[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Surefire Campaign Donations, Take #2 - Magazine Bans & UBC - Now with Jerry Brown donations! (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 2/24/2019 9:10:07 PM EDT
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Seeing as how some individuals decided to get the previous thread locked, here is the information again. Official PAC Name: THE SUREFIRE PAC Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708 Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG FEC Committee ID: C00464768 Out of those that donated to the PAC, we have.... John Matthews - Founder of of Newport Corporation, which is now known as Surefire Joel Smith - Chief Administrative Officer at Surefire Gustav Bonse - Chief Operating Officer at Surefire Sean Vo - Chief Financial Officer at Surefire Matthew Hemenez - Vice President of Marketing, Sales, and Product Management at Surefire Jennifer Curlee - Director, Information Technology at Surefire Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC) 2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010) 2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768) 2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014) Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009 111th Congress (2009-2010) https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324 H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 112th Congress (2011-2012) https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308 H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752 H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217 H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411 UPDATE: Surefire has posted the following response on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/SureFire/posts/2493085487387686?__tn__=K-R Dear Customers and Concerned Citizens: It has been brought to our attention that past political donations from the SureFire Political Action Committee (PAC) have been called in to question along with SureFire's stance on the Second Amendment. Before we get to the facts we'd like to thank you for your support and we sincerely appreciate your loyalty. It's a long read but the details should provide a fuller perspective: Established in 2010 and disbanded in 2014, the purpose of the SureFire PAC was to gain the support and assistance of our state representatives (both Democrat and Republican) so that we had a chance at (1) obtaining congressional funding to develop sighting technology that would improve the warfighter's ability to aim crew-served weapons, and (2) to be able to reach out to our representatives when we need assistance doing business in California. During its existence from 2010 to 2014 the SureFire PAC made donations totaling approximately $10,356 to Democrat representatives and $16,610 to Republican representatives. It should be noted that we were unsuccessful in obtaining congressional funding for the weapon-sight development project mentioned above, and that all of our product development has been self-funded. But if you are a defense business that hopes to get congressional budget earmarked funding and/or program support for defense-related projects, you typically need to get the attention and support of at least one of your state representativesor all of them if possibleso they can "represent" your interests during the budget appropriations process. This is how business is done in the defense industry, by most medium-sized defense manufacturers, and by all of the large ones. And, it's what we needed to do to achieve our mission of ensuring the safety, success and survival of our customerswhether military, law enforcement, or patriot-citizen. In 2018 one of our employees donated $500 to the DNC Services Corp, a pro-Democrat organization. This was a personal donation, had nothing to do with SureFire, and despite the fact that we, as a company, are not aligned with his political preferences, we recognize his right to think differently and to vote as he pleases. SureFire (as an organization) is 2A to the core. I myself am an NRA Lifetime Endowment member; our VP of Suppressors and Weapons is a veteran and world-class competitive shooter; our VP of Sales and Marketing is a veteran and competitive shooter; our VP of Military Sales gave 21 years to his country, 18 of them as an Army Special Operations commando; our graphic designers practice dry-firing and handgun drills in the office; our team-building events usually involve shooting; many of our executives and employees are concealed carry permit holders and carry daily. Most of us worry about how to live our 2A lives without running afoul of so-called "assault rifle" laws, reduced-capacity magazine regulations, and all the other restrictions we deal with as firearms owners, and as a manufacturer of firearms and firearms accessories in California. We also support organizations such as the National Rifle Association, American Suppressor Association, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation, among others, and are proud of our long history of sponsoring USPSA, IDPA, 3-Gun and other shooting sports. Come by our office and you'll see we share the same values as you do when it comes to the freedom to bear arms. Our focus is on providing the warfighter, first responder, and armed citizen with the tools they need to win the fight, and we promise to keep making products that support the Second Amendment, the American worker, our economy, our military, and freedom in general. John Matthews Founder & President UPDATE 2: STATE LEVEL How about some state level Democrat donations? Is Governor Jerry Brown a friend of the 2nd Amendment? http://powersearch.sos.ca.gov/advanced.php 
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They just posted this on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/SureFire/posts/2493085487387686?__tn__=K-R Dear Customers and Concerned Citizens: It has been brought to our attention that past political donations from the SureFire Political Action Committee (PAC) have been called in to question along with SureFire's stance on the Second Amendment. Before we get to the facts we'd like to thank you for your support and we sincerely appreciate your loyalty. It's a long read but the details should provide a fuller perspective: Established in 2010 and disbanded in 2014, the purpose of the SureFire PAC was to gain the support and assistance of our state representatives (both Democrat and Republican) so that we had a chance at (1) obtaining congressional funding to develop sighting technology that would improve the warfighter's ability to aim crew-served weapons, and (2) to be able to reach out to our representatives when we need assistance doing business in California. During its existence from 2010 to 2014 the SureFire PAC made donations totaling approximately $10,356 to Democrat representatives and $16,610 to Republican representatives. It should be noted that we were unsuccessful in obtaining congressional funding for the weapon-sight development project mentioned above, and that all of our product development has been self-funded. But if you are a defense business that hopes to get congressional budget earmarked funding and/or program support for defense-related projects, you typically need to get the attention and support of at least one of your state representativesor all of them if possibleso they can "represent" your interests during the budget appropriations process. This is how business is done in the defense industry, by most medium-sized defense manufacturers, and by all of the large ones. And, it's what we needed to do to achieve our mission of ensuring the safety, success and survival of our customerswhether military, law enforcement, or patriot-citizen. In 2018 one of our employees donated $500 to the DNC Services Corp, a pro-Democrat organization. This was a personal donation, had nothing to do with SureFire, and despite the fact that we, as a company, are not aligned with his political preferences, we recognize his right to think differently and to vote as he pleases. SureFire (as an organization) is 2A to the core. I myself am an NRA Lifetime Endowment member; our VP of Suppressors and Weapons is a veteran and world-class competitive shooter; our VP of Sales and Marketing is a veteran and competitive shooter; our VP of Military Sales gave 21 years to his country, 18 of them as an Army Special Operations commando; our graphic designers practice dry-firing and handgun drills in the office; our team-building events usually involve shooting; many of our executives and employees are concealed carry permit holders and carry daily. Most of us worry about how to live our 2A lives without running afoul of so-called "assault rifle" laws, reduced-capacity magazine regulations, and all the other restrictions we deal with as firearms owners, and as a manufacturer of firearms and firearms accessories in California. We also support organizations such as the National Rifle Association, American Suppressor Association, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation, among others, and are proud of our long history of sponsoring USPSA, IDPA, 3-Gun and other shooting sports. Come by our office and you'll see we share the same values as you do when it comes to the freedom to bear arms. Our focus is on providing the warfighter, first responder, and armed citizen with the tools they need to win the fight, and we promise to keep making products that support the Second Amendment, the American worker, our economy, our military, and freedom in general. John Matthews Founder & President |
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They just posted this on facebook. https://www.facebook.com/SureFire/posts/2493085487387686?__tn__=K-R Dear Customers and Concerned Citizens: It has been brought to our attention that past political donations from the SureFire Political Action Committee (PAC) have been called in to question along with SureFire's stance on the Second Amendment. Before we get to the facts we'd like to thank you for your support and we sincerely appreciate your loyalty. It's a long read but the details should provide a fuller perspective: Established in 2010 and disbanded in 2014, the purpose of the SureFire PAC was to gain the support and assistance of our state representatives (both Democrat and Republican) so that we had a chance at (1) obtaining congressional funding to develop sighting technology that would improve the warfighter's ability to aim crew-served weapons, and (2) to be able to reach out to our representatives when we need assistance doing business in California. During its existence from 2010 to 2014 the SureFire PAC made donations totaling approximately $10,356 to Democrat representatives and $16,610 to Republican representatives. It should be noted that we were unsuccessful in obtaining congressional funding for the weapon-sight development project mentioned above, and that all of our product development has been self-funded. But if you are a defense business that hopes to get congressional budget earmarked funding and/or program support for defense-related projects, you typically need to get the attention and support of at least one of your state representativesor all of them if possibleso they can "represent" your interests during the budget appropriations process. This is how business is done in the defense industry, by most medium-sized defense manufacturers, and by all of the large ones. And, it's what we needed to do to achieve our mission of ensuring the safety, success and survival of our customerswhether military, law enforcement, or patriot-citizen. In 2018 one of our employees donated $500 to the DNC Services Corp, a pro-Democrat organization. This was a personal donation, had nothing to do with SureFire, and despite the fact that we, as a company, are not aligned with his political preferences, we recognize his right to think differently and to vote as he pleases. SureFire (as an organization) is 2A to the core. I myself am an NRA Lifetime Endowment member; our VP of Suppressors and Weapons is a veteran and world-class competitive shooter; our VP of Sales and Marketing is a veteran and competitive shooter; our VP of Military Sales gave 21 years to his country, 18 of them as an Army Special Operations commando; our graphic designers practice dry-firing and handgun drills in the office; our team-building events usually involve shooting; many of our executives and employees are concealed carry permit holders and carry daily. Most of us worry about how to live our 2A lives without running afoul of so-called "assault rifle" laws, reduced-capacity magazine regulations, and all the other restrictions we deal with as firearms owners, and as a manufacturer of firearms and firearms accessories in California. We also support organizations such as the National Rifle Association, American Suppressor Association, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation, among others, and are proud of our long history of sponsoring USPSA, IDPA, 3-Gun and other shooting sports. Come by our office and you'll see we share the same values as you do when it comes to the freedom to bear arms. Our focus is on providing the warfighter, first responder, and armed citizen with the tools they need to win the fight, and we promise to keep making products that support the Second Amendment, the American worker, our economy, our military, and freedom in general. John Matthews Founder & President |
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At least that beats benchmade's response. Quoted:
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They just posted this on facebook. https://www.facebook.com/SureFire/posts/2493085487387686?__tn__=K-R Dear Customers and Concerned Citizens: It has been brought to our attention that past political donations from the SureFire Political Action Committee (PAC) have been called in to question along with SureFire's stance on the Second Amendment. Before we get to the facts we'd like to thank you for your support and we sincerely appreciate your loyalty. It's a long read but the details should provide a fuller perspective: Established in 2010 and disbanded in 2014, the purpose of the SureFire PAC was to gain the support and assistance of our state representatives (both Democrat and Republican) so that we had a chance at (1) obtaining congressional funding to develop sighting technology that would improve the warfighter's ability to aim crew-served weapons, and (2) to be able to reach out to our representatives when we need assistance doing business in California. During its existence from 2010 to 2014 the SureFire PAC made donations totaling approximately $10,356 to Democrat representatives and $16,610 to Republican representatives. It should be noted that we were unsuccessful in obtaining congressional funding for the weapon-sight development project mentioned above, and that all of our product development has been self-funded. But if you are a defense business that hopes to get congressional budget earmarked funding and/or program support for defense-related projects, you typically need to get the attention and support of at least one of your state representativesor all of them if possibleso they can "represent" your interests during the budget appropriations process. This is how business is done in the defense industry, by most medium-sized defense manufacturers, and by all of the large ones. And, it's what we needed to do to achieve our mission of ensuring the safety, success and survival of our customerswhether military, law enforcement, or patriot-citizen. In 2018 one of our employees donated $500 to the DNC Services Corp, a pro-Democrat organization. This was a personal donation, had nothing to do with SureFire, and despite the fact that we, as a company, are not aligned with his political preferences, we recognize his right to think differently and to vote as he pleases. SureFire (as an organization) is 2A to the core. I myself am an NRA Lifetime Endowment member; our VP of Suppressors and Weapons is a veteran and world-class competitive shooter; our VP of Sales and Marketing is a veteran and competitive shooter; our VP of Military Sales gave 21 years to his country, 18 of them as an Army Special Operations commando; our graphic designers practice dry-firing and handgun drills in the office; our team-building events usually involve shooting; many of our executives and employees are concealed carry permit holders and carry daily. Most of us worry about how to live our 2A lives without running afoul of so-called "assault rifle" laws, reduced-capacity magazine regulations, and all the other restrictions we deal with as firearms owners, and as a manufacturer of firearms and firearms accessories in California. We also support organizations such as the National Rifle Association, American Suppressor Association, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation, among others, and are proud of our long history of sponsoring USPSA, IDPA, 3-Gun and other shooting sports. Come by our office and you'll see we share the same values as you do when it comes to the freedom to bear arms. Our focus is on providing the warfighter, first responder, and armed citizen with the tools they need to win the fight, and we promise to keep making products that support the Second Amendment, the American worker, our economy, our military, and freedom in general. John Matthews Founder & President |
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Does OP have any info regarding the donations made at the state level in Cali? Wonder how much money surefire pumped into the anti-2A movement here as well? I have a guess  ...http://powersearch.sos.ca.gov/advanced.php Jerry Brown isn't pro gun, is he?
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LOL....we sold you out because we want .mil contracts, and uncle sugar money. They did the opposite of bitchmade, and straight up owned that shit like a boss. This sucks too, I feel Scout lights are the best, and just a bought a new one a few weeks back. I'm done now though. No true 2A gun company would give money to any DEM....prove me wrong! |
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I understand their position.
However, it still fucks us over. They want to better their business and earn contracts. That requires giving money to all kinds of creeps(politicians). It’s the way of the world. If guns get banned for me and you...surefire will be ok. They can still sell their shit to the .gov. If it’s not surefire, it’s another company that we believe is pro 2A. I’m sure we could dig deep enough and get dirt on plenty of pro 2A companies. |
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LOL....we sold you out because we want .mil contracts, and uncle sugar money. They did the opposite of bitchmade, and straight up owned that shit like a boss. This sucks too, I feel Scout lights are the best, and just a bought a new one a few weeks back. I'm done now though. No true 2A gun company would give money to any DEM....prove me wrong! It was justified though...just a part of doing business...right? |
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Also, for what it’s worth, this dirty Sanchez could have been a presidential candidate for the D right now. Well probably not but she was the opposition to Kamala Harris on the Cali ballot for the retiring Boxer’s senate seat. Two D pieces of shit as the only choices. Yay Cali’s top (2) system in lieu of one each R & D! Y’all need to fight this type of change if it is brought to the table in your state... |
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I understand their position. However, it still fucks us over. They want to better their business and earn contracts. That requires giving money to all kinds of creeps(politicians). It’s the way of the world. If guns get banned for me and you...surefire will be ok. They can still sell their shit to the .gov. If it’s not surefire, it’s another company that we believe is pro 2A. I’m sure we could dig deep enough and get dirt on plenty of pro 2A companies. I'm not a fan of Larue, but I know he gave a lot of money to Rick Perry, and would bet he hasn't given money to DEMs. At the end of the day, I'm not so brand loyal that I'll sell out my own freedoms, and rights. Capitalism will bring about a better replacement who respects, and supports the 2A. |
| I would rather see them spend the money exposing how you have to grease the hands of politicians to secure government contracts to equip our war fighters with the equipment they need than to see them basically using it to bribe sleazeball politicians on either side of the aisle |
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Quoted: Did you vote for Trump? He gave money to Dems... It was justified though...just a part of doing business...right? Trump is a politician, and I think most on this site know by now how quickly he'll sell out 2A rights for feels, political wins, etc. I voted for Trump to answer your question though. |
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They just posted this on facebook. https://www.facebook.com/SureFire/posts/2493085487387686?__tn__=K-R Dear Customers and Concerned Citizens: It has been brought to our attention that past political donations from the SureFire Political Action Committee (PAC) have been called in to question along with SureFire's stance on the Second Amendment. Before we get to the facts we'd like to thank you for your support and we sincerely appreciate your loyalty. It's a long read but the details should provide a fuller perspective: Established in 2010 and disbanded in 2014, the purpose of the SureFire PAC was to gain the support and assistance of our state representatives (both Democrat and Republican) so that we had a chance at (1) obtaining congressional funding to develop sighting technology that would improve the warfighter's ability to aim crew-served weapons, and (2) to be able to reach out to our representatives when we need assistance doing business in California. During its existence from 2010 to 2014 the SureFire PAC made donations totaling approximately $10,356 to Democrat representatives and $16,610 to Republican representatives. It should be noted that we were unsuccessful in obtaining congressional funding for the weapon-sight development project mentioned above, and that all of our product development has been self-funded. But if you are a defense business that hopes to get congressional budget earmarked funding and/or program support for defense-related projects, you typically need to get the attention and support of at least one of your state representativesor all of them if possibleso they can "represent" your interests during the budget appropriations process. This is how business is done in the defense industry, by most medium-sized defense manufacturers, and by all of the large ones. And, it's what we needed to do to achieve our mission of ensuring the safety, success and survival of our customerswhether military, law enforcement, or patriot-citizen. In 2018 one of our employees donated $500 to the DNC Services Corp, a pro-Democrat organization. This was a personal donation, had nothing to do with SureFire, and despite the fact that we, as a company, are not aligned with his political preferences, we recognize his right to think differently and to vote as he pleases. SureFire (as an organization) is 2A to the core. I myself am an NRA Lifetime Endowment member; our VP of Suppressors and Weapons is a veteran and world-class competitive shooter; our VP of Sales and Marketing is a veteran and competitive shooter; our VP of Military Sales gave 21 years to his country, 18 of them as an Army Special Operations commando; our graphic designers practice dry-firing and handgun drills in the office; our team-building events usually involve shooting; many of our executives and employees are concealed carry permit holders and carry daily. Most of us worry about how to live our 2A lives without running afoul of so-called "assault rifle" laws, reduced-capacity magazine regulations, and all the other restrictions we deal with as firearms owners, and as a manufacturer of firearms and firearms accessories in California. We also support organizations such as the National Rifle Association, American Suppressor Association, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation, among others, and are proud of our long history of sponsoring USPSA, IDPA, 3-Gun and other shooting sports. Come by our office and you'll see we share the same values as you do when it comes to the freedom to bear arms. Our focus is on providing the warfighter, first responder, and armed citizen with the tools they need to win the fight, and we promise to keep making products that support the Second Amendment, the American worker, our economy, our military, and freedom in general. John Matthews Founder & President |
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Much better reasoning & explanation vs that Benchmade guy... Quoted:
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They just posted this on facebook. https://www.facebook.com/SureFire/posts/2493085487387686?__tn__=K-R Dear Customers and Concerned Citizens: It has been brought to our attention that past political donations from the SureFire Political Action Committee (PAC) have been called in to question along with SureFire's stance on the Second Amendment. Before we get to the facts we'd like to thank you for your support and we sincerely appreciate your loyalty. It's a long read but the details should provide a fuller perspective: Established in 2010 and disbanded in 2014, the purpose of the SureFire PAC was to gain the support and assistance of our state representatives (both Democrat and Republican) so that we had a chance at (1) obtaining congressional funding to develop sighting technology that would improve the warfighter's ability to aim crew-served weapons, and (2) to be able to reach out to our representatives when we need assistance doing business in California. During its existence from 2010 to 2014 the SureFire PAC made donations totaling approximately $10,356 to Democrat representatives and $16,610 to Republican representatives. It should be noted that we were unsuccessful in obtaining congressional funding for the weapon-sight development project mentioned above, and that all of our product development has been self-funded. But if you are a defense business that hopes to get congressional budget earmarked funding and/or program support for defense-related projects, you typically need to get the attention and support of at least one of your state representativesor all of them if possibleso they can "represent" your interests during the budget appropriations process. This is how business is done in the defense industry, by most medium-sized defense manufacturers, and by all of the large ones. And, it's what we needed to do to achieve our mission of ensuring the safety, success and survival of our customerswhether military, law enforcement, or patriot-citizen. In 2018 one of our employees donated $500 to the DNC Services Corp, a pro-Democrat organization. This was a personal donation, had nothing to do with SureFire, and despite the fact that we, as a company, are not aligned with his political preferences, we recognize his right to think differently and to vote as he pleases. SureFire (as an organization) is 2A to the core. I myself am an NRA Lifetime Endowment member; our VP of Suppressors and Weapons is a veteran and world-class competitive shooter; our VP of Sales and Marketing is a veteran and competitive shooter; our VP of Military Sales gave 21 years to his country, 18 of them as an Army Special Operations commando; our graphic designers practice dry-firing and handgun drills in the office; our team-building events usually involve shooting; many of our executives and employees are concealed carry permit holders and carry daily. Most of us worry about how to live our 2A lives without running afoul of so-called "assault rifle" laws, reduced-capacity magazine regulations, and all the other restrictions we deal with as firearms owners, and as a manufacturer of firearms and firearms accessories in California. We also support organizations such as the National Rifle Association, American Suppressor Association, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation, among others, and are proud of our long history of sponsoring USPSA, IDPA, 3-Gun and other shooting sports. Come by our office and you'll see we share the same values as you do when it comes to the freedom to bear arms. Our focus is on providing the warfighter, first responder, and armed citizen with the tools they need to win the fight, and we promise to keep making products that support the Second Amendment, the American worker, our economy, our military, and freedom in general. John Matthews Founder & President |
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Lol at the response for surefire. I like the detail about how this was done to save Patriot citizen lives. Also liked the defensive comment basically saying "that's just how it's done here." Oh, and the "I'm am NRA endowment member..." had me laughing, because fuck the NRA too. I'm sorry, but a sell out is sell out. I don't care if that's the norm in your state. No one forced you to open up shop in commie country or to play by these corrupt "rules". Hope this hurts them at the top and some of the talented folks of the company take off and do their own thing. |
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I haven't dug into state level campaign finance contributions. A quick search shows they have given a lot to state level Democrats as well. http://powersearch.sos.ca.gov/advanced.php Jerry Brown isn't pro gun, is he? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_25_12_PM-857115.png https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_25_20_PM-857116.png Quoted:
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Does OP have any info regarding the donations made at the state level in Cali? Wonder how much money surefire pumped into the anti-2A movement here as well? I have a guess ...http://powersearch.sos.ca.gov/advanced.php Jerry Brown isn't pro gun, is he? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_25_12_PM-857115.png https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_25_20_PM-857116.png In 2010 he would have been running against Meg Wittman (R) for governor, IIRC. Wonder why moonbeam was the more desirable choice there?... |
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Quoted: No, he is not, although he did veto a couple/few of the anti-2A pieces of legislation that came across his desk. In 2010 he would have been running against Meg Wittman (R) for governor, IIRC. Wonder why moonbeam was the more desirable choice there?... |
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Quoted: Of course she had no chance Companies like Surefire funded the other side |
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Quoted: It probably had more to do with her managing to kill HP during her time in leadership, a general tone-deafness, inability to generate any electoral excitement at fucking all and her oh-so-magnificent "Demon Sheep" commercial. |
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I would be more bothered if the were recent donations. But the 2010 era (almost a decade ago) was different politically (pre Sandy Hook). We all know that even then these folks weren't our friends then. Only in the Trump era, these folks have gone off the rails. And, I imagine that some of these politicians, like regular people, hold views today (radical views) that they didn't hold in 2010. These radical thoughts probably weren't even thought then. All of the above is speculation. All of the above is me trying to unemotionally think about this. All of the above will most likely be dissmed with "sry your gurl lost". I just want to be consistent and not reactionary emotional like the real Nazis (Antifa). |
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I would be more bothered if the were recent donations. But the 2010 era (almost a decade ago) was different politically (pre Sandy Hook). We all know that even then these folks weren't our friends then. Only in the Trump era, these folks have gone off the rails. And, I imagine that some of these politicians, like regular people, hold views today (radical views) that they didn't hold in 2010. These radical thoughts probably weren't even thought then. All of the above is speculation. All of the above is me trying to unemotionally think about this. All of the above will most likely be dissmed with "sry your gurl lost". I just want to be consistent and not reactionary emotional like the real Nazis (Antifa). https://a59.asmdc.org/press-releases/assemblymember-jones-sawyer-sr-vows-protect-all-californians-gun-violence Here's a quote from three months *BEFORE* Surefire's last $2200 donation to him. "As the Chair of Public Safety, I will continue to fight for the innocent victims of gun violence, despite organizations such as the Firearms Policy Coalition labeling me as a Tyrant. I am proud of California’s gun regulation laws, and will continue to work with my colleagues to make California safe for everyone.”" |
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Also, for what it’s worth, this dirty Sanchez could have been a presidential candidate for the D right now. Well probably not but she was the opposition to Kamala Harris on the Cali ballot for the retiring Boxer’s senate seat. Two D pieces of shit as the only choices. Yay Cali’s top (2) system in lieu of one each R & D! Y’all need to fight this type of change if it is brought to the table in your state... If Schwarzenegger (some 'R' he was) hasn't backed it, it probably would not have passed. The moderates flocked to that SOB like moths to bright light and he is the primary reason why it passed. But in the end, the people of California voted for that proposition. They made it happen and by an 8% margin, I think. Details here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_California_Proposition_14 ETA And let's not forget the prop. was authored by a Republican: State Senator Abel Maldonado (R). I've said for years the California Republican party is a total disaster and they basically proved it by cutting their own throats. After Prop. 14, I ceased making donations to those idiots. |
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The Dems pulled it off -- you gotta' hand it to them. They basically ensured no R will ever be elected to high office in California ever again. If Schwarzenegger (some 'R' he was) hasn't backed it, it probably would not have passed. The moderates flocked to that SOB like moths to bright light and he is the primary reason why it passed. But in the end, the people of California voted for that proposition. They made it happen and by an 8% margin, I think. Details here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_California_Proposition_14 ETA And let's not forget the prop. was authored by a Republican: State Senator Abel Maldonado (R). I've said for years the California Republican party is a total disaster and they basically proved it by cutting their own throats. After Prop. 14, I ceased making donations to those idiots. Quoted:
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Also, for what it's worth, this dirty Sanchez could have been a presidential candidate for the D right now. Well probably not but she was the opposition to Kamala Harris on the Cali ballot for the retiring Boxer's senate seat. Two D pieces of shit as the only choices. Yay Cali's top (2) system in lieu of one each R & D! Y'all need to fight this type of change if it is brought to the table in your state... If Schwarzenegger (some 'R' he was) hasn't backed it, it probably would not have passed. The moderates flocked to that SOB like moths to bright light and he is the primary reason why it passed. But in the end, the people of California voted for that proposition. They made it happen and by an 8% margin, I think. Details here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_California_Proposition_14 ETA And let's not forget the prop. was authored by a Republican: State Senator Abel Maldonado (R). I've said for years the California Republican party is a total disaster and they basically proved it by cutting their own throats. After Prop. 14, I ceased making donations to those idiots. ...
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