User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 10/23/2020 7:12:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean that’s base f150 xlt 2.7 after incentives territory Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Key prices: 2.7L EcoBoost- $1,895 Sasquatch Package- $4,995 If you add the Samsquanch package, the 2.7, and a hard top to a four door base model Bronco, the resulting MSRP is $43,075. Anyway... have fun. Damn. That's nicely appointed F150 territory there. You mean that’s base f150 xlt 2.7 after incentives territory If I met a genie one of my wishes would be that people who have not a single fucking clue about what they're talking about, especially when it comes to new truck pricing, would contract some disease where their fingers fell off and they couldn't post retarded bullshit on the internet |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2020 7:12:13 PM EDT
[#2]
I have a new truck with everything I wanted. I'm too old to be buying shit to try and look cool. No amount of cash or bling is gonna make me 25 again. I'm thankful I'm in good health and have what I have. Good on any young folks who can cruise in one of those. That would be badass driving to the beach with some blonde companions for company
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2020 7:23:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I met a genie one of my wishes would be that people who have not a single fucking clue about what they're talking about, especially when it comes to new truck pricing, would contract some disease where their fingers fell off and they couldn't post retarded bullshit on the internet Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Key prices: 2.7L EcoBoost- $1,895 Sasquatch Package- $4,995 If you add the Samsquanch package, the 2.7, and a hard top to a four door base model Bronco, the resulting MSRP is $43,075. Anyway... have fun. Damn. That's nicely appointed F150 territory there. You mean that’s base f150 xlt 2.7 after incentives territory If I met a genie one of my wishes would be that people who have not a single fucking clue about what they're talking about, especially when it comes to new truck pricing, would contract some disease where their fingers fell off and they couldn't post retarded bullshit on the internet Yeah, that seems cheap. My new F150 was $58k |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2020 7:26:08 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, that seems cheap. My new F150 was $58k Did you get an xlt with the 2.7? Pay sticker price? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2020 9:38:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Ive got a reservation.
Looking at 4dr big bend Area 51 color Hard top 2.7 EB Mid package 12” sync 4 Rear locker |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2020 10:58:16 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2021-Jeep-Wrangler-V8-2.jpg There's a 450hp SRT 6.4L V8 Wrangler coming  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm up to about $55,000 to get close t what I want...  Looks like I will be keeping the Wrangler a bit longer. https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2021-Jeep-Wrangler-V8-2.jpg There's a 450hp SRT 6.4L V8 Wrangler coming LOL SRT. FCA is going to make good margins on the handful of those they sell for $65k or something while the Bronco’s 2.7 will have the Wrangler outclassed everywhere from $35k-$50k. They need a response to the 2.7 that’s affordable and available in every trim. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2020 11:01:59 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bronco was always expensive. In 1996 (last year for the Bronco) the Eddie Bauer bronco was over $40,000 - that's around $65k+ in 2020 dollars. The base model Bronco was about 50% more than the similarly equipped F150 that it was based on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn. That's nicely appointed F150 territory there. Bronco was always expensive. In 1996 (last year for the Bronco) the Eddie Bauer bronco was over $40,000 - that's around $65k+ in 2020 dollars. The base model Bronco was about 50% more than the similarly equipped F150 that it was based on. i would pay $65k for a new bronco if they still made the 90s FSB. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2020 11:08:07 PM EDT
[#8]
 This is what the bronco reminds me of. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2020 11:20:03 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't worry I bet they won't sell below MSRP for the first 18 months This guy gets it. Good luck getting any discounts. Actually....good luck seeing one on a dealer lot that isn't sold until this time next year. Last I saw Ford had like 180,000 reservations. They are expecting a 75% take rate on those reservations. So figure 120,000 sold units have to be produced before the lot ones get built. That's got to be over first year production and probably most of 2022 production. It will be sticker or more for the first year at least. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2020 11:30:13 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. That's nicely appointed F150 territory there. 43k for a nicely equipped F-150? Lol It’s not 2000 anymore. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 8:00:59 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 4 door Bronco? Dafuq? Yup, Ford fucked up bigly with this turd, and I’m a diehard Ford guy. No V-8 option. No solid front axle. No manual hubs. Too many electronic doo dads. Hard pass. I’m actively searching out a 92-96 Bronco to replace my long gone ‘94. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 8:05:17 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never really wanted a new Jeep, but I'm really tempted by this Bronco. Off to cyber-build one... This. We were talking about possibly getting one next year for a "weekend" vehicle as we both drive pickup trucks full of tools, equipment etc |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 8:07:14 AM EDT
[#13]
I’d be the base model buyer but time will tell. Wife’s been talking about me getting a new 4x4 in the next couple years. Haven’t had a payment in a loooooong time. I’m conflicted. I’ve fell in love with the Gladiator but I hate Chrysler at the same time and don’t trust them. Bronco is appealing but I question long term reliability there too. Truck wise I’m a Toyota guy and it’s really all I have full faith in. But I’m kinda meh on the taco and 4Runner. Is it so much to ask for a 70 series here....
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 8:13:49 AM EDT
[#14]
Finally got some time to play with this this morning.
Built out a 4 door badlands equivalent to a loaded up 4 door Rubi Bronco is right in line price-wise, with a couple of extra tricks that jeep doesn't have yet like the 35's, 10 speed, wireless charging, 360 camera, boosti boi V6, etc. Only weird thing I encountered was with the hardtop it wouldn't allow me to select a hardtop liner with the 2.7, required a switch back to 2.3. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 8:47:50 AM EDT
[#15]
Why would they not offer that smaller Powerstroke in these? It would still meet the super sweet emissions requirements and get all of the diesel guys rock hard. I would snatch up the first one with a 5.0L myself. Make it a real Bronco.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 8:56:08 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just played around with it, the Wildtrak with a few desirable options MSRP came up to $54K. That is too much for what it is IMO. Keep in mind Ford wants a big share of the Jeep market, so they'll probably be heavily incentivized to get people in the door when they hit the dealer's lots. That MSRP will probably have 10k off the top before haggling. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 9:01:22 AM EDT
[#17]
I can say that the 2.7 ecoboost is a beast in my 2019 F150. I can only how it will perform in the Bronco
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 10:20:57 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can say that the 2.7 ecoboost is a beast in my 2019 F150. I can only how it will perform in the Bronco High-Output 3.5L V6 EcoBoost® Engine in the Warthog wouldn't be too shabby either... |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 10:59:24 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 4 door Bronco? Dafuq? Uhh... yes? They want to sell vehicles. The take rate on the 2 door is going to be well under 20% and perhaps under 10%. Outside of sports cars, people don't really buy 2 door anything anymore. I'm actually surprised they're even offering a 2 door at all. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 11:02:20 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep in mind Ford wants a big share of the Jeep market, so they'll probably be heavily incentivized to get people in the door when they hit the dealer's lots. That MSRP will probably have 10k off the top before haggling. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just played around with it, the Wildtrak with a few desirable options MSRP came up to $54K. That is too much for what it is IMO. Keep in mind Ford wants a big share of the Jeep market, so they'll probably be heavily incentivized to get people in the door when they hit the dealer's lots. That MSRP will probably have 10k off the top before haggling. LOL. Those are F-150 incentives, and I'm not sure you can even get those on the F-150 right now with the generational change. There's HUGE demand for the Bronco, and Ford can only build so many units per month. There's not going to be big incentives for a while until one side of that equation changes. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:13:24 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't worry I bet they won't sell below MSRP for the first 18 months Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn. That's nicely appointed F150 territory there. Don't worry I bet they won't sell below MSRP for the first 18 months Jeep might try to compete...but Toyota will probably raise prices just in spite. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:16:44 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doing a 4 door Black Diamond with V6/auto, mid, hard top and Sasquatch in Cactus Gray. It looks like itll be around $46k from Stephens Auto at -1000 invoice and invoice pricing on options. We aren't too far from Granger but to get the Oct discount I'd have to cancel my current reservation (even though Ford allows me one change so I could change to Granger and maintain my place in line...but nope.) They wrote that even if you have a current reservation with them to get the Oct discount you have to cancel your reservation with them and put in another one...losing your place in line... Who knows how long that would take to see your vehicle... |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:30:39 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally got some time to play with this this morning. Built out a 4 door badlands equivalent to a loaded up 4 door Rubi Bronco is right in line price-wise, with a couple of extra tricks that jeep doesn't have yet like the 35's, 10 speed, wireless charging, 360 camera, boosti boi V6, etc. Only weird thing I encountered was with the hardtop it wouldn't allow me to select a hardtop liner with the 2.7, required a switch back to 2.3. Yeah, add a roof rack of any type and it makes you switch to 2.3. I would really need to test drive one before buying but it is fun to use the configuration tool just to see. I doubt I will end up with one just because I am sure it will be so limited for the next 2 years that I won't want to pay over MSRP for something configured less than what I would want. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:30:51 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup, Ford fucked up bigly with this turd, and I’m a diehard Ford guy. No V-8 option. No solid front axle. No manual hubs. Too many electronic doo dads. Hard pass. I’m actively searching out a 92-96 Bronco to replace my long gone ‘94. Secretly, there is a huge demand for manual hubs. Also vacuum operated wipers. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:31:54 PM EDT
[#25]
Dial fuckin shifter? That just soured the deal. Late.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:38:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dial fuckin shifter? That just soured the deal. Late. Still has a neutral position on the dial. I agree, give me a physical shifter, but it’s not like electronic ones aren’t robust, and if it fails on the trail just take off the shift motor and turn it manually |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:39:10 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Secretly, there is a huge demand for manual hubs. Also vacuum operated wipers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yup, Ford fucked up bigly with this turd, and I’m a diehard Ford guy. No V-8 option. No solid front axle. No manual hubs. Too many electronic doo dads. Hard pass. I’m actively searching out a 92-96 Bronco to replace my long gone ‘94. Secretly, there is a huge demand for manual hubs. Also vacuum operated wipers. Snort Although I could see manual hubs returning, get better gas mileage |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:44:02 PM EDT
[#28]
So... the four door Bronco that Ford was touting outside their plant this past summer was a fucking lie. No 35" T/A tires w/ Bead-locked wheels (matte black) are available under any package/trim.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:48:15 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So... the four door Bronco that Ford was touting outside their plant this past summer was a fucking lie. No 35" T/A tires w/ Bead-locked wheels (matte black) are available under any package/trim. 35s and beadlock capable wheels are available on every trim, that's what the Sasquatch package is 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:50:30 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 35s and beadlock capable wheels are available on every trim, that's what the Sasquatch package is T/A old boy. Not Mud Terrains..
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:52:19 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So... the four door Bronco that Ford was touting outside their plant this past summer was a fucking lie. No 35" T/A tires w/ Bead-locked wheels (matte black) are available under any package/trim. Wat?  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:53:41 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: T/A old boy. Not Mud Terrains.. Oh jesus. Splitting hairs |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:57:49 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh jesus. Splitting hairs So first we have one person who obviously lacks reading comprehension skills, and another that does as well, including possessing an inclination to state in a public forum there's a hair's difference between all terrain and mud terrain tires? Holy fucking Christ.. Scares me that people like that are allowed to even look at offroad vehicles. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 12:59:40 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So first we have one person who obviously lacks reading comprehension skills, and another that does as well, including possessing an inclination to state in a public forum there's a hair's difference between all terrain and mud terrain tires? Holy fucking Christ.. Scares me that people like that on allowed to even look at offroad vehicles. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh jesus. Splitting hairs So first we have one person who obviously lacks reading comprehension skills, and another that does as well, including possessing an inclination to state in a public forum there's a hair's difference between all terrain and mud terrain tires? Holy fucking Christ.. Scares me that people like that on allowed to even look at offroad vehicles. Says the guy who thinks "T/A" means it's an all-terrain tire  
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:01:11 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Says the guy who thinks "T/A" means it's an all-terrain tire https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58021/FE2D11A5-8D66-4078-826A-00F8526825B2-1651624.png  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:02:34 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Says the guy who thinks "T/A" means it's an all-terrain tire https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58021/FE2D11A5-8D66-4078-826A-00F8526825B2-1651624.png Well, I made mistake of not stating all terrains at first. Even though the specific vehicle I mentioned is pictured with KO2s. But who's the even bigger moron that thinks there's barely a difference between those and M/Ts? 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:06:39 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, I made mistake of not stating all terrains at first. Even though the specific vehicle I mentioned is pictured with KO2s. But who's the even bigger moron that thinks there's barely a difference between those and M/Ts? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Says the guy who thinks "T/A" means it's an all-terrain tire https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58021/FE2D11A5-8D66-4078-826A-00F8526825B2-1651624.png Well, I made mistake of not stating all terrains at first. Even though the specific vehicle I mentioned is pictured with KO2s. But who's the even bigger moron that thinks there's barely a difference between those and M/Ts? Nobody said there's "barely a difference" between all-terrain tires and mud-terrain tires. He was referring to your comments about the type of tire shown on a pre-production concept vehicle and what is actually being offered by the manufacturer. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:11:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody said there's "barely a difference" between all-terrain tires and mud-terrain tires. He was referring to your comments about the type of tire shown on a pre-production concept vehicle and what is actually being offered by the manufacturer. Exactly. If his biggest gripe is that they originally showed 35" AT tires but the production has 35" MT I don't know what to say. For about a grand, they could be switched out the day you buy it, and sell the original tires for nearly full price. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:13:26 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. If his biggest gripe is that they originally showed 35" AT tires but the production has 35" MT I don't know what to say. For about a grand, they could be switched out the day you buy it, and sell the original tires for nearly full price. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nobody said there's "barely a difference" between all-terrain tires and mud-terrain tires. He was referring to your comments about the type of tire shown on a pre-production concept vehicle and what is actually being offered by the manufacturer. Exactly. If his biggest gripe is that they originally showed 35" AT tires but the production has 35" MT I don't know what to say. For about a grand, they could be switched out the day you buy it, and sell the original tires for nearly full price. If it's the concept I'm thinking of it wasn't even on OEM wheels, it was on Fifteen52 Turbomac HD wheels that aren't beadlocks or beadlock-capable like the production models will have. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:16:28 PM EDT
[#40]
I'm just jealous that my wife is going to buy a Bronco with 35" tires factory, when I was stuck with 33s on my 18 Rubicon.
And she is getting a two door while I'm driving the "family wagon" four door
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:18:19 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just jealous that my wife is going to buy a Bronco with 35" tires factory, when I was stuck with 33s on my 18 Rubicon. And she is getting a two door while I'm driving the "family wagon" four door I'm going to ride out the initial hysteria in my 4Runner and will trade it for a 2dr Basequatch (apologies to everyone who wanted me to buy a boomer truck  ), at which point I will begin convincing the wife to trade her Tiguan for a 4dr 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:28:49 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to ride out the initial hysteria in my 4Runner and will trade it for a 2dr Basequatch (apologies to everyone who wanted me to buy a boomer truck ), at which point I will begin convincing the wife to trade her Tiguan for a 4dr Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm just jealous that my wife is going to buy a Bronco with 35" tires factory, when I was stuck with 33s on my 18 Rubicon. And she is getting a two door while I'm driving the "family wagon" four door I'm going to ride out the initial hysteria in my 4Runner and will trade it for a 2dr Basequatch (apologies to everyone who wanted me to buy a boomer truck ), at which point I will begin convincing the wife to trade her Tiguan for a 4dr I think I’ll be ditching my 4runner and going with a Sasquatch badlands order. Jeep guy you know you can fit 35s on a stock rubicon without issue right? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:29:44 PM EDT
[#43]
I wonder how these will drive/ride on the highway. I've read that supposedly the JL was really improved over the JK in that regard. Like the Wranglers, I suspect most of these will ultimately live most their lives on pavement.
I'm a dyed in the wool FCA fan, and consider competition to be a good thing. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:45:10 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how these will drive/ride on the highway. I've read that supposedly the JL was really improved over the JK in that regard. Like the Wranglers, I suspect most of these will ultimately live most their lives on pavement. I'm a dyed in the wool FCA fan, and consider competition to be a good thing. I haven't ridden in a JL, so I cannot comment, but the 4-door JK rides decently on the highway. I have a ,'17 JKUR and part of my daily commute is highway. I have also taken it on several 8+ hour interstate highway trips without any issue. It doesn't ride like a Cadillac, but it isn't bad at all. I follow these Bronco threads because I think it is a cool vehicle and find it all very interesting. I love my Jeep, and hope that Ford sells tons of these Broncos so that Jeep will have to improve its offerings. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:46:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't ridden in a JL, so I cannot comment, but the 4-door JK rides decently on the highway. I have a ,'17 JKUR and part of my daily commute is highway. I have also taken it on several 8+ hour interstate highway trips without any issue. It doesn't ride like a Cadillac, but it isn't bad at all. I follow these Bronco threads because I think it is a cool vehicle and find it all very interesting. I love my Jeep, and hope that Ford sells tons of these Broncos so that Jeep will have to improve its offerings. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wonder how these will drive/ride on the highway. I've read that supposedly the JL was really improved over the JK in that regard. Like the Wranglers, I suspect most of these will ultimately live most their lives on pavement. I'm a dyed in the wool FCA fan, and consider competition to be a good thing. I haven't ridden in a JL, so I cannot comment, but the 4-door JK rides decently on the highway. I have a ,'17 JKUR and part of my daily commute is highway. I have also taken it on several 8+ hour interstate highway trips without any issue. It doesn't ride like a Cadillac, but it isn't bad at all. I follow these Bronco threads because I think it is a cool vehicle and find it all very interesting. I love my Jeep, and hope that Ford sells tons of these Broncos so that Jeep will have to improve its offerings. Jeep will do something to improve, Toyota will add another off the shelf roof-rack and cooler. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:50:11 PM EDT
[#46]
the Base 2 door comes with 4.46 Rear Axle Final Drive Ratio.
is that good? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:52:13 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how these will drive/ride on the highway. If they aren't a capable highway vehicle sales will suffer. Hopefully the removable top and doors don't lead to lots of wind noise and leaks. To sell lots you can't rely on off road minded sales. Its a small niche market. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:53:38 PM EDT
[#48]
In before death wobble
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:54:17 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In before death wobble Has someone done a SAS already? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2020 1:54:32 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jeep will do something to improve, Toyota will add another off the shelf roof-rack and cooler.  You give them too much credit. It will be another exclusive paint code and even blacker badges at best. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
