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Posted: 6/16/2022 8:40:16 PM EDT
Is the aluminum framed P38 a durable piece?

Is it worth getting? I have a World War 2 P-38 and it does not inspire confidence. It has a pressed steel cover that holds the rear sight in place. This rear sight cover could easily come loose given enough use.

But is the P1 made to a higher standard?

What do you guys think?
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 8:43:54 PM EDT
[#1]
I prefer the steel pin reinforced frame variation. They are designed for standard pressure loads.
Soft shooting and a unique handgun.

Pic does not do it justice.

Link Posted: 6/16/2022 8:44:26 PM EDT
[#2]
Got any pics?
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 8:45:51 PM EDT
[#3]
They were crazy cheap 10 or 15 years ago. I passed but purchased a RC WW2 model when they were around, shoots good.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 8:46:30 PM EDT
[#4]
I have one, picked it up cheap ($350 or $400?) years ago when they were available surplus.

No actual complaints about it but it mostly sits in the safe. Pretty gun though.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 8:48:46 PM EDT
[#5]
Hex Bolt variation is the preferred shooter, though if you stick to 124 grain and under, the non hex bolts are fine if you don't beat the shit out of them.

Love my P1s!!!!  I shoot them nearly as good as my 1911s.

Obligatory pic of "Clown Shoes", my black P1:

Link Posted: 6/16/2022 8:48:50 PM EDT
[#6]
The gun in question is described as a 1987 Walther P1 in excellent condition. It comes with a holster.

The price is about $540 US.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 8:58:47 PM EDT
[#7]
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I prefer the steel pin reinforced frame variation. They are designed for standard pressure loads.
Soft shooting and a unique handgun.

Pic does not do it justice.

https://i.imgur.com/liIhQCE.jpg
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Best $99 I spent in 1982.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 8:59:20 PM EDT
[#8]
They hold up fine Just don't shoot +P or 9mm Nato (M882) through it. Commercial 115 only.

The steel hex pin is un necessary and actually weakens the frame leading to cracks. Keep the cam surface lubed.

P1 has beefier slide to prevent cracking in locking block recesses.

Beware there are atleast 3 types of bbls.

1. One piece bbl found on early postwar P38. Best.

2. Sleeved straight through liner on mid late Post war P38 and early  P1. This barrel is crap avoid it. Liner just secured by fit and a cross pin.shoot it alot and liner will walk out muzzle.

3. Late sleeved with chamber as part of liner, Good, look for line about 1/8 forward of breech.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:01:29 PM EDT
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The gun in question is described as a 1987 Walther P1 in excellent condition. It comes with a holster.

The price is about $540 US.
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Not baddd.  They have been going up...

Oooh, another thing, due to the era in which these were designed, sometimes you will have problems with cartridges that have a longer OAL.  They seem to like to jam up in the mag.  It's not hard to unjam them if you have a tool like a 10-8 unjamming tool or a small dowel.  

You can always download a round or two and the ammo will run fine.  I guess ( ?????? ) that some modern ammo is longer than the original European stuff these were designed for.  (?????)
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:05:41 PM EDT
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I have one, picked it up cheap ($350 or $400?) years ago when they were available surplus.

No actual complaints about it but it mostly sits in the safe. Pretty gun though.
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Yep, #metoo.

I forgot I had it until this thread reminded me.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:14:17 PM EDT
[#11]
I had one many, many years ago. It was a very cool novelty, but I was much more of a WWII nerd than a shooter back then. My only real memory of the gun itself was that I couldn’t hit a thing with it… the gun was in very good condition from what I could tell, but the accuracy seemed very inconsistent. I’m not sure if it was the gun or my lack of training. It was ultimately lost in a fire.

Of all the guns that were lost, that was one that I cared less about. But for the price, condition, and accessories you described? I’d probably go for it.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:15:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Hex pin and thick slide variants are the most durable.
They help insure that they last their 5,000 round projected service life.
Take that for what it is worth.
The best of all worlds over a P1 would be a steel P38 frame with a thick P1 slide.
The thin P1 slide has the same dimension of a P38 slide.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:17:31 PM EDT
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Hex pin and thick slide variants are the most durable.
They help insure that they last their 5,000 round projected service life.
Take that for what it is worth.
The best of all worlds over a P1 would be a steel P38 frame with a thick P1 slide.
The thin P1 slide has the same dimension of a P38 slide.
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5000 rounds?? That's all?

Instead I should get another Jericho 941.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:17:34 PM EDT
[#14]
As long as you get the version with the reinforced frame and it passes the regular safety checks, GTG.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:20:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Make sure the top cover is good.

Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:24:11 PM EDT
[#16]
I bought two, P1's wit original East German leather holsters from J&G Sales about 12 years ago. Don't remember what I paid but they are both in great shape and have the reinforcing pin. Fun guns to shoot
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:32:24 PM EDT
[#17]
Portuguese Paratroops were still using them in some hot zones in Africa recently:



Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:33:52 PM EDT
[#18]
They are super.  I replaced the springs with wolff springs.  I have a 1945 Mauser grey ghost.  Weird metal grips.  Made for the French after the war with German parts.   Still never shot it.  

I also have one of 10,000 end of war p38’s assembled for US GI’s  it’s a mismatch gun and was shot very little.  I put a few rounds of 115 gr just to test it.  
The are basically like a beretta 92. Same barrel lock.  I like mine. Would like it more in 45 acp.   Boomer here.  
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 9:34:11 PM EDT
[#19]
Look for a post-war commercial P38 with a steel frame.

It appears that Earl's Repair Service still has some in 9mm and .30 Luger : http://www.carlwalther.com/p38.htm

Link Posted: 6/16/2022 10:26:32 PM EDT
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The gun in question is described as a 1987 Walther P1 in excellent condition. It comes with a holster.

The price is about $540 US.
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The question you need to ask is not whether you want a 1987 P1 in excellent condition, but rather how apoplectic Justin Trudeau would be if he knew you bought a Nazi baby-killing weapon of war like that...

For the price I'd probably get it, but in that timeframe I like the P5 better...
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 10:29:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Buddies dad had a post war P38. Dropped it while loaded with FMJ and got a through and through in the arm and in the collar and out the back. No major damage and was sewn up and out in a day.

One bullet made 4 holes in him.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 10:51:02 PM EDT
[#22]
What about the P38/II? I've got one with wood grips, but honestly, don't fire it much.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 11:15:01 PM EDT
[#23]
Got mines from cabela for $279 about 2 years ago..... 1982 production.

I dig it.......RTG had magazines for 10 for $99.

I like shooting it but I am hunting for a surplus barrel so I can suppress it.
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