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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:00:06 PM EDT
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When video of that meteor a few years ago in Russia made its way around, my thought was: note to self. If you see a bright flash and an explosion from far away, get the hell away from windows right now to avoid glass shards in your eyes, or worse.
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:01:15 PM EDT
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 Destroyed in Seconds- Chemical Plant Explosion  Tianjin Explosion: Another View |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:02:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Individual's reaction underscore the difference in men and women. Men were incredibly more controlled in the aftermath. The screaming and crying of females was as shrill as the alarms. The father grabbing his child, turning his back to the blast, then putting the child under a table is an example of reason versus feelings; calm versus hysteria. Such demonstrates the inherent danger of placing women in combat or high stress areas. Picture are worth a thousand words or shrieks. True. Some of the shrieking would cause one to think sudden traumatic amputation of something had just occurred, as opposed to a female being scared. However, I have seen the latter reaction to sudden events, and the shrieking rather than the actual event is what inspired the most anxiety in me. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:02:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When video of that meteor a few years ago in Russia made its way around, my thought was: note to self. If you see a bright flash and an explosion from far away, get the hell away from windows right now to avoid glass shards in your eyes, or worse. You're not going to get a lot of Click, Like and Subscribe with that sissy attitude, mister. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:03:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're not going to get a lot of Click, Like and Subscribe with that sissy attitude, mister. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When video of that meteor a few years ago in Russia made its way around, my thought was: note to self. If you see a bright flash and an explosion from far away, get the hell away from windows right now to avoid glass shards in your eyes, or worse. You're not going to get a lot of Click, Like and Subscribe with that sissy attitude, mister. You'll be sorry when the nukes fly and I have intact sunglasses. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:08:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they ever find the 30 tons of ammonium nitrate that went missing from the train cars this summer in the US southwest? Sorry, what? |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:09:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'll be sorry when the nukes fly and I have intact sunglasses. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: When video of that meteor a few years ago in Russia made its way around, my thought was: note to self. If you see a bright flash and an explosion from far away, get the hell away from windows right now to avoid glass shards in your eyes, or worse. You're not going to get a lot of Click, Like and Subscribe with that sissy attitude, mister. You'll be sorry when the nukes fly and I have intact sunglasses. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:09:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they ever find the 30 tons of ammonium nitrate that went missing from the train cars this summer in the US southwest? No, because it leaked out of the car throughout the trip. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:10:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't they come to the conclusion that the car doors were able to open and spill the ammonia nitrate. Yes, it was a leaking gate on a hopper car. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:12:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quantity doesn't matter in theory. But when it has happened in history large quantities have been involved. The issue is the heat necessary to reach critical decomposition. In large quantities and in stores where other flammable materials are present, it is much easier to generate the necessary conditions. Prilled ammonium nitrate is very stable. I wouldn't say they have been known to KB without much effort, in all historical cases there have been serious fire events on going which was the main driver. There are tons of technical papers and tests that have been conducted on yields of nitrate based fertilizers. The details of those reactions and actions needed to get those reactions are well understood. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 1:30 - 2:00 Sure looks like fireworks near the point of explosion, then in the building next door to the person filming. If cluster bombs they would have been part of a shipment inside the building, as thats where the pops were coming from. If truly an An explosion where did the fuel come from? And how much was added to cause that big of a badaboom? Did they use firehoses hooked to a diesel tank instead of a fire hydrant? So many questions The ammonium nitrate was the "fuel" for the explosion. You do not need fuel oil or similar to get an explosive yield out of ammonium nitrate. Similar events have occurred several times throughout history with nitrate based fertilizers. I've read that AN can become more sensitive in large quantities (like tons). The article that I read said nobody knows why, but it has been demonstrated in multiple large scale accidents. In normal quantities, like a 50 lb bag, AN would need to be mixed with a sensitizing agent, then often needs a booster charge in addition to a blasting cap. However, big piles of plain AN have been known to KB without much effort. Quantity doesn't matter in theory. But when it has happened in history large quantities have been involved. The issue is the heat necessary to reach critical decomposition. In large quantities and in stores where other flammable materials are present, it is much easier to generate the necessary conditions. Prilled ammonium nitrate is very stable. I wouldn't say they have been known to KB without much effort, in all historical cases there have been serious fire events on going which was the main driver. There are tons of technical papers and tests that have been conducted on yields of nitrate based fertilizers. The details of those reactions and actions needed to get those reactions are well understood. I stand corrected. Thanks for the info. And screen name checks out. 
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:20:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why can’t phone manufacturers make it so the phone records in landscape mode when it is held upright (normal position)? Sorry man the reason you see vertical video is because that is how you use your phone the majority of the time. Not everyone is as smart as you. Motorola (or at least the one I have) does this. Hold it vertical you get a horizontal video. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:21:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they ever find the 30 tons of ammonium nitrate that went missing from the train cars this summer in the US southwest? Relax, I'm sure the FBI knows exactly where it is... |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:26:37 PM EDT
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"The movement shed light on Israel's impossible situation along its border with Lebanon, which bristles with as many as 150,000 rockets and missiles pointed at Israel."
How Iran and Hezbollah trapped Israel into staring down 150,000 rockets All of that was to be used for rocket engines. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:29:42 PM EDT
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Agreed on Mr What the Actual Fuck being hilarious
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Posted: 11/28/2023 2:51:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quantity doesn't matter in theory. But when it has happened in history large quantities have been involved. The issue is the heat necessary to reach critical decomposition. In large quantities and in stores where other flammable materials are present, it is much easier to generate the necessary conditions. Prilled ammonium nitrate is very stable. I wouldn't say they have been known to KB without much effort, in all historical cases there have been serious fire events on going which was the main driver. There are tons of technical papers and tests that have been conducted on yields of nitrate based fertilizers. The details of those reactions and actions needed to get those reactions are well understood. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 1:30 - 2:00 Sure looks like fireworks near the point of explosion, then in the building next door to the person filming. If cluster bombs they would have been part of a shipment inside the building, as thats where the pops were coming from. If truly an An explosion where did the fuel come from? And how much was added to cause that big of a badaboom? Did they use firehoses hooked to a diesel tank instead of a fire hydrant? So many questions The ammonium nitrate was the "fuel" for the explosion. You do not need fuel oil or similar to get an explosive yield out of ammonium nitrate. Similar events have occurred several times throughout history with nitrate based fertilizers. I've read that AN can become more sensitive in large quantities (like tons). The article that I read said nobody knows why, but it has been demonstrated in multiple large scale accidents. In normal quantities, like a 50 lb bag, AN would need to be mixed with a sensitizing agent, then often needs a booster charge in addition to a blasting cap. However, big piles of plain AN have been known to KB without much effort. Quantity doesn't matter in theory. But when it has happened in history large quantities have been involved. The issue is the heat necessary to reach critical decomposition. In large quantities and in stores where other flammable materials are present, it is much easier to generate the necessary conditions. Prilled ammonium nitrate is very stable. I wouldn't say they have been known to KB without much effort, in all historical cases there have been serious fire events on going which was the main driver. There are tons of technical papers and tests that have been conducted on yields of nitrate based fertilizers. The details of those reactions and actions needed to get those reactions are well understood. @ag04blast Thank you for this post. I mean it. Wish we had more of these types of comments here. Just refreshing when people aren't calling each other names. And instead spreading knowledge. America needs more of this. Please post more. I'm often sarcastic but genuinely mean this. |
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Posted: 11/28/2023 3:00:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2023 3:10:20 PM EDT
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The West, TX, fertilizer explosion was much smaller but still devastating.
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Posted: 11/28/2023 3:26:26 PM EDT
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I worked for Honeywell and the they had a new TDC 3000 DCS system installed prior to the blast. They didn't have clue how to run it. I spent 9 months rebuilding the Port Neal plant and assisted with the install of a Triconix safety shutdown system. They should have had the SSS before any of the control system upgrades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Neal_fertilizer_plant_explosion |
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Posted: 11/28/2023 3:36:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I worked for Honeywell and the they had a new TDC 3000 DCS system installed prior to the blast. They didn't have clue how to run it. I spent 9 months rebuilding the Port Neal plant and assisted with the install of a Triconix safety shutdown system. They should have had the SSS before any of the control system upgrades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Neal_fertilizer_plant_explosion All that experience and you don't know how to hotlink?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Neal_fertilizer_plant_explosion |
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Posted: 11/28/2023 3:37:41 PM EDT
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