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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:00:15 AM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your wife looks ok Your wife looks mediocre Your wife looks terrible Your wife looks bad Your wife looks bald Etc. What’s the word you can swing on with no legal repercussions? Head over to BOTD and try it out. 
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:04:32 AM EST
[#2]
Rock makes fun of everyone. I don't think he knew of her hair loss condition.
Smith's behavior strongly suggests to me: 1. He is incredibly insecure in his marriage. 2. He is eaten away by his wife's behavior if it is fact true that they have an open marriage. He feels guilty that he is fucking other women while men fuck his wife. 3. He fears he is seen as the weakest black man on the plant because #2 is true. 4. He was drunk. His acceptance speech was the longest defense of his good character and justification for slapping Rock that I could have imagined. Imagine if a white man had slapped Rock. HO LEE SHIT! 5. Trump's fault. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:05:13 AM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, if you insult a man's wife on national TV over a disease she has, I don't have much sympathy for whatever the consequences are. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The only thing Will Smith did that was wrong was hit him open handed....  Yep, if you insult a man's wife on national TV over a disease she has, I don't have much sympathy for whatever the consequences are. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:05:59 AM EST
[#4]
Brought to you by the culture of no self control.
Drive how you want, cops can't stop you. Want that big screen, take it. Someone says something you don't like, punch them. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:06:27 AM EST
[#5]
Someone made the point about not talking shit about a black woman’s hair (maybe some truth there).
Regarding the law, sure, if CR filed a complaint it would theoretically go to trial and a jury would decide the limits of free speech in this particular case. Some comment too about Will Smith being in Scientology jail |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:08:27 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In a different situation many here would shoot a black guy advancing on them aggressively. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:08:57 AM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But can you get assaulted by someone who feels they have the right to assault you for saying it ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Will Smith incident got me thinking......... Lots of replies claiming it was ok to assault a guy who told a tasteless joke or insulted your wife etc Yet, most 2A supporters ( majority here ? ) defend free speech ? Condoning violence against those who SAY something you do not like is a slippery slope. That’s not what free speech is, not is there freedom from consequences from fucked up speech . I’m not a fan of cancel culture as a whole but as long as it’s not the government or government entity prohibiting it with threat of fine, jail, etc then I don’t give a shit. I can go into my work right now and say all kinds of shit that is Non threatening and 100% “legal “ but get fired for it . But can you get assaulted by someone who feels they have the right to assault you for saying it ? Rock has the right to press charges, and he declined to. Seems like he knew he kind of earned that one. On any other day, GD is a big fan of popping someone in the mouth for running it......today might not be one of those days though. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:10:28 AM EST
[#8]
Quoted: The Will Smith incident got me thinking......... Lots of replies claiming it was ok to assault a guy who told a tasteless joke or insulted your wife etc Yet, most 2A supporters ( majority here ? ) defend free speech ? Condoning violence against those who SAY something you do not like is a slippery slope.  How did the Government restrict free speech? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:10:57 AM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Head over to BOTD and try it out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your wife looks ok Your wife looks mediocre Your wife looks terrible Your wife looks bad Your wife looks bald Etc. What’s the word you can swing on with no legal repercussions? Head over to BOTD and try it out. Anything under an 8, I’d guess…. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:16:53 AM EST
[#10]
This is not a First Amendment issue. The Constitution is for interaction between the government and private citizens. Not for interactions between private citizens.
And if you very publicly disrespect someone without being VERY CERTAIN that they can take the joke, the ass-kicking you receive is noone's fault but your own. The law may not agree with me, but the law is a pretty piss-poor barometer of right and wrong. I'm pretty certain every single one of the men who signed that document would be more than willing to straight-up shoot you if you insulted their wife. Duels over honor and disrespect were a thing back then. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:20:23 AM EST
[#11]
Quoted: The Will Smith incident got me thinking......... Lots of replies claiming it was ok to assault a guy who told a tasteless joke or insulted your wife etc Yet, most 2A supporters ( majority here ? ) defend free speech ? Condoning violence against those who SAY something you do not like is a slippery slope. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:21:52 AM EST
[#12]
IMHO, Will Smith could have made his point better by getting up and leaving rather than over-reacting.
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:23:57 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted:  What happened to the "Men" in this country? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The only thing Will Smith did that was wrong was hit him open handed.... Yep, if you insult a man’s wife on national TV over a disease she has, I don’t have much sympathy for whatever the consequences are. What happened to the "Men" in this country? lol what a man letting men Jack hammer his wife while he cries about it on tv |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:24:32 AM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rock has the right to press charges, and he declined to. Seems like he knew he kind of earned that one. On any other day, GD is a big fan of popping someone in the mouth for running it......today might not be one of those days though. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:25:26 AM EST
[#15]
Quoted: The Will Smith incident got me thinking......... Lots of replies claiming it was ok to assault a guy who told a tasteless joke or insulted your wife etc Yet, most 2A supporters ( majority here ? ) defend free speech ? Condoning violence against those who SAY something you do not like is a slippery slope. Is Chris Rock going to jail for what he said? No? No denial of freedom of speech. The 1st Amendment is not "Freedom from consequences". By that asinine logic you could shoot anyone for any reason and say "But muh 2nd amendment" |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:27:18 AM EST
[#16]
Quoted: The Will Smith incident got me thinking......... Lots of replies claiming it was ok to assault a guy who told a tasteless joke or insulted your wife etc Yet, most 2A supporters ( majority here ? ) defend free speech ? Condoning violence against those who SAY something you do not like is a slippery slope. Meh, getting bitch slapped when you are joking on someone's wife is to be expected when you hit a nerve. Not surprised. FWIW I didn't hear the joke but I can understand that kind of thing setting someone off. Frankly repercussions are too infrequent for rude behavior, one might keep it below murder and mayhem though as a general rule of thumb. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:30:06 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not only should he have hit him, he should’ve made sure that CR needed a few minutes before getting back on his feet. Some of you “men” should question your own manliness. That's not manly. That's a mental defect. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:30:32 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Brought to you by the culture of no self control. Drive how you want, cops can't stop you. Want that big screen, take it. Someone says something you don't like, punch them. Arfcom? Because some GD posters are 2 for 3. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:31:38 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If a man assaulted his wife and it was witnessed by an Leo, she doesn't need to press charges, how is this any different? It was witnessed by hundreds in attendance and tv during the airing and millions the day after. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rock has the right to press charges, and he declined to. Seems like he knew he kind of earned that one. On any other day, GD is a big fan of popping someone in the mouth for running it......today might not be one of those days though. It doesn't mean he won't still get those charges, just that Rock declined to file a report with law enforcement, and subsequently will not take it to court. Because it happened in a public space, there is likely an investigation ongoing and some sort of charge will be brought against him. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:32:03 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If a man assaulted his wife and it was witnessed by an Leo, she doesn't need to press charges, how is this any different? It was witnessed by hundreds in attendance and tv during the airing and millions the day after. Because police have discretion when to press or not press charges. In 99% of cases the wife doesn't deserve to be beaten and is not pressing charges because she is afraid of her husband an feels dependent on him. Chris Rock deserved a smack in the face and didn't press charges because he realized he deserved it. Who would the cops be helping in this situation by pressing charges? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:32:42 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, getting bitch slapped when you are joking on someone's wife is to be expected when you hit a nerve. Not surprised. FWIW I didn't hear the joke but I can understand that kind of thing setting someone off. Frankly repercussions are too infrequent for rude behavior, one might keep it below murder and mayhem though as a general rule of thumb. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Will Smith incident got me thinking......... Lots of replies claiming it was ok to assault a guy who told a tasteless joke or insulted your wife etc Yet, most 2A supporters ( majority here ? ) defend free speech ? Condoning violence against those who SAY something you do not like is a slippery slope. Meh, getting bitch slapped when you are joking on someone's wife is to be expected when you hit a nerve. Not surprised. FWIW I didn't hear the joke but I can understand that kind of thing setting someone off. Frankly repercussions are too infrequent for rude behavior, one might keep it below murder and mayhem though as a general rule of thumb. The long and short of it is that Jada has alopecia and has hair loss as a result, so she started shaving her head. Rock made a joke about her starring in GI Jane 2. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:36:52 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it even real? ^My thoughts. That "slap" got them millions of dollars of free publicity. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:38:43 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, getting bitch slapped when you are joking on someone's wife is to be expected when you hit a nerve. Not surprised. FWIW I didn't hear the joke but I can understand that kind of thing setting someone off. Frankly repercussions are too infrequent for rude behavior, one might keep it below murder and mayhem though as a general rule of thumb. So, everything short of the Charlie Hebdo shooting is fair game. Got it! 
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:39:05 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't mean he won't still get those charges, just that Rock declined to file a report with law enforcement, and subsequently will not take it to court. Because it happened in a public space, there is likely an investigation ongoing and some sort of charge will be brought against him. He is part of the elite in multiple protected classes at the capitol of virtue signaling. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:40:58 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He is part of the elite in multiple protected classes at the capitol of virtue signaling. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It doesn't mean he won't still get those charges, just that Rock declined to file a report with law enforcement, and subsequently will not take it to court. Because it happened in a public space, there is likely an investigation ongoing and some sort of charge will be brought against him. He is part of the elite in multiple protected classes at the capitol of virtue signaling. They will probably just classify the incident as "mutual combat" and call it a day. If the victim doesn't file a report, that will be the end of it. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:41:20 AM EST
[#26]
The right to offend.
 In full: Rowan Atkinson on free speech |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:44:56 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ETA 2. The ‘freedom of speech’ address in the Constitution refers to political speech and is there to guarantee free and open discourse. It is not a license for unfettered personal insults. No. Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. I don't see the word "political" any where in there - do you? Adults don't put hands on people over words. Maybe Will Smiff shoudl have taken up a more wholesome activity, like helping his son pick out a new dress ... |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:44:58 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I look at all this shit on a Constitutional basis Sure the 1A says you have the right to free speech. I’m good with that But the Constitution doesn’t say jackfuckall about not being allowed to bust someone in the mouth They are free to say what they want. And you are free to bust em in the cocksuker for it Simple man code. Don’t be a disrespectful motherfucker and you won’t get hit in the mouth All these “you can’t touch me it’s a crime” bullshit “laws” are part of the problem I hear so many on here bitch about the Karen’s and kens screeching about shit getting into people’s faces over masks, vax, muh faggot tranny gender group, etc How the fuck you think it got like that. Fuking bullshit “you can’t touch me laws” that empower those weak spineless bastards to run their cocksucker with ZERO ramifications Without the “ima call the cops cause you touched me” the world would be a much more respectful and courteous place No different than in the Wild West. They all called each other Sir and Ma’am. Why. Everyone was armed Being a disrespectful asshole had ramifications Respect doesn’t grow on trees. One must enforce the principle now and then for it to be remembered When the Constitution was written it was acceptable to settle the matter via fists, swords or pistols at dawn. Yes we have laws to prevent the weak from being assualted but we also shouldn't be so nutty. The bitch slap was disorderly conduct, $100 fine, get out of my court. Worth it. Now if Chris Rock was 99 years old and the bitch slap put him in a coma in the hospital then it is a different matter. If it was a stupid publicity stunt then may F be upon them all. I am not sure it was, from the clip I saw, Rock was taken aback and not acting in my opinion. Of course I could be wrong. they're actors, they fake shit for a living. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:46:44 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What about making jokes about your God ? Ok to slap then ? Or about your politics ? Ok to slap then ? Slippery slope......... Yep, where does the self righteous moral outrage end? Make a joke about someone's wife, husband attacks the joker, joker kills the husband in self defense. People with egos and wanting to act tough for a woman tend to take on more than they can handle. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:47:22 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Free from legal repercussions. A physical attack is assault and battery. Mr Smith laughed at the joke. Several moments lapsed before he acted. The timing leads to a deduction the whole affair was staged. I am not convinced either way. aaaaand it really doesn't matter one iota in my life. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:47:35 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was Will Smith an agent of the government acting under color of authority? Yes. You never seen "Men In Black"? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:48:11 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Say what you like, but take the consequences. Good punch. Maybe it's generational, but I wouldn't make a tasteless joke about a mans wife, and expect no response... Maybe not take your wife to a comedy roast or a hollywood awards show, then. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:48:32 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Two rich, Hollywood guys at odds, who should both have thick skin. I don't care. What if it had been Don Rickles instead of Chris Rock? Nobody would have got out alive! Anyway, I lost all respect for Will Smith. I can picture Chris Rock's next shows, where he comes on stage wearing a catcher's mask. Looking around, then raising the mask "Is he here?" Ok, I laughed at the picture you painted. 
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:49:13 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Really? You think it's ok to make jokes about someone's wife's ailments and you would expect to not get hit? I don't give a shit if that was the pope, good hit. Please tell me you do not have access to firearms. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:50:53 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please tell me you do not have access to firearms. Sounds like he won't for long. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:51:09 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's disappointing to see how few people on this site seem able to understand this. you don't get the difference between law and reality? I have seen cops roll around in the station, lawyer and judge punch it out at an event where alcohol was involved. What is codified and what happens are different. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:52:18 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm guessing you're apart for the MGTOWLGBWUQIJNEKRNVKFDS alphabet crew huh? It's the guys wife, not a 3rd party, come on... It may have been his "wife" but there have been more clowns going in and out of that vagina than the little car at the circus .... 
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:52:59 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It might have been staged. Maybe, maybe not. Either is possible. Put yourself in Smith's shoes. I'm sure more than a few Arfcommers have wives, sisters, girlfriends, daughters, mothers that have had cancer and had to shave their heads. What would you do if some guy was making fun of her for being bald in a room full of people laughing about it? Except: she doesn't have cancer. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:54:09 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They will probably just classify the incident as "mutual combat" and call it a day. If the victim doesn't file a report, that will be the end of it. Most likely. Different rules for us. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:54:47 AM EST
[#40]
Humor is hard, really hard.
Most humor is at someone's expense - either yours or someone else's. A "sense of humor" is important,... essential, really. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:55:28 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: you don't get the difference between law and reality? I have seen cops roll around in the station, lawyer and judge punch it out at an event where alcohol was involved. What is codified and what happens are different. Your description sounds more like a SF bathhouse than a civilized society. But, whatever makes you happy, I suppose. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:56:31 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rock makes fun of everyone. I don't think he knew of her hair loss condition. Smith's behavior strongly suggests to me: 1. He is incredibly insecure in his marriage. 2. He is eaten away by his wife's behavior if it is fact true that they have an open marriage. He feels guilty that he is fucking other women while men fuck his wife. 3. He fears he is seen as the weakest black man on the plant because #2 is true. 4. He was drunk. His acceptance speech was the longest defense of his good character and justification for slapping Rock that I could have imagined. Imagine if a white man had slapped Rock. HO LEE SHIT! 5. Trump's fault. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:57:20 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not only should he have hit him, he should’ve made sure that CR needed a few minutes before getting back on his feet. Some of you “men” should question your own manliness. Will picked a funny time to be "manly". One woudl think that whilst his wife is getting plowed more often, and by more different men, than an Ontario freeway in January might have been the time to alpha up. Now? Too little - too late. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:58:08 AM EST
[#44]
I believe in free speech. I also believe that people would not feel confident in making fun of another man's wife if there was the threat of a swift punch to the face.
Kids are coddled now days. They can't sort out affairs like we used to...and now they cry when offended rather than push back. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 11:00:04 AM EST
[#45]
speech must always be free for us to have a free society
will smith is mad, but he should be charged with simple battery. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 11:00:55 AM EST
[#46]
also.. nobody is calling out the black on black violence in hollywood??? come on ppl..
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Posted: 3/28/2022 11:01:44 AM EST
[#47]
IANAL, but I was a juror in a case and the judgement was that "words cannot cause malice", and assault, absent of malice gets punished.
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Posted: 3/28/2022 11:03:23 AM EST
[#48]
A lot of tough guys on here not fit to go to a comedy show, or even walk around in public if they can't keep their hands to themselves.
If a comedian makes a joke about you and/or your wife and your instinct is to beat his ass, you have not matured beyond highschool and probably shouldn't be trusted with deadly weapons in public. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 11:08:19 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It may have been his "wife" but there have been more clowns going in and out of that vagina than the little car at the circus .... https://annotatedgilmoregirls.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/clown-van-crash.jpg 10, 2, 5, 4, 7, 8, 9, 1, 3, 6 |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 11:08:19 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of tough guys on here not fit to go to a comedy show, or even walk around in public if they can't keep their hands to themselves. If a comedian makes a joke about you and/or your wife and your instinct is to beat his ass, you have not matured beyond highschool and probably shouldn't be trusted with deadly weapons in public. Call me a "hockey puck" will he? Hold my beer while I go up on stage and kick that Rickles guy's ASS!!! |
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