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4/25/2025 8:59:56 AM EDT
We adopted a couple of kitties about 18 months ago. Sweet little black cats from the local shelter. They were spayed by the shelter prior to adoption.

One of the cats every 3 months or so acts like she is in heat… she paces, rubs and will not shut up!!!!

Would this be one of the cases where the vet missed some of the bits and they regrew? What would I ask the vet about? Do you take them in while the kitty is nuts or do you wait for her to calm down?

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4/25/2025 10:17:00 AM EDT
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@digitalebola  

The best thing you can do is discuss your concerns with your veterinarian.  There is always the possibility that there is an ovarian remnant (a portion of the ovary remaining after the spay) that is causing some heat like symptoms due to hormonal fluctuation.  To know for sure, you would have to consider some hormonal testing or an abdominal surgery to see if an ovarian remnant can be identified so there will be some costs involved if you choose to proceed.  Unfortunately these do happen and they happen more with low cost/high volume surgeries in shelters, etc.
"she's not going to think that you've embarked on a secret life of crime... sketchy underworld figures, like gang members, cartel members, INTERPOL fugitives, and the lizard people.
And it's that last part as to why we need a vet. "L_JE"
4/25/2025 10:49:48 AM EDT
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Had a veterinarian trick a family member into consenting for emergent cesarean (despite the dog not having shown any signs of being ill). This vet left half the litter of puppies retained inside the dog's other uterine horn when he closed her.

...so not out of the realm of being possible.
4/25/2025 11:19:35 AM EDT
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Had a veterinarian trick a family member into consenting for emergent cesarean (despite the dog not having shown any signs of being ill). This vet left half the litter of puppies retained inside the dog's other uterine horn when he closed her.

...so not out of the realm of being possible.
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Trick?  What's the trick?  To me there is likely more to that story/situation but it doesn't really pertain to the OP's question.
"she's not going to think that you've embarked on a secret life of crime... sketchy underworld figures, like gang members, cartel members, INTERPOL fugitives, and the lizard people.
And it's that last part as to why we need a vet. "L_JE"
4/25/2025 12:02:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AaronR:
Had a veterinarian trick a family member into consenting for emergent cesarean (despite the dog not having shown any signs of being ill). This vet left half the litter of puppies retained inside the dog's other uterine horn when he closed her.

...so not out of the realm of being possible.
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Dang!!! I would be pissed!!
4/25/2025 12:05:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MegaTarsal:
@digitalebola  

The best thing you can do is discuss your concerns with your veterinarian.  There is always the possibility that there is an ovarian remnant (a portion of the ovary remaining after the spay) that is causing some heat like symptoms due to hormonal fluctuation.  To know for sure, you would have to consider some hormonal testing or an abdominal surgery to see if an ovarian remnant can be identified so there will be some costs involved if you choose to proceed.  Unfortunately these do happen and they happen more with low cost/high volume surgeries in shelters, etc.
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Thanks! I think we will have to bite the bullet and take her in for a discussion. Dang cat was meowing all last night?
4/25/2025 12:06:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MegaTarsal:
@digitalebola  

The best thing you can do is discuss your concerns with your veterinarian.  There is always the possibility that there is an ovarian remnant (a portion of the ovary remaining after the spay) that is causing some heat like symptoms due to hormonal fluctuation.  To know for sure, you would have to consider some hormonal testing or an abdominal surgery to see if an ovarian remnant can be identified so there will be some costs involved if you choose to proceed.  Unfortunately these do happen and they happen more with low cost/high volume surgeries in shelters, etc.
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Thanks! I think we will have to bite the bullet and take her in for a discussion. Dang cat was meowing all last night?
4/25/2025 2:03:18 PM EDT
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Trick?  What's the trick?  To me there is likely more to that story/situation but it doesn't really pertain to the OP's question.
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Originally Posted By AaronR:
Had a veterinarian trick a family member into consenting for emergent cesarean (despite the dog not having shown any signs of being ill). This vet left half the litter of puppies retained inside the dog's other uterine horn when he closed her.

...so not out of the realm of being possible.



Trick?  What's the trick?  To me there is likely more to that story/situation but it doesn't really pertain to the OP's question.

It absolutely pertains. While ovarian remnant syndrome is by far the most likely explanation, and common, there is still remote possibility the cat is still fully intact and was never actually fixed. Spaying scams are a thing.

I doubt it's standard of care (and not tantamount to trickery) to diagnose chorioamnionitis by performing digital exams on healthy pregnant dog vulvas while they are still out in the waiting area and then having owners sniff (expected) odor on the examiner's finger tip.

Professional licenses and board certifications don't 100% confer and guarantee competence, mental fitness, or good faith.
4/25/2025 2:59:31 PM EDT
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Thanks! I think we will have to bite the bullet and take her in for a discussion. Dang cat was meowing all last night?
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Originally Posted By digitalebola:
Originally Posted By MegaTarsal:
@digitalebola  

The best thing you can do is discuss your concerns with your veterinarian.  There is always the possibility that there is an ovarian remnant (a portion of the ovary remaining after the spay) that is causing some heat like symptoms due to hormonal fluctuation.  To know for sure, you would have to consider some hormonal testing or an abdominal surgery to see if an ovarian remnant can be identified so there will be some costs involved if you choose to proceed.  Unfortunately these do happen and they happen more with low cost/high volume surgeries in shelters, etc.



Thanks! I think we will have to bite the bullet and take her in for a discussion. Dang cat was meowing all last night?

Inquire about having any fees waived including the visit, bloodwork, imaging, and surgery if returning to the same clinic where it was performed. Unlikely they will be willing, but it's worth a shot to ask. It could save you some money if they are willing to bend and be accountable about it.

If they insist it's "impossible" for the kitty to be going into heat after being spayed, interpret it as a red flag and take the kitty to another clinic.

4/25/2025 3:07:09 PM EDT
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Had it happen with one of our cats years ago.  Took her to the family vet for spay and 3 months later she came into heat again.  Took her back to the vet and pitched a bitch.  They opened her back up and found they missed a supposedly "deformed ovary" which they tried to claim was not their fault.  They ended up eating the second surgery due to their screw up.  If it had been one of the bargain parking lot spay services I suspect the matter would have ended up in small claims court.
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4/26/2025 2:30:08 PM EDT
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Just a quick follow up…

I took her into the vet today to discuss options. He said it can happen where some of the ovary tissue is left behind during assembly line surgery (like what the shelter took these babies to). He said because the tissue could be so small it can be difficult to identify and that we would be shooting in the dark until the cat was on the table with half her guts out.

The best part was that he recommended me and the wife drink a bit more when she gets into her heat cycle and wait it out 😂😂

Granted this is an old school, small town country vet that we took our pets to in the 1980s! Sounds like if we opt for surgery it could be a bit risky or expensive (probably both).

over the past 18 months she has only been this bad two or three times…. We are gonna wait til we cant take it anymore (and have another drink!)
4/26/2025 3:22:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By digitalebola:
Just a quick follow up…

I took her into the vet today to discuss options. He said it can happen where some of the ovary tissue is left behind during assembly line surgery (like what the shelter took these babies to). He said because the tissue could be so small it can be difficult to identify and that we would be shooting in the dark until the cat was on the table with half her guts out.

The best part was that he recommended me and the wife drink a bit more when she gets into her heat cycle and wait it out 😂😂

Granted this is an old school, small town country vet that we took our pets to in the 1980s! Sounds like if we opt for surgery it could be a bit risky or expensive (probably both).

over the past 18 months she has only been this bad two or three times…. We are gonna wait til we cant take it anymore (and have another drink!)
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I like the way your vet thinks...

If not worried about her becoming pregnant, then its reasonable and good reason to enjoy extra drink(s). Wouldn't be the first time little ones resulted with drinks involved.

If I was worried about the remote chance of her still being anatomically intact and able to reproduce, ultrasound would probably be the easiest and cheapest way to confirm whether there is still in intact uterus and ovaries; that is assuming the Vet has that tool and is proficient with it.
4/26/2025 3:50:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AaronR:

I like the way your vet thinks...

If not worried about her becoming pregnant, then its reasonable and good reason to enjoy extra drink(s). Wouldn't be the first time little ones resulted with drinks involved.

If I was worried about the remote chance of her still being anatomically intact and able to reproduce, ultrasound would probably be the easiest and cheapest way to confirm whether there is still in intact uterus and ovaries; that is assuming the Vet has that tool and is proficient with it.
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Thanks! Yeah… I lived in Atlanta for almost 30 years… It is tough getting readjusted to life in the slow lane. Vet with Ultrasound is probably an hour away.  These are indoor kitties only so not to worried about pregnancy… I just wish she would shut up about it! Now I know how my wife feels putting up with me when I “got to have it!”
4/26/2025 6:35:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By digitalebola:



Thanks! Yeah… I lived in Atlanta for almost 30 years… It is tough getting readjusted to life in the slow lane. Vet with Ultrasound is probably an hour away.  These are indoor kitties only so not to worried about pregnancy… I just wish she would shut up about it! Now I know how my wife feels putting up with me when I “got to have it!”
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LOL

She must be good lady!

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