one of them also.  And because you're a newb, YES, 4"bbl is the ONLY 357mag revolver!
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lol, yeah ok.  

Op, that's a good price in my area, I'd snag it if I was looking for one. Great guns.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:54:41 AM EDT
[#34]
I had one in blued 4".   Great piece.   I traded it off or sold for some dumb reason years ago.    750 seems like an ok price for one in excellent shape.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 6:59:42 AM EDT
[#35]
OP- buy it!

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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 7:39:43 AM EDT
[#36]
FO 586 & 686 for inspiration
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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 8:46:38 AM EDT
[#37]
You guys talked me into it I'm just going to put it on layaway for now so it doesn't get away
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 8:55:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By longpole1234:
You guys talked me into it I'm just going to put it on layaway for now so it doesn't get away
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Good choice.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 10:48:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: longpole1234] [#39]
I would say normal wear for a 40 year old firearm
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that pic does not do it justice
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:01:41 AM EDT
[#40]
Little late.. But I just saw a 686 new for somewhere around 850 from rural king... I have a 586 and a 686 from 1987 and 88.. Those guns are an absolute blast to shoot.. accurate and damn near zero recoil, even with hot 357 loads. the gun is very well balanced. Hell Id buy a 3rd if I found one for a decent price
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:04:37 AM EDT
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No dash, does it fall in the recall range and is the frame [I think] marked that it was done? I think it involved the hammer nose.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:05:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 50cal:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89/xeYzahc-1780882.jpg

I have a 4" 686 no dash. Damn good pistol
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 Pretty sure that poster was trolling. I've been shooting my 4" police trade no-dash for over 25 years. It's never failed...great gun, and the most accurate pistol in my safe.

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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:10:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Polska_Kielbasa] [#43]
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Originally Posted By Reb52:
Been shooting a "no dash" since I was a junior in HS. I am now drawing Social Security. Junk you say. Joke you are.
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I read that in Yoda's voice...

I love my -4 686+ w/ a 4" barrel. It's my absolute favorite handgun to shoot. I've asked my wife to bury it with me when I die.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:19:47 AM EDT
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I concur. Calling someone else a newb with your date and post count, priceless.


The S&W is an excellent gun and $750, depending on the shape, is not a bad deal.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:24:30 AM EDT
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I have a couple.

An orange-ramp "dash-5" that I bought about 10 years ago for $275 at a gun store that had just gotten a crate of "security" guns.
A little rough (scratches). Not much wear on the parts that mattered. Orange ramp isn't my favorite feature on Smith and Wesson revolvers. But for the price, I'll let it slide.
I named it "Stinkbutt" because it came with squishy Hogue grips that were impregnated with Eau-de-Deu-da-Dei cologne worn by the fellow who previously carried it. I tried bleach and vinegar and every sort of soap to get the smell out. Even buried those grips in the yard for a month. Still reeking.
So I threw a set of Pachmyr's on it.

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I previously owned a 6-inch No-Dash. Foolishly sold it after acquiring Stinkbutt because I thought,.... well, I don't know what I thought.
I didn't care for the orange-insert front sight. The orange plastic was just enough caddywampus in the dovetail that it bugged me. Irrational.
The serial number of that gun was AFR0428. Something about that bugged me too. Irrational.

Anyhow, another well-kept 6-inch No-Dash came available on another board for $700.
Has a plain black "patridge" sight. I really like that.
Its mine now.
I need to take a better picture.

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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:38:36 AM EDT
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they aren't making any more of them.

Prices will only go up on them, certainly not down.

I have 2 of them, and I don't even like revolvers. One (6" .357) bought on FB marketplace for like $500 back in 2013 and the other was payment for selling off a collection of guns (6" .44 mag).
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 11:51:33 AM EDT
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My favorite 686 no dash.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 4:31:25 PM EDT
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Reasonable price.
Link Posted: 9/12/2024 5:43:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rock71] [#49]
I used a 686 to earn my PPC Distinguished Revolver badge. It’ll shoot 158 SWC nearly as well as my open gun will shoot 148 HBWC.  

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Link Posted: 9/12/2024 7:26:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By longpole1234:
I would say normal wear for a 40 year old firearm
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/185680/1000000236_jpg-3320183.JPG
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I hope you like those grips, because if you look at prices for the original factory wood you'll feel lile you got kicked in the nuts.

Ignoring the grips, great price for the condition. Enjoy it.
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