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Posted: 6/4/2019 5:09:21 PM EDT

Trump administration halts cruises to Cuba under new rules.

“Cruise ships as well as recreational and pleasure vessels are prohibited from departing the U.S. on temporary sojourn to Cuba effective tomorrow,” the Commerce Department said in a statement to The Associated Press.

The new restrictions are part of a broader effort by the administration of President Donald Trump to roll back the Obama-era efforts to restore normal relations between the United States and Cuba, which drew sharp criticism from the more hardline elements of the Cuban-American community and their allies in Congress.

Treasury said the sanctions would take effect on Wednesday after they are published in the Federal Register.

U.S. national security adviser John Bolton, who declared Cuba part of a “troika of tyranny ” along with Nicaragua and Venezuela as he outlined plans for sanctions in November, said the new policy is intended to deny the Cuban government a vital source of revenue.

“The Administration has advanced the President’s Cuba policy by ending ‘veiled tourism’ to Cuba and imposing restrictions on vessels,” Bolton said on Twitter. “We will continue to take actions to restrict the Cuban regime’s access to U.S. dollars.”

The Cuban government imposed food rationing last month as a result of tightened U.S. sanctions and a drop in subsidized oil and other aid from Venezuela. For the Cuban government, cruise travel generated many millions of dollars a year in docking fees and payments for on-shore excursions, although those figures were never made public. Cuba also has become the most-requested destination for many South Florida-based cruise lines.

https://apnews.com/67c721daee8143d4a2e6ee8c401bf215

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:11:38 PM EDT

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Good.

Fuck Cuba.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:13:43 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/4/2019 5:14:56 PM EDT

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I'll have a rum and Coke.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:15:43 PM EDT

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A excellent decision.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:15:52 PM EDT

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Are Americans really lining up to take a cruise to Cuba? Is this a mental health thing?

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:15:54 PM EDT

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Yep, no Cash For Commies.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:16:03 PM EDT

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Right on. Americans shouldn’t be free to travel to the place of their choice.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:17:06 PM EDT

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Ditto x3

Or would that be x4

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:18:07 PM EDT

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How's that working out with regards to China?

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:22:37 PM EDT

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A friend who is a retired USMC Colonel just went on a cruise that had a stop in Cuba.

He had a bad experience. He paid a local to drive them around the island. Says there is extreme poverty around the island. The capital, though dilapidated, is apparently much better than the country side conditions. They got stopped in a police road block and his guide did not have state permit for being a tour guide and they were going to arrest all of them. He said they were at gun point for awhile until a crowd surrounded the police to demand they let them leave.

He says they barely made it back to the port to make it for the cruise ship departure.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:23:48 PM EDT

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The Andrews Sisters - Rum And Coca-Cola 1944

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Posted: 6/4/2019 5:26:40 PM EDT

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How's that working out with regards to China?

Fuck China.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:27:10 PM EDT

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I hope that's not a Cuban rum....

I have family that was over there recently, looks neat, but I mean if they would quit siding with the communist powers they wouldn't have to be the way they are...

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:28:23 PM EDT

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Sorry your gal lost.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:29:04 PM EDT

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that's racist

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:29:41 PM EDT

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Freedom is scary.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:33:48 PM EDT

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Cuban regime is fueling the Maduro regime. Even heard Irans Hamas in now operating in Venezuela. Cuban regime needs to smashed.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:34:36 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/4/2019 5:37:33 PM EDT

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The reefs surrounding Cuba are some of the most pristine in the Bahamas, if not the world. This is due to almost zero boat traffic over the decades.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:39:34 PM EDT

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I found out about this at work, a coworker and her family has a Cuban cruise coming up.

ETA: had a Cuban cruise.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:41:12 PM EDT

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My mom actually had Rum and Coca Cola in Cuba, but before it was a commie country.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:47:28 PM EDT

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Cuba was a corrupt fascist state with a socialist constitution before Castro.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:49:59 PM EDT

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I dont like Cuba, or FBHO, but why? Isnt it actually beneficial for both of us?

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:53:03 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/4/2019 5:53:41 PM EDT

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Lots of resorts in Cuba. Good for taking.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:53:59 PM EDT

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The article says Obama drew critisism from “hard line” Cubans.

Fucking fake news. I worked in Miami at the time with all Cubans and one other white guy. All of the Cubans were pissed.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:56:12 PM EDT

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Says "Freedom is scary" in saying that supporting Castro's Cuba is freedom loving.

Without irony.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:56:51 PM EDT

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We should invade that island.

Posted: 6/4/2019 5:57:56 PM EDT

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I guess the injuries that our diplomats suffered in Cuba are just a symptom of not being freedom loving enough.

Posted: 6/4/2019 6:16:06 PM EDT

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How about this: The US government should not and does not have the power to dictate where I travel.

Posted: 6/4/2019 6:16:26 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/4/2019 6:17:25 PM EDT

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Strangle them economically

Posted: 6/4/2019 6:20:17 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/4/2019 6:20:46 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/4/2019 6:21:11 PM EDT

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My parents went on a cruise there recently and they said it was a total shithole. Dogs dying in the streets because nobody will feed or care for them. Unclean businesses and dark restaurants. Trash everywhere. They are sort of glad they got to see it but they said they wouldn't go back.

I get the same feedback from people who take their yachts there. Total shithole is a common response.

Posted: 6/4/2019 6:29:32 PM EDT

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My parents went on a cruise there recently and they said it was a total shithole. Dogs dying in the streets because nobody will feed or care for them. Unclean businesses and dark restaurants. Trash everywhere. They are sort of glad they got to see it but they said they wouldn't go back.

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I was there as well and she is 100% correct.

Posted: 6/4/2019 6:44:48 PM EDT

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The surest way to undermine the shit-eatin' commies there would be to do business with them. They've done pretty damned well under fifty years of sanctions.

Posted: 6/4/2019 8:14:04 PM EDT

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HAMAS gets some funding by Iran, but is hardly Iran's creature. They're Sunni Arabs who get some money from Shia Persians - more than a few HAMAS operatives have fought the Iranians in Syria.

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