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Posted: 4/22/2020 8:46:12 PM EDT
Awesome photos from these guys as always. Eielson AFB got the first of 54 F-35 fighters yesterday, so things are going to be getting noisy in the future. Here's hoping I get some more photos of them, the ones of the Demo Team last summer were awesome.
All images belong to the USAF and were taken/posted publicly by the Eielson PAO. (Just as a heads up for those guys that constantly annoy me about opsec) https://www.facebook.com/EielsonAirForceBase/ A seven-ship formation of U.S. Air Force F-35A Lightning II, F-22 Raptor fifth-generation fighters, and F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter aircraft, as well as a KC-135 Stratotanker flies over the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex April 21, 2020. The formation depicts Alaska-based U.S. Air Force and Alaska Air National Guard aircraft from both Eielson Air Force Base and Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Jerilyn Quintanilla)                 |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 8:54:53 PM EDT
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Very cool.
Love when the military does low flying training thru our mountains.. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 8:57:07 PM EDT
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I sleep better knowing we have cool shit like that.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 8:59:32 PM EDT
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We live on the flight path of Lockheed Martin and Joint Reserve Base Naval Air Station Fort Worth.
We love to hear the overflights! The F35s are loud AF... but we live to hear them! |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:05:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:09:11 PM EDT
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"All out of missiles, switching to gu...uhh...flares!"
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:11:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "All out of missiles, switching to gu...uhh...flares!" Hey, at the air show last year they did great with the flare and smoke grenades simulating explosions due to obscene fire hazard. I wanted to see a boom though. Smoke grenades and flares weren't as fun. 
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:12:38 PM EDT
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The F-35 and F-16 makes me very proud.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:12:55 PM EDT
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Yaaaaa BABY 
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:14:59 PM EDT
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Nice pics.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:18:47 PM EDT
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Very cool.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:19:11 PM EDT
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Badass pics!
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:20:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The F-35 and F-16 makes me very proud. The 18th Aggressors have some great paint jobs on their jets. Couple guys here on Arf have wrenched on them over the years. I’m just biased since I grew up here/on base. Shame the F-35s won’t get a kickass paint job, but I think people would get bent out of shape if those had commie symbols all over them 
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:20:13 PM EDT
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Peace through superior firepower.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:23:01 PM EDT
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Gorgeous photos. Those folks are essential, I guess.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:24:52 PM EDT
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Awesome photos
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:24:58 PM EDT
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I see they got a couple raptors to
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:25:01 PM EDT
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They don't usually fly with missiles do they?
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:25:19 PM EDT
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Beautiful
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:27:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't usually fly with missiles do they? Yes and No.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:29:07 PM EDT
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awesome, thanks OP
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:33:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see they got a couple raptors to JBER has had raptors for years. They mostly have F-22s and F-15s down there, while interior Alaska is F-16 Aggressors and now F-35s. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:36:45 PM EDT
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Why are AMRAAMs on the F-16 wingtips and Sidewinders on underwing pylons when it used to be the reverse?
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:38:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:38:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are AMRAAMs on the F-16 wingtips and Sidewinders on underwing pylons when it used to be the reverse? Balance/loading is my guess, but the answer is well outside my skill set or expertise @Mach do you know? |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 10:09:14 PM EDT
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Awesome.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 10:16:15 PM EDT
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I’ll have to disagree with you on that one... A standing army is a great threat to Liberty. We’ve been enslaved via confiscatory taxation partially due to the military industrial complex.
https://www.fff.org/2015/03/31/biggest-threat-american-liberty/ Go ahead. Statists can commence with their justifications for an oppressive State... |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 10:29:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ll have to disagree with you on that one... A standing army is a great threat to Liberty. We’ve been enslaved via confiscatory taxation partially due to the military industrial complex. https://www.fff.org/2015/03/31/biggest-threat-american-liberty/ Go ahead. Statists can commence with their justifications for an oppressive State... Weird McBowflex, but ok. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 11:51:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Balance/loading is my guess, but the answer is well outside my skill set or expertise @Mach do you know? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why are AMRAAMs on the F-16 wingtips and Sidewinders on underwing pylons when it used to be the reverse? Balance/loading is my guess, but the answer is well outside my skill set or expertise @Mach do you know? @BullF16 would know for sure but I think the AMRAAM causes less wingtip flutter than the Sidewinder. I also think it might have something to do with the difference between the A & C models past a certain block. |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 12:08:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird McBowflex, but ok. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’ll have to disagree with you on that one... A standing army is a great threat to Liberty. We’ve been enslaved via confiscatory taxation partially due to the military industrial complex. https://www.fff.org/2015/03/31/biggest-threat-american-liberty/ Go ahead. Statists can commence with their justifications for an oppressive State... Weird McBowflex, but ok. Truth is pretty weird when you’ve been fed a bunch of bullshit and lies your whole life. State militias were supposed to be our defense, we weren’t supposed to have a standing army, we weren’t supposed to have long term allies and fuck around in foreign affairs. Unfortunately, the State figured out war is a racket and now we find ourselves in war after war to feed the military industrial complex that is being cheered on in this thread. Free your mind from what you’ve been conditioned to think. Step out of the trees so you can see the forest. |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 12:22:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't usually fly with missiles do they? I think the F22 and F35 dont have external mounts, only concealed internal for stealth. Feel free to correct me if you're in the know. |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 1:14:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the F22 and F35 dont have external mounts, only concealed internal for stealth. Feel free to correct me if you're in the know. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They don't usually fly with missiles do they? I think the F22 and F35 dont have external mounts, only concealed internal for stealth. Feel free to correct me if you're in the know. The F22 and F35 both have external mounts.  Attached File Attached FileNot used sometimes for a fairly obvious reason. |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 1:19:10 AM EDT
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What do we need those for, when China-virus is the new weapon?
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Posted: 4/23/2020 1:24:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do we need those for, when China-virus is the new weapon? Because we were working on these before the virus was released and we're not at the point where these birds will be stripped for valuable materials and components to provide hard currency for a bankrupt federal government hellbent on exterminating a siezable portion of its own population juuuuuuuust yet. |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 1:28:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do we need those for, when China-virus is the new weapon? Have to feed the defense contracting companies somehow. |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 1:29:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Truth is pretty weird when you’ve been fed a bunch of bullshit and lies your whole life. State militias were supposed to be our defense, we weren’t supposed to have a standing army, we weren’t supposed to have long term allies and fuck around in foreign affairs. Unfortunately, the State figured out war is a racket and now we find ourselves in war after war to feed the military industrial complex that is being cheered on in this thread. Free your mind from what you’ve been conditioned to think. Step out of the trees so you can see the forest. While i agree with the sentiment to some extent no federal military is as much of a pipe dream as communism working or an actual libertarian society. We would not be a freeish society without our military. Could we cut it in half or less and let the rest of the world worry about their own shit? Absolutely |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 1:40:05 AM EDT
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Thanks OP.
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Posted: 4/23/2020 1:44:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are AMRAAMs on the F-16 wingtips and Sidewinders on underwing pylons when it used to be the reverse? F-16s thin wings flex a lot, especially under G. The AIM-120 is nose-heavy relative to the center of gravity and its position on the LAU-129 launcher. This helps with reducing wing flex under G in both roll and pitch axes. The AIM-9 on the wingtip helps reduce it more than an empty rail, and both increase the F-16's fuel efficiency as a result when the rails have a missile on them versus being empty. It's something that was identified a long time ago during weapons carriage flight tests on the Viper. Once the AIM-120 came online, they were initially carrying them on stations 2 & 8 IIRC, then started moving them to 1 & 9 for this reason, while putting AIM-9s on 2 & 8. 
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Posted: 4/23/2020 1:53:29 AM EDT
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Those F-16 camo schemes are HAWT.
F-35 looks great too. Very clean. You know I initially thought it was a rather ugly pig, and from certain views I still think that, but it has grown on me. It is certainly better-looking than Boeing's proposal. 
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Posted: 4/23/2020 1:59:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those F-16 camo schemes are HAWT. F-35 looks great too. Very clean. You know I initially thought it was a rather ugly pig, and from certain views I still think that, but it has grown on me. It is certainly better-looking than Boeing's proposal. I felt the same way about the F-22 until I saw it rape the sky with its performance. They still look kinda ungainly from the side, but from top, bottom, front, or rear, they are sleek. Same for the F-35. It looks terrible from the side, but amazing from those same angles.     
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Posted: 4/23/2020 2:02:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Truth is pretty weird when you’ve been fed a bunch of bullshit and lies your whole life. State militias were supposed to be our defense, we weren’t supposed to have a standing army, we weren’t supposed to have long term allies and fuck around in foreign affairs. Unfortunately, the State figured out war is a racket and now we find ourselves in war after war to feed the military industrial complex that is being cheered on in this thread. Free your mind from what you’ve been conditioned to think. Step out of the trees so you can see the forest. If we were living in the universe, or next to the universe of The Probability Broach I might agree with you. However we live in a world where other countries maintain standing armies. As for the constant wars, oh the irony of that statement. Huge chunks of our big fancy military industrial complex have been worn down to a nub by these constant wars. Spend all your time, effort, treasure and blood killing Iron Age goat herders and perhaps you aren't able to handle a near peer opponent. Now it all becomes a game of who can maintain their big, scary militaries the longest. Many countries, like Germany have already chucked in the sponge. |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 2:35:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those F-16 camo schemes are HAWT. F-35 looks great too. Very clean. You know I initially thought it was a rather ugly pig, and from certain views I still think that, but it has grown on me. It is certainly better-looking than Boeing's proposal. Oh yeah, the 18th Aggressor has some awesome paint on their jets. I think (but am not 100%) that the standard fighters are the grey/blue and grey/black, and the woodland are squadron commander and 2 seat birds. There was a badass black one for a bit in 2017, but it turns out the airframe was just getting ready for paint. Shame, because it looked awesome. No idea why they'd fly a jet in the process of getting painted, but I couldn't tell you what's required to do .mil jet paint anyhow.    (not my photo) 
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Posted: 4/23/2020 5:15:47 AM EDT
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When I was in Arizona a couple months ago. I was very fortunate to hang out outside of Davis Monthan in Tucson and Luke AFB in Phoenix and capture some footage of A-10s, F-22s, F-35s and FA-18s
 Here's a few pics of the Raptors at Davis Monthan    A-10s at Davis Monthan     Two F-35s at Davis Monthan above a B-50 at Pima air and Space Museum  F-35s at Luke AFB  Two F-35s taking off from Luke AFB in Phoenix AZ  Two F-35s landing at Luke AFB in Phoenix AZ  Two F-35s performing touch and goes at Luke AFB in Phoenix AZ  Two F-35s landing at Luke AFB in Phoenix AZ FA-18s at Luke AFB  Two FA-18s landing at Luke AFB in Phoenix AZ |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 5:35:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2020 9:54:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: F-16s thin wings flex a lot, especially under G. The AIM-120 is nose-heavy relative to the center of gravity and its position on the LAU-129 launcher. This helps with reducing wing flex under G in both roll and pitch axes. The AIM-9 on the wingtip helps reduce it more than an empty rail, and both increase the F-16's fuel efficiency as a result when the rails have a missile on them versus being empty. It's something that was identified a long time ago during weapons carriage flight tests on the Viper. Once the AIM-120 came online, they were initially carrying them on stations 2 & 8 IIRC, then started moving them to 1 & 9 for this reason, while putting AIM-9s on 2 & 8. https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f16railstores2.gif Spock_fascinating.jpeg |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 10:04:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: (not my photo) MiG-30?
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Posted: 4/23/2020 10:14:48 AM EDT
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Nice pics.
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Posted: 4/23/2020 10:28:47 AM EDT
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Kick ass thread is kick ass.
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Posted: 4/23/2020 10:36:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't usually fly with missiles do they? I think it depends on how stealthy they need to be. For example if they were going to Iran to fuck shit up we could drive it in the country on a trailer and fire weapons and be good. |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 10:37:01 AM EDT
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Great thread though guys, love the pictures, love the insight and stories we get on these type of threads. This is why I love Arf.
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Posted: 4/23/2020 10:39:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ll have to disagree with you on that one... A standing army is a great threat to Liberty. We’ve been enslaved via confiscatory taxation partially due to the military industrial complex. https://www.fff.org/2015/03/31/biggest-threat-american-liberty/ Go ahead. Statists can commence with their justifications for an oppressive State... It’s the free shit welfare army that has enslaved and killing the middle class in the USA At least the military industrial complex provides for numerous good paying skilled or educated jobs. All the social services are the blood sucking leach on freedom and liberty. They produce nothing but more co-dependence. |
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