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I’m not arguing with anyone’s preference or saying I know anything... Just took several holiday guests for hot laps. The PDK is the most incredible part of the 911. I feel like it knows what I want before I know I want it. In sports plus it redlines every up shift if you’re on it. It downshifts exactly when it should. I may be the weird one, don’t see myself using paddles or manual shift ever. The PDK shifts the car the way I wish I could. |
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Originally Posted By vetmotox: I’m not arguing with anyone’s preference or saying I know anything... Just took several holiday guests for hot laps. The PDK is the most incredible part of the 911. I feel like it knows what I want before I know I want it. In sports plus it redlines every up shift if you’re on it. It downshifts exactly when it should. I may be the weird one, don’t see myself using paddles or manual shift ever. The PDK shifts the car the way I wish I could. Disturbingly efficient Germans will do that. PDK is tits no doubt. But there's so much more to cars than numbers on a page, and efficiency at all costs. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Disturbingly efficient Germans will do that. PDK is tits no doubt. But there's so much more to cars than numbers on a page, and efficiency at all costs. Agreed. At 54, maybe I just all out of shifts to give... lol |
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Is everyone spending their MVIS money before the buyout? I must have missed the memo. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By CajunMojo: Is everyone spending their MVIS money before the buyout? I must have missed the memo. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59505/unnamed_jpg-1892019.JPG Soon, Padawan.... 
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Originally Posted By GoBlue: Both of mine https://i.postimg.cc/L4r11QZN/5-BC01-B4-E-DD2-C-46-E0-A8-D6-1-B0-FE9366-EF9.jpg That’s an odd pair. I always wonder, how a 911 isn’t first. |
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Originally Posted By vetmotox: That’s an odd pair. I always wonder, how a 911 isn’t first. Originally Posted By vetmotox: Originally Posted By GoBlue: Both of mine That’s an odd pair. I always wonder, how a 911 isn’t first. Macan Turbo was first. Panamera Turbo S if for the wife, such an awesome car. The Macan is out as soon as I find a 992 or can get an allocation.... Trying hard. |
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Originally Posted By GoBlue: Macan Turbo was first. Panamera Turbo S if for the wife, such an awesome car. The Macan is out as soon as I find a 992 or can get an allocation.... Trying hard. Originally Posted By GoBlue: Originally Posted By vetmotox: Originally Posted By GoBlue: Both of mine That’s an odd pair. I always wonder, how a 911 isn’t first. Macan Turbo was first. Panamera Turbo S if for the wife, such an awesome car. The Macan is out as soon as I find a 992 or can get an allocation.... Trying hard. Panamera Turbo S is an absolutely insane car!  |
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Originally Posted By GoBlue: Macan Turbo was first. Panamera Turbo S if for the wife, such an awesome car. The Macan is out as soon as I find a 992 or can get an allocation.... Trying hard. Originally Posted By GoBlue: Originally Posted By vetmotox: Originally Posted By GoBlue: Both of mine That’s an odd pair. I always wonder, how a 911 isn’t first. Macan Turbo was first. Panamera Turbo S if for the wife, such an awesome car. The Macan is out as soon as I find a 992 or can get an allocation.... Trying hard. 992 ... Carrera? I can give you my guy’s info. |
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Originally Posted By GoBlue: Thanks DJ. I’ll call him first thing Monday. Please send. Originally Posted By GoBlue: Originally Posted By D_J: 992 ... Carrera? I can give you my guy’s info. Thanks DJ. I’ll call him first thing Monday. Please send. IM sent. He’s off Mondays and works Tu-Sa, but you can shoot him an email letting him know you’ll call Tues. PS - tell him I said to quit changing his last name.  He’ll know what you’re talking about.
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One buddy has winter wheels and tires for his GT4 and R8. He dailies a Macan but he still likes to have fun in the winter. He sold his 599 last year and got a Turbo S. The Turbo S is his first non-manual - he's pretty happy with the PDK. He did ask the dealer about winter wheels and tires - They quoted him $9000.
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Originally Posted By OneRanger: My 997 TT https://i.imgur.com/DOUSmq6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NxyQcnG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/krpa7O9.jpg That's super nice. 
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Originally Posted By Lost-Drive-In: One buddy has winter wheels and tires for his GT4 and R8. He dailies a Macan but he still likes to have fun in the winter. He sold his 599 last year and got a Turbo S. The Turbo S is his first non-manual - he's pretty happy with the PDK. He did ask the dealer about winter wheels and tires - They quoted him $9000. My wife and I decided to get knock-off wheels and good winter tires from Tire Rack. They made a set of wheels for Porsche that look like an actual Porsche wheel, and had really good reviews. We saved a LOT of money. 
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Originally Posted By Lost-Drive-In: One buddy has winter wheels and tires for his GT4 and R8. He dailies a Macan but he still likes to have fun in the winter. He sold his 599 last year and got a Turbo S. The Turbo S is his first non-manual - he's pretty happy with the PDK. He did ask the dealer about winter wheels and tires - They quoted him $9000. He sounds like my kind of guy. Not many things are more fun than a 911 in the snow. I feel bad for you guys stuck in warm climate or where they use salt on the roads. I think my winter wheels and tires cost me about $600 total. 
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Back to the summer tires/wheels for my wife: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/767C89FB-7AC6-490C-9AD9-7F95669916B9-1891546.jpg Does your 911 have centerlock nuts? |
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Originally Posted By OneRanger: My 997 TT https://i.imgur.com/DOUSmq6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NxyQcnG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/krpa7O9.jpg That’s hot. Mod list? |
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Originally Posted By Mblades: He sounds like my kind of guy. Not many things are more fun than a 911 in the snow. I feel bad for you guys stuck in warm climate or where they use salt on the roads. I think my winter wheels and tires cost me about $600 total. https://i.imgur.com/vGRXHG7.jpg Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By Lost-Drive-In: One buddy has winter wheels and tires for his GT4 and R8. He dailies a Macan but he still likes to have fun in the winter. He sold his 599 last year and got a Turbo S. The Turbo S is his first non-manual - he's pretty happy with the PDK. He did ask the dealer about winter wheels and tires - They quoted him $9000. He sounds like my kind of guy. Not many things are more fun than a 911 in the snow. I feel bad for you guys stuck in warm climate or where they use salt on the roads. I think my winter wheels and tires cost me about $600 total. https://i.imgur.com/vGRXHG7.jpg This shit right here is part of why I absolutely love the 911. Do you see Vettes set up for winter? Ferarris? Nope. Do you see rally set up Vettes? Nope. |
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I'm stacked pretty deep in 22 too, but I'm like a dragon and want to accumulate more of what other people covet.
I'm stacked pretty deep in 22 too, but I'm like a dragon and want to accumulate more of what other people covet.
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Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Does your 911 have centerlock nuts? Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Back to the summer tires/wheels for my wife: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/767C89FB-7AC6-490C-9AD9-7F95669916B9-1891546.jpg Does your 911 have centerlock nuts? Yep.
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Was behind a 997.2 Carrera 4S this morning on a twisty country road. Such a good looking car. I love that any Porsche, from any era, is a gorgeous example of timeless design. I could barely keep up in my Audi and he wasn’t even trying
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Yep. Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Back to the summer tires/wheels for my wife: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/767C89FB-7AC6-490C-9AD9-7F95669916B9-1891546.jpg Does your 911 have centerlock nuts? Yep. Nuts Do you change your 911’s tyres yourself as well?
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Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Nuts Do you change your 911’s tyres yourself as well?Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Back to the summer tires/wheels for my wife: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/767C89FB-7AC6-490C-9AD9-7F95669916B9-1891546.jpg Does your 911 have centerlock nuts? Yep. Nuts Do you change your 911’s tyres yourself as well?Nope. I don’t even have the tool to remove the wheels.  I figure that, since there’s no spare anyway, if I get any kind of tire or wheel failure, it’s going to require a two truck regardless. We also decided not to get the extra set of winter wheels/tires for the 911, since we kept my 4wd SUV when I got the 911. So the 911 is my daily driver in the winter, EXCEPT for the few days when it’s really snowy or salty, and then I take the SUV. So as a result, it didn’t seem worth it to spend all the money on the winter wheels, and I have no need to ever take the wheels off myself. |
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Originally Posted By JPH2: For those that bought new from a dealer, can you negotiate on the price or is it more this what the sticker says that's what you're paying? If you are buying off a lot, there’s definitely room to negotiate. Depending on the market and model, I’d say easily 5%. If you are factory ordering, less so. I still didn’t pay MSRP, so even on a custom factory order, there’s some wiggle room ... just not as much as if you are buying out of their inventory. That said, I do not have as much experience buying Porsches as others in this thread. |
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Originally Posted By GoBlue: Dealers are not negotiating on 911s now. It’s MSRP or nothing... probably nothing since there are no 911s to sell. Really? Wow. I had no idea. ETA: Now I feel better about the measly 3% I got off my factory order. |
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Nope. I don’t even have the tool to remove the wheels. I figure that, since there’s no spare anyway, if I get any kind of tire or wheel failure, it’s going to require a two truck regardless. We also decided not to get the extra set of winter wheels/tires for the 911, since we kept my 4wd SUV when I got the 911. So the 911 is my daily driver in the winter, EXCEPT for the few days when it’s really snowy or salty, and then I take the SUV. So as a result, it didn’t seem worth it to spend all the money on the winter wheels, and I have no need to ever take the wheels off myself. Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Back to the summer tires/wheels for my wife: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/767C89FB-7AC6-490C-9AD9-7F95669916B9-1891546.jpg Does your 911 have centerlock nuts? Yep. Nuts Do you change your 911’s tyres yourself as well?Nope. I don’t even have the tool to remove the wheels. I figure that, since there’s no spare anyway, if I get any kind of tire or wheel failure, it’s going to require a two truck regardless. We also decided not to get the extra set of winter wheels/tires for the 911, since we kept my 4wd SUV when I got the 911. So the 911 is my daily driver in the winter, EXCEPT for the few days when it’s really snowy or salty, and then I take the SUV. So as a result, it didn’t seem worth it to spend all the money on the winter wheels, and I have no need to ever take the wheels off myself. This is something that I might try to do regarding finding a balance between my anxiety of ruining a good looking car (is that a stone chip?! I'm selling the car! ) and be able to daily drive the thing like it was supposed to be. I'm probably going to sell the Audi and buy an old SUV that I don't care for, and use it for when the roads are crap. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: This shit right here is part of why I absolutely love the 911. Do you see Vettes set up for winter? Ferarris? Nope. Do you see rally set up Vettes? Nope. Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By Lost-Drive-In: One buddy has winter wheels and tires for his GT4 and R8. He dailies a Macan but he still likes to have fun in the winter. He sold his 599 last year and got a Turbo S. The Turbo S is his first non-manual - he's pretty happy with the PDK. He did ask the dealer about winter wheels and tires - They quoted him $9000. He sounds like my kind of guy. Not many things are more fun than a 911 in the snow. I feel bad for you guys stuck in warm climate or where they use salt on the roads. I think my winter wheels and tires cost me about $600 total. https://i.imgur.com/vGRXHG7.jpg This shit right here is part of why I absolutely love the 911. Do you see Vettes set up for winter? Ferarris? Nope. Do you see rally set up Vettes? Nope. Agreed. The versatile of a 911 is hard to beat. If I was a British aristocrat, this is how I’d spend my peasants money  Tuthill Porsche on the East African Safari Classic Rally: FULL MOVIE |
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: You can still do that with the PDK when you are shifting manually.  The best way to think about the PDK is that it's an improved manual gearbox that you can shift yourself (without the hassle of an old-school clutch pedal), OR you can allow the sophisticated computer to shift for you. In some ways, the whole "manual vs. automatic" debate doesn't really apply to the PDK. Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By Fantomas: what I like and enjoy about a MT is I can rip the Gears all the way to Redline You can still do that with the PDK when you are shifting manually. The best way to think about the PDK is that it's an improved manual gearbox that you can shift yourself (without the hassle of an old-school clutch pedal), OR you can allow the sophisticated computer to shift for you. In some ways, the whole "manual vs. automatic" debate doesn't really apply to the PDK. Word of caution for your first PDK test drive: Don't pull up to a stop sign on a hill, alone in the car for 5-10 minutes and you think...oh yeah, I read something about pulling on both paddles at the same time..what does that do again??? ugh, car starts to roll backwards when you take your foot off the gas to accelerate away from the sign and nothing happens but rev the engine (pull both paddles at the same time and you take it out of gear)....very embarrassing. New C8 Corvette uses a very similar DCT. I've not driven one, but read comparisons and they function basically the same and the Vette gets very good reviews for its DCT. I believe they used a PDK in their test mules and consider it the gold standard (as they should). |
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Originally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow: Excellent point. I need to find the article from a few years ago when I was looking at a 718 Cayman GTS and trying to decide PDK or not. Described the "how" of the PDK and a lot of the "why". Almost every GTS I could find in stock in the USA were PDK, there were a few MT, but not many. I drove the PDK and totally loved it...and I'm a guy who's been driving MT most of his life and seeked out cars with a MT. I would describe it as an "manual transmission when you want it, otherwise its a freaking amazingly smart & intuitive automated manual when you don't". It is not a traditional automatic at all, read about how it works..two active clutches/shafts..hence the term "Dual Clutch Transmission" by other manufactures. Like DK-Prof and others have said, you can put it in manual mode and run it up and down in the gears yourself all you want...paddles or shifter, just no clutch pedal. The shifts are super fast, super smooth and I don't know what they have programmed into the controller, but its very very "aware" and made nothing but great shifts the times I was driving a number of the Caymans. But very good point about the emotions and engagement...without the clutch pedal you do miss that compared to a MT. Personal preference, been there, done that. Word of caution for your first PDK test drive: Don't pull up to a stop sign on a hill, alone in the car for 5-10 minutes and you think...oh yeah, I read something about pulling on both paddles at the same time..what does that do again??? ugh, car starts to roll backwards when you take your foot off the gas to accelerate away from the sign and nothing happens but rev the engine (pull both paddles at the same time and you take it out of gear)....very embarrassing. New C8 Corvette uses a very similar DCT. I've not driven one, but read comparisons and they function basically the same and the Vette gets very good reviews for its DCT. I believe they used a PDK in their test mules and consider it the gold standard (as they should). Originally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By Fantomas: what I like and enjoy about a MT is I can rip the Gears all the way to Redline You can still do that with the PDK when you are shifting manually. The best way to think about the PDK is that it's an improved manual gearbox that you can shift yourself (without the hassle of an old-school clutch pedal), OR you can allow the sophisticated computer to shift for you. In some ways, the whole "manual vs. automatic" debate doesn't really apply to the PDK. Word of caution for your first PDK test drive: Don't pull up to a stop sign on a hill, alone in the car for 5-10 minutes and you think...oh yeah, I read something about pulling on both paddles at the same time..what does that do again??? ugh, car starts to roll backwards when you take your foot off the gas to accelerate away from the sign and nothing happens but rev the engine (pull both paddles at the same time and you take it out of gear)....very embarrassing. New C8 Corvette uses a very similar DCT. I've not driven one, but read comparisons and they function basically the same and the Vette gets very good reviews for its DCT. I believe they used a PDK in their test mules and consider it the gold standard (as they should). PDK is objectively better than a MT and worlds better than a traditional slush box but there is nothing exciting or engaging about it. Confucius say “When every shift is perfect, no shift is perfect.” |
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Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Ok Porsche Yes. If you don't have a relationship with a dealer already (as in, spent 6+ figures on previous purchases), you're probably not getting a GT allocation right now unless you're willing to pay the $25-40k ADM *and* you can find someone with an allocation not already claimed. New allocations in the fall. |
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As an aside, if anyone was interested in what the “engine bay” looks like when you pop the cover (“back hood”?) Before opening:  After opening - I.e. “let me have a look at the magnificent engine and amazing Germanic engineering”  Reality: “Ve guess you kan be allowed to change the vater ... and PERHAPS you kan add a leetle bit off oil, you dumkopf!” 
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: As an aside, if anyone was interested in what the “engine bay” looks like when you pop the cover (“back hood”?) Before opening: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/DF81E33A-FEFF-4F36-8FCD-1DD56197B254-1896785.jpg After opening - I.e. “let me have a look at the magnificent engine and amazing Germanic engineering” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/C41CF518-9ABF-4B07-B7F2-85FD0AB03339-1896784.jpg Reality: “Ve guess you kan be allowed to change the vater ... and PERHAPS you kan add a leetle bit off oil, you dumkopf!” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/AE108655-E982-434F-A70B-A9820B130E9E-1896783.jpg I mean... that's more than you get with the Taycan. 
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Originally Posted By D_J: Porsche drives new 992 GT3 186 mph for 3100 miles. I'm not sure if my jealousy or boner is larger |
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Originally Posted By D_J: Porsche drives new 992 GT3 186 mph for 3100 miles. Amazing ... but not surprising.
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Originally Posted By D_J: Yes. If you don't have a relationship with a dealer already (as in, spent 6+ figures on previous purchases), you're probably not getting a GT allocation right now unless you're willing to pay the $25-40k ADM *and* you can find someone with an allocation not already claimed. New allocations in the fall. Originally Posted By D_J: Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Ok Porsche Yes. If you don't have a relationship with a dealer already (as in, spent 6+ figures on previous purchases), you're probably not getting a GT allocation right now unless you're willing to pay the $25-40k ADM *and* you can find someone with an allocation not already claimed. New allocations in the fall. Ouch  I’m guessing you don’t need an allocation for used GTs?
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: As an aside, if anyone was interested in what the “engine bay” looks like when you pop the cover (“back hood”?) Before opening: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/DF81E33A-FEFF-4F36-8FCD-1DD56197B254-1896785.jpg After opening - I.e. “let me have a look at the magnificent engine and amazing Germanic engineering” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/C41CF518-9ABF-4B07-B7F2-85FD0AB03339-1896784.jpg Reality: “Ve guess you kan be allowed to change the vater ... and PERHAPS you kan add a leetle bit off oil, you dumkopf!” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/AE108655-E982-434F-A70B-A9820B130E9E-1896783.jpg Is that because you have the motorized spoiler that covers part of the engine or is that the case for every 991? |
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Dealers weren't negotiating when I bought my 987S, but then I did buy it on the spot after a test drive. On the first morning the 987's went on sale and PCNA expected it to be a "demo" car. It even had the "launch package" option spec. Only 1 other guy and his wife drove it before I could get the paperwork signed. The sales manager asked if that was my first Porsche. I said "yes" and he said it won't be my last. ...and he was right. Two years later I ordered a 997S and traded in my last E46 M3. Great car, great color -- "Cobalt Blue" -- the only year it was a standard extra cost color. Ordered it from a dealership in Ohio who couldn't wait for me to get home from a business trip to Atlanta because customers kept trying to buy it off their showroom floor. They trucked it down to Houston, Porsche comes off the truck, BMW goes on. Easy peasy. A few years back I had some major surgeries and climbing in and out of low slung sport cars was pretty uncomfortable, plus I just needed a little more practicality. So, I sold the Boxster and Carrera and ordered an optioned up Macan Turbo. I still have that car and it's still fun to surprise guys in Vipers with it. My brother has a '95 RX-7 and I let him drive it when he was in town house shopping. He called it "easy speed". |
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Originally Posted By RX-78-2: Ok Porsche Not at all, you put down a deposit a few years before the release of the 99x GT3 xx and wait for the call, rinse and repeat. I have never had to wait for an allocation and always got the exact car I wanted. Currently have a pretty decent shed with a 981 GTS, 991.2 GT3 RS, a 720S and WRX STI with Cosworth long block. Have a deposit down on a 992.2 GT3 RS and 718 GT4 RS but will likely pass on the GT4 RS if its not up to snuff in certain areas. Will likely add a 991.2 GT3 Touring to the mix as I don't like the hoods on the 992 GT3/touring (the RS will be bought solely as a tarmac rally car so looks don't matter). I have never paid ADM and wouldn't. Also a lot depends on your relationship with the dealer - generally, they know who the real buyers are - there are lots of tire kickers, particularly in relation to GT division cars. The GT division cars are some of the best drivers cars ever made and all GT cars (with the exception of one) have engines designed for motorsport in terms of materials, pumps etc right down to the dry sumps. Even the PDK gear box was developed for and from motorsport (specifically Le Mans). |