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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:46:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41:
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:52:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Please put Bezos on it. To be fair, Bezos did ride his own rocket in to space. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:53:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Oh boy, do you have good timing in asking that question. Long and lavishly detailed answer.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUgekRWpKjYShort answer, no. Not even if Korolev survived into the 1980s was the N-1 ever going to work. Sea Dragon might have worked. But I doubt it and it would take some major freaky fear meltdown to get enough of the American public to agree to let a NERVA-Shuttle to fly. the giant single engine on sea dragon would have never worked. there is no way they would have sorted combustion instability on that. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:58:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: To be fair, Bezos did ride his own rocket in to Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By atavistic: Please put Bezos on it. To be fair, Bezos did ride his own rocket in to fify |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:14:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:51:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:28:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: the giant single engine on sea dragon would have never worked. there is no way they would have sorted combustion instability on that. It’s really a bunch of smaller engines. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:56:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Not quite as true as it used to be now that BO's BE-4 engines lifted ULA's Vulcan to orbit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By WesJanson: That's a tall order for a company that's never managed to put so much as a coffee cup into orbit. Not quite as true as it used to be now that BO's BE-4 engines lifted ULA's Vulcan to orbit. While true, that's just not the same standard as "built and successfully launched rocket that achieved stable orbit". Otherwise by that standard, Fastenal is a successful launch provider. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:27:17 PM EDT
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This is a Spacex Starship thread, can we leave fuckwad commie, general all around asshole, F Jeff Bezos and his shitty "rockets" out of the thread ? Thanks! [lurk] |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:33:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: It’s really a bunch of smaller engines. was it? The first stage was to be powered by a single 36,000,000 kgf (350 MN; 79,000,000 lbf) thrust engine burning RP-1 and LOX (liquid oxygen). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Dragon_ |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:15:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:23:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2024 4:26:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: ..? Why don’t you start a Blue Origin thread? Falcon 9 has its own thread. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 6:58:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: Why don’t you start a Blue Origin thread? Falcon 9 has its own thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: Originally Posted By Dagger41: Why are you so butt hurt ? There have been comparisons to just about every rocket made in this thread since it started, including the Russian N1. Competition used to be healthy and encouraged in this country. What are you so worried about ? Why don’t you start a Blue Origin thread? Falcon 9 has its own thread. Agreed. I mean the thread title is pretty clear. Go away with commie Bezos shit. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 8:41:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2024 8:51:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2024 8:54:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: A technicality yes. Almost like claiming a flight on a 727 ZERO G is the same as astronauts in space. Nowhere near as dangerous or as fast as the guys going into orbit in space. No one is claiming parabolic flights is the same as going in to space. You have to draw a line somewhere, and the Karman line is it. Your retarded logic is saying the ISS isn't in space because there is still trace atmosphere dragging on it. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:03:59 PM EDT
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Have they figured out why starship was unable to maintain controlled attitude during re-entry? Seems like more than a 'fuel slosh, we'll just change system inertia at stage separation' kind of problem. Seems more like they need much greater rcs and maybe rethinking their lifting body geometry / design.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:16:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnh57: Have they figured out why starship was unable to maintain controlled attitude during re-entry? Seems like more than a 'fuel slosh, we'll just change system inertia at stage separation' kind of problem. Seems more like they need much greater rcs and maybe rethinking their lifting body geometry / design. I think the current theory is a reaction jet valve stuck open and used up all the fuel. Maybe? 
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:03:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:55:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: NYD. "The crew included Jeff Bezos, Mark Bezos, Wally Funk and Oliver Daemen, who all officially became astronauts when they passed the Kármán Line, the internationally recognized boundary of space." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By Chokey: fify NYD. "The crew included Jeff Bezos, Mark Bezos, Wally Funk and Oliver Daemen, who all officially became astronauts when they passed the Kármán Line, the internationally recognized boundary of space." Sure sure |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 12:14:07 AM EDT
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I think , maybe , that we all can agree that rockets in general are freaking bad-ass . IMO , of course .
 to everyone that follows this thread . It has been sofa king awesome so far and I hope it continues on for many more years ! Attached File |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 12:35:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4q2: I think , maybe , that we all can agree that rockets in general are freaking bad-ass . IMO , of course . to everyone that follows this thread . It has been sofa king awesome so far and I hope it continues on for many more years !/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/toast_gif-994.gifPretty much everything you said. This thread is one of my favorites and while there have been some slight detours over the YEARS it's been going, those have frequently led to some worthwhile discussion and the thread has always managed to get back on topic chatting about a shiny piece of amazing engineering. |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 7:11:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: Why don't you start a Blue Origin thread? Falcon 9 has its own thread. On topic: are we still expecting the next IFT to take place in April? The wife and I are discussing making the trip down from Ohio. |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 7:21:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naffenea: No one is claiming parabolic flights is the same as going in to space. You have to draw a line somewhere, and the Karman line is it. Your retarded logic is saying the ISS isn't in space because there is still trace atmosphere dragging on it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naffenea: Originally Posted By SuperHeavy: A technicality yes. Almost like claiming a flight on a 727 ZERO G is the same as astronauts in space. Nowhere near as dangerous or as fast as the guys going into orbit in space. No one is claiming parabolic flights is the same as going in to space. You have to draw a line somewhere, and the Karman line is it. Your retarded logic is saying the ISS isn't in space because there is still trace atmosphere dragging on it. So comparing going straight up and down to achieving orbital velocity is closer? Lol. The Blue Origins dildo is a one trick pony, it's cool.... but useless. To even bring that up in the discussion of something with twice the thrust of a saturn V is  Elon isn't worth the risk, but I'd be confident in a F9 putting him into orbit safely. Do you think Bezos would strap himself into the New Glenn right now? |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 7:22:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnh57: Have they figured out why starship was unable to maintain controlled attitude during re-entry? Seems like more than a 'fuel slosh, we'll just change system inertia at stage separation' kind of problem. Seems more like they need much greater rcs and maybe rethinking their lifting body geometry / design. This reminds me of the early stage F9 landing attempts. They were running out of hydraulic fuel, RCS fuel, and all kinds of other seemingly simple things. |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 7:26:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DK-Prof]
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Posted: 4/4/2024 9:45:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kill-9: Official Blue Origin Thread. It would be nice to see Blue Origin discussion taking place there. On topic: are we still expecting the next IFT to take place in April? The wife and I are discussing making the trip down from Ohio. Awesome! That needed doing. |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 11:13:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/4/2024 2:53:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/4/2024 2:57:49 PM EDT
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I'm feelin' 4/20.
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Posted: 4/4/2024 3:27:39 PM EDT
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Raptor-branded engine cozies... Nice.
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Posted: 4/4/2024 3:38:40 PM EDT
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Everything looks beautiful.
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Posted: 4/4/2024 3:42:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKV2iB2bcAAaZ6O?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKV2jTVbEAAUiMB?format=jpg&name=large |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 4:13:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/4/2024 4:27:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKV2iB2bcAAaZ6O?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKV2jTVbEAAUiMB?format=jpg&name=large Victim 4 
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Posted: 4/4/2024 8:05:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/4/2024 9:22:43 PM EDT
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Please.take all.of the Blue Origin (and Bezos) discussions and updates to the Blue Origin thread linked above. This is not the appropriate thread for it.
Please and thank you. 
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Posted: 4/4/2024 9:28:35 PM EDT
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What is the purpose of those "fins" on the bottom third of the booster?
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Posted: 4/4/2024 9:45:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: vmpglenn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: What is the purpose of those "fins" on the bottom third of the booster? Aero covers for the Composite Overwrapped Pressure Vessels (COPVs) that hold inert gases used to pressurize the propellant tanks. |
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Posted: 4/4/2024 10:44:58 PM EDT
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SpaceX's cinematic as fuck highlight reel.
 Starship | Third Flight Test Eat your heart out Zach Snyder. 
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Posted: 4/4/2024 11:22:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: Aero covers for the Composite Overwrapped Pressure Vessels (COPVs) that hold inert gases used to pressurize the propellant tanks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: What is the purpose of those "fins" on the bottom third of the booster? Aero covers for the Composite Overwrapped Pressure Vessels (COPVs) that hold inert gases used to pressurize the propellant tanks. |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 12:40:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKUsTAHbIAA3-Nz?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKUybzWa4AAZWI1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Those photos would give Ray Bradbury the “big O”. Every single iteration gets smoother and sexier. 
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Posted: 4/5/2024 5:36:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/5/2024 7:46:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 4/5/2024 8:13:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 4/5/2024 8:28:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: This reminds me of the early stage F9 landing attempts. They were running out of hydraulic fuel, RCS fuel, and all kinds of other seemingly simple things. |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 8:31:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: SpaceX's cinematic as fuck highlight reel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApMrILhTulIEat your heart out Zach Snyder. Awesome |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 10:41:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/5/2024 2:22:44 PM EDT
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