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Originally Posted By guns762: Thanks for the links! We are thinking something similar. I'll expand on that a bit later. Also need to add, our Team Leader from last year, who graduated has been following along here. He's also go similar ideas for the eyes and emailed me this weekend. View Quote Well, sign up, artiste, make yourself known. All kinds of membership benefits on ARFCOM - I met my wife here. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: As many have asked, I try to track the costs of this projects from beginning to end. Plywood, 2x4s, 2x6 $500 Paint, tape $100 Skeletons 24" and 60" and raven $150 ____________________________ Total as of 8/29/23 $750 View Quote $30 Burlap bags $30 Fabric for Viking uniforms $60 Pro-880 & 550 paste ________________________________ Total as of 9/11/23 $870 |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Really cool!!! Thanks for sharing! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By jarhead13: @guns762 I made this Viking boat from a kit about 45 years ago. The dragon head and tail are metal as the oars, shields and benches. I had to carve the boat hull myself. I didn’t paint the shields because these guys were recon and needed to be covert! 🤣https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/175733/IMG_0889_jpeg-2949068.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/175733/IMG_0891_jpeg-2949070.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/175733/IMG_0892_jpeg-2949072.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/175733/IMG_0893_jpeg-2949073.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/175733/IMG_0890_jpeg-2949076.JPG Really cool!!! Thanks for sharing! If you are interested, Billing Boats makes a small Viking trading ship model. Not a cool long ship or warship or anything, but still a really nice model. https://www.billingboats.com/index.php/modelboats-footer/56/120/boats/advanced-beginner/P-bb703-roar-ege It is a model of one of the ships from the Viking ship museum (that I think I linked to earlier in the thread): https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/visit-the-museum/exhibitions/the-five-reconstructions/roar-ege-skuldelev-3 When I retire, I am tempted to buy the Danish warship from 1765 and try to build it - but I KNOW I would completely fuck it up. https://www.billingboats.com/index.php/modelboats-footer/2/120/boats/the-expert/P-bb437-norske-love |
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“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
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Originally Posted By guns762: $30 Burlap bags $30 Fabric for Viking uniforms $60 Pro-880 & 550 paste ________________________________ Total as of 9/11/23 $870 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By guns762: As many have asked, I try to track the costs of this projects from beginning to end. Plywood, 2x4s, 2x6 $500 Paint, tape $100 Skeletons 24" and 60" and raven $150 ____________________________ Total as of 8/29/23 $750 $30 Burlap bags $30 Fabric for Viking uniforms $60 Pro-880 & 550 paste ________________________________ Total as of 9/11/23 $870 |
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“So, never give up. Continue to fight. You’ll either find a win here and there, or you’ll die fighting. I can accept either of those out comes”- March 31st, 2020 - Until Valhalla
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: If you are interested, Billing Boats makes a small Viking trading ship model. Not a cool long ship or warship or anything, but still a really nice model. https://www.billingboats.com/index.php/modelboats-footer/56/120/boats/advanced-beginner/P-bb703-roar-ege It is a model of one of the ships from the Viking ship museum (that I think I linked to earlier in the thread): https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/visit-the-museum/exhibitions/the-five-reconstructions/roar-ege-skuldelev-3 When I retire, I am tempted to buy the Danish warship from 1765 and try to build it - but I KNOW I would completely fuck it up. https://www.billingboats.com/index.php/modelboats-footer/2/120/boats/the-expert/P-bb437-norske-love View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By jarhead13: @guns762 I made this Viking boat from a kit about 45 years ago. The dragon head and tail are metal as the oars, shields and benches. I had to carve the boat hull myself. I didn’t paint the shields because these guys were recon and needed to be covert! 🤣https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/175733/IMG_0889_jpeg-2949068.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/175733/IMG_0891_jpeg-2949070.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/175733/IMG_0892_jpeg-2949072.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/175733/IMG_0893_jpeg-2949073.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/175733/IMG_0890_jpeg-2949076.JPG Really cool!!! Thanks for sharing! If you are interested, Billing Boats makes a small Viking trading ship model. Not a cool long ship or warship or anything, but still a really nice model. https://www.billingboats.com/index.php/modelboats-footer/56/120/boats/advanced-beginner/P-bb703-roar-ege It is a model of one of the ships from the Viking ship museum (that I think I linked to earlier in the thread): https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/visit-the-museum/exhibitions/the-five-reconstructions/roar-ege-skuldelev-3 When I retire, I am tempted to buy the Danish warship from 1765 and try to build it - but I KNOW I would completely fuck it up. https://www.billingboats.com/index.php/modelboats-footer/2/120/boats/the-expert/P-bb437-norske-love When you know you'll screw it up.. Get 2 kits. The first one to learn how the heck all that stuff goes together and then the second one to do it Right with all the lessons learned by breaking the first one. If you aren't making errors, you're not pushing yourself. Nobody learns anything by always doing something perfectly the first time. Being able to find/fix mistakes is what they call "Experience". This art class is a good example, look at how much neater the displays are going to be by doing them over! Never give u because you can't do it, not many are master model builders on the firs try, so just account for that when doing something new and different and you'll be fine. Biggest thing is having the right tools/clamps/jigs for holding stuff in place until it is fully fastened/glued and that amount to some forceps and some carved/cut/band-sawed pieces so basswood or even balsa to help things remain consistent by putting pins in different spots to keep equidistant parts the same length and stuff like that. The photographic dioramas and image perfect models of battle tanks weren't their first go at modeling when you see them on the net in photos. But it will always have negative results if you never dare to try. |
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guns, a tower that narrow is likely all staircase from bottom to top, so your arrow slits in the tower itself up until the top floor are not on floors themselves, but are openings on the staircase - so as the staircase goes up, the arrow slits rotate around the tower in a spiral pattern, the same as the staircase. Staircases were typically counter-clockwise from the bottom, to allow the defenders to better use swords and pikes in their right hands, while forcing the attackers to use their left.
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Originally Posted By guns762: $30 Burlap bags $30 Fabric for Viking uniforms $60 Pro-880 & 550 paste ________________________________ Total as of 9/11/23 $870 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By guns762: As many have asked, I try to track the costs of this projects from beginning to end. Plywood, 2x4s, 2x6 $500 Paint, tape $100 Skeletons 24" and 60" and raven $150 ____________________________ Total as of 8/29/23 $750 $30 Burlap bags $30 Fabric for Viking uniforms $60 Pro-880 & 550 paste ________________________________ Total as of 9/11/23 $870 + $150 2x4s, screws, & FRP paste ____________________________________ Total as of 9/12/23 $1020.00 |
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
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If you have to re-build the tower, maybe pivot to Yggrasil -Tree of Life Yggdrasil, the Nordic tree of life, is one of the most important Norse mythology symbols. In addition to these poetic references, there are early runic and artistic depictions of what anthropologists believe is Yggdrasil in tapestries, on rune stones, and in carvings. Yggdrasil is the home of the nine worlds of Norse mythology. edit for cleaning up formatting of the pronunciation marks from article messing up. Linked article for details |
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Originally Posted By Cargo: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/206036/2023-09-12_12_49_23-Yggdrasil_the_Norse_-2951118.JPG If you have to re-build the tower, maybe pivot to Yggrasil -Tree of Life Yggdrasil, the Nordic tree of life, is one of the most important Norse mythology symbols. In addition to these poetic references, there are early runic and artistic depictions of what anthropologists believe is Yggdrasil in tapestries, on rune stones, and in carvings. Yggdrasil is the home of the nine worlds of Norse mythology. edit for cleaning up formatting of the pronunciation marks from article messing up. Linked article for details View Quote We might be able to incorporate that into the project. Thanks for posting it. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: I think you guys do this on purpose. Where were you when I posted this pic? Little too late now. I think we are going to have to live with them. https://i.imgur.com/URR74Jd.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: guns, a tower that narrow is likely all staircase from bottom to top, so your arrow slits in the tower itself up until the top floor are not on floors themselves, but are openings on the staircase - so as the staircase goes up, the arrow slits rotate around the tower in a spiral pattern, the same as the staircase. Staircases were typically counter-clockwise from the bottom, to allow the defenders to better use swords and pikes in their right hands, while forcing the attackers to use their left. I think you guys do this on purpose. Where were you when I posted this pic? Little too late now. I think we are going to have to live with them. https://i.imgur.com/URR74Jd.jpg Lol. Didn't think about it til I saw the windows. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Lol. Didn't think about it til I saw the windows. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: guns, a tower that narrow is likely all staircase from bottom to top, so your arrow slits in the tower itself up until the top floor are not on floors themselves, but are openings on the staircase - so as the staircase goes up, the arrow slits rotate around the tower in a spiral pattern, the same as the staircase. Staircases were typically counter-clockwise from the bottom, to allow the defenders to better use swords and pikes in their right hands, while forcing the attackers to use their left. I think you guys do this on purpose. Where were you when I posted this pic? Little too late now. I think we are going to have to live with them. https://i.imgur.com/URR74Jd.jpg Lol. Didn't think about it til I saw the windows. |
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Dammit - I missed the beginning of this year's thread!
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"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" - Rudyard Kipling
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I really hope that you'll need the details in the link...
https://www.tf.uni-kiel.de/matwis/amat/iss/kap_b/illustr/ib_4_2.html |
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"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" - Rudyard Kipling
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Originally Posted By xanadu: I really hope that you'll need the details in the link... https://www.tf.uni-kiel.de/matwis/amat/iss/kap_b/illustr/ib_4_2.html View Quote Very cool! I'll save that link tomorrow for future reference. |
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Update 9/13
We are getting close to moving to the second stages on several of our projects. Students are excited to be moving on to the next phases. It's also brought up a few questions that we will need to solve. The dragon's head is mostly carved to give us the base. From here we will add more details and start figuring out what kind of skin to put on. We haven't addressed this yet, and I'm not sure what we are going to do. We may have to texture it by hand. Not the end of the world, but it will be labor intensive. Adding a "skin" from something like fake gator skin has been floated, but I think that would end up being cheesy. The next phase for the dragon is legs. We pulled the front legs off to begin there. The tower..... We now have all the windows and arrow slits cut out. We can discuss adding more, but I'm not sure we can still get a spiral look from where we are at. We need to add the top details and have started talking about stones. This was discussed at length today. To make them individually, we would need about 4,320 individual 1x2" stones. Roughly 60 square feet. That is a lot of work to create, dry, fire, paint, glue, and grout around. They are fairly expensive, but kitchen tile grids worked for our Washington Monument. I think we will use this. It will be much faster, give a bit more quality look, and not take too many students to create. The ones I found on amazon are $9.99 a square foot. I couldn't find them anywhere else.. We discussed the plastic peel and stick, but they all seem to be glossy. That won't work. If anyone can find something cheaper, send me the link. This is what we are looking for. Maybe this is too clean/even; looking back at the reference photo on post #1 of this thread? Rough looking, flat/satin....and at least not $20 or $30 a square foot. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HU426LO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3JMQJ2TZNJ5J9&psc=1
We added lights yesterday, and they look pretty cool. The top battlements The land scape tiers are getting a good coat of burlap and will soon be ready for texture. We are almost done with the hull ribs, but we are dealing with trying to attach the ribs next to the steel brackets we created to hold the keel together. That has been a bit of a problem, and we've struggled to get the blocks attached. We have a plan and think we will get close today. It's pretty cool seeing the form come together, and create a hull shape we can live with. CAD is working to get us a 3D printable carving to put on the sides of the keel. We got our Balloon Rally photo up with the others! |
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Guns, I am confident you learned everything you need to know about how to skin a dragon from the Space Shuttle project.
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Originally Posted By HermanSnerd:
In reality, those two hot chicks that you just met that want you to come home with them for "a good time", are merely the bait for the huge guy hiding in the closet wearing a Batman suit. |
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Other options for tile that might work?
Peel and stick. Bigger individual look....much cheaper. Pack of 10ft is $40. Just worried it will look cheesy. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VF4DC11?tag=arfcom00-20 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BB6B1BTP?tag=arfcom00-20 |
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Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44:
Bring it. Our side has a hundred billion bullets. Your side doesn't know which bathroom to piss in. PUPPIES WEBSITE--> www.whereisdude.com |
guns, FW_wife did our fireplace wall above the mantle in those 1x1' stone pieces, looks pretty good. She got em from a builder's surplus supply house.
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Originally Posted By backbencher: guns, don't buy any stone yet. FW_wife has 6 boxes left over... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84655/IMG_20230913_124243_462_jpg-2952313.JPG View Quote That looks good! |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: guns, don't buy any stone yet. FW_wife has 6 boxes left over... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84655/IMG_20230913_124243_462_jpg-2952313.JPG That looks good! Hang on, I have to talk her into it. I might have to make a trip to Wyoming next week. Gas might be cheaper than shipping. Lemme see how much we have, I dunno if we have 60 sq feet. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Hang on, I have to talk her into it. I might have to make a trip to Wyoming next week. Gas might be cheaper than shipping. Lemme see how much we have, I dunno if we have 60 sq feet. View Quote If you don't have the 60 Ft how much is it per box if the vendor has more. I cold throw some bucks your way to purchase more. EBR |
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Originally Posted By EBR666: If you don't have the 60 Ft how much is it per box if the vendor has more. I cold throw some bucks your way to purchase more. EBR View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By EBR666: Originally Posted By backbencher: Hang on, I have to talk her into it. I might have to make a trip to Wyoming next week. Gas might be cheaper than shipping. Lemme see how much we have, I dunno if we have 60 sq feet. If you don't have the 60 Ft how much is it per box if the vendor has more. I cold throw some bucks your way to purchase more. EBR Or, hit me with a link to that product. I showed it to the kids and they think that looks better than the one from Amazon. |
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That's the problem - got em from a builder' surplus supply.
ETA: She found a link - $800 for 60 sq feet. She's looking for a cheaper source, she doesn't want to give up the boxes in the garage. |
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Best she's been able to find:
https://mosaictileoutlet.com/products/mto0217-classic-linear-brown-stone-mosaic-tile# Anyone know where guns can find it for less? |
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How about doing a "cut stucco" finish?
Wrap the tower with stucco mesh, apply the stucco (or similar) and cut the stone pattern in it before it dries. You will need to do a lighter undercoat first in order to get the mortar/grout line look. ETA: you could 3D print a few stone patterns to press into the stucco in a random order. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: That's the problem - got em from a builder' surplus supply. ETA: She found a link - $800 for 60 sq feet. She's looking for a cheaper source, she doesn't want to give up the boxes in the garage. View Quote Not surprised the least with the price. I think we were close to $1000 for the Washington Monument sculpture when it was all said and done. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Best she's been able to find: https://mosaictileoutlet.com/products/mto0217-classic-linear-brown-stone-mosaic-tile# Anyone know where guns can find it for less? View Quote I like that this is peel and stick. Is this what your wife has also? Did it go on pretty easily; clean? |
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Originally Posted By guns762: I like that this is peel and stick. Is this what your wife has also? Did it go on pretty easily; clean? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: Best she's been able to find: https://mosaictileoutlet.com/products/mto0217-classic-linear-brown-stone-mosaic-tile# Anyone know where guns can find it for less? I like that this is peel and stick. Is this what your wife has also? Did it go on pretty easily; clean? Went on easily enough that she was able to put it on 20 feet in the air. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Not surprised the least with the price. I think we were close to $1000 for the Washington Monument sculpture when it was all said and done. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: That's the problem - got em from a builder' surplus supply. ETA: She found a link - $800 for 60 sq feet. She's looking for a cheaper source, she doesn't want to give up the boxes in the garage. Not surprised the least with the price. I think we were close to $1000 for the Washington Monument sculpture when it was all said and done. That link has it for $10.22 a sqft on sale now. That's $613 for the 60 feet, free shipping. I'll pitch $100 if some of you others jump on the wagon to help out. EBR |
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: I'll cover $100 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: Originally Posted By EBR666: That link has it for $10.22 a sqft on sale now. That's $613 for the 60 feet, free shipping. I'll pitch $100 if some of you others jump on the wagon to help out. EBR You guys don't need to do that. We can cover it. You can hold off till we hit the fundraiser. |
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Originally Posted By EBR666: That link has it for $10.22 a sqft on sale now. That's $613 for the 60 feet, free shipping. I'll pitch $100 if some of you others jump on the wagon to help out. EBR View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By EBR666: Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: That's the problem - got em from a builder' surplus supply. ETA: She found a link - $800 for 60 sq feet. She's looking for a cheaper source, she doesn't want to give up the boxes in the garage. Not surprised the least with the price. I think we were close to $1000 for the Washington Monument sculpture when it was all said and done. That link has it for $10.22 a sqft on sale now. That's $613 for the 60 feet, free shipping. I'll pitch $100 if some of you others jump on the wagon to help out. EBR |
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“So, never give up. Continue to fight. You’ll either find a win here and there, or you’ll die fighting. I can accept either of those out comes”- March 31st, 2020 - Until Valhalla
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Went on easily enough that she was able to put it on 20 feet in the air. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: Best she's been able to find: https://mosaictileoutlet.com/products/mto0217-classic-linear-brown-stone-mosaic-tile# Anyone know where guns can find it for less? I like that this is peel and stick. Is this what your wife has also? Did it go on pretty easily; clean? Went on easily enough that she was able to put it on 20 feet in the air. Does it cut with a utility knife, or is a saw needed? |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Does it cut with a utility knife, or is a saw needed? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: Best she's been able to find: https://mosaictileoutlet.com/products/mto0217-classic-linear-brown-stone-mosaic-tile# Anyone know where guns can find it for less? I like that this is peel and stick. Is this what your wife has also? Did it go on pretty easily; clean? Went on easily enough that she was able to put it on 20 feet in the air. Does it cut with a utility knife, or is a saw needed? She says it's just a mesh that can be cut w/ scissors. |
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Guns says they can cover the tile cost. I'm going to send in the $100 anyway. Committing now would be more effective than waiting for the fund raiser in my opinion. I'll still help with the fund raiser later.
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Originally Posted By backbencher: She says it's just a mesh that can be cut w/ scissors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: Best she's been able to find: https://mosaictileoutlet.com/products/mto0217-classic-linear-brown-stone-mosaic-tile# Anyone know where guns can find it for less? I like that this is peel and stick. Is this what your wife has also? Did it go on pretty easily; clean? Went on easily enough that she was able to put it on 20 feet in the air. Does it cut with a utility knife, or is a saw needed? She says it's just a mesh that can be cut w/ scissors. Cool. Sounds perfect for us. I appreciate you finding the link. |
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Originally Posted By EBR666: Guns says they can cover the tile cost. I'm going to send in the $100 anyway. Committing now would be more effective than waiting for the fund raiser in my opinion. I'll still help with the fund raiser later. EBR View Quote I appreciate that EBR. You are always so generous to us. |
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These projects are absolutely bonkers. Love these build threads.
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Theme music for the Dragon Eyes:
Dark Eyes Caravelli - Nathalie / Dark Eyes |
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
Originally Posted By HermanSnerd:
In reality, those two hot chicks that you just met that want you to come home with them for "a good time", are merely the bait for the huge guy hiding in the closet wearing a Batman suit. |
A smart man only believes half of what he hears, a wise man knows which half.
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
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