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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:41:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't agree with that assessment. There are other parts of that law which were needed. Further, this isn't a gun control law. It fixes portions of a previous law that were prone to abuse. I'd argue that background checks are totally unnecessary but Congress didn't agree. Quoted: No, Fix NICS wasn't a gun control law, and, in fact, it corrected some long-standing areas ripe for abuse. Your assessment is fucking 'tarded. When you read the actual law, it fixes some parts of NICS that are ripe for abuse. It's not a gun control law. (Unless you believe NICS itself is a gun control law and you might be able to argue that point successfully IMHO.) I'd only disagree to the extent it doesn't actually control anything. You could argue that it is an unnecessary administrative burden and I would agree with that. In some states, running a NICS check costs money so that would be an unlawful tax on a basic right. So, while I might quibble with calling it gun control, I'd certainly be overwhelmingly in favor of getting rid of it. A right delayed is a right denied. Let's apply NICS to you purchasing a bible or ordering a movie from a streaming service. Take your gun control supporting gun ass the fuck out of here. This. Yep |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:42:43 PM EST
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He had 4 years to go after the left.
He failed. How do we know he won't fail again? Why would I want a loser to win at something as important as the president. There are other, better choices. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:42:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can’t argue with this. Cronyism is cronyism. Something big club something something. There is one candidate in the race who had at least brought up entitlement reform. He was immediately attacked from the left from another candidate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Millennial here. Fuck student loan forgiveness… and let’s abolish social security too. Socialism is socialism. I agree, but to turn down one group (Millennials) and then refuse to even lay a finger on social security is hypocritical and it's going to cost the Republicans in 2024. If Republicans were consistently fiscally conservative than I think the majority of Millennials would accept the rejection of student loan forgiveness, but they Republicans are not consistent at all. Can't be seen as sending Billions to the Industrial Military Complex, bailing out banks, and then denying the average Millennials student debt relief. It's not a good combination and it's going to cost us severely. Ultimately, the GOP is going to lose to the Democrats because the GOP doesn't offer a consistently solid conservative performance. The GOP thinks it can get a little bit socialist when it suits them and them pretend to be conservatives when it doesn't. Well, you can't get a little bit pregnant and the GOP is just socialist lite to many seen as just favoring corporate welfare over the common people. Can’t argue with this. Cronyism is cronyism. Something big club something something. There is one candidate in the race who had at least brought up entitlement reform. He was immediately attacked from the left from another candidate. Golly gee I wonder who that was |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:43:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122381/Screenshot_20230415_083148_Chrome_jpg-2845336.JPG That's the GOP and Trump has continued to push it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Millennial here. Fuck student loan forgiveness and let's abolish social security too. Socialism is socialism. I agree, but to turn down one group (Millennials) and then refuse to even lay a finger on social security is hypocritical and it's going to cost the Republicans in 2024. If Republicans were consistently fiscally conservative than I think the majority of Millennials would accept the rejection of student loan forgiveness, but they Republicans are not consistent at all. Can't be seen as sending Billions to the Industrial Military Complex, bailing out banks, and then denying the average Millennials student debt relief. It's not a good combination and it's going to cost us severely. Ultimately, the GOP is going to lose to the Democrats because the GOP doesn't offer a consistently solid conservative performance. The GOP thinks it can get a little bit socialist when it suits them and them pretend to be conservatives when it doesn't. Well, you can't get a little bit pregnant and the GOP is just socialist lite to many seen as just favoring corporate welfare over the common people. That's the GOP and Trump has continued to push it. Right, since failure of one of the most heavily regulated markets at the time was a failure of the “free” market. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:44:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not shilling for anybody which you would already know if you'd been actually reading my posts. But claiming Trump is anti-gun is disingenuous. A mixed bag, certainly.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:44:26 PM EST
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get on board? surly you jest
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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:45:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, great....your boy can win TX. Now do the rust belt and other purple states he will need to carry to pull off a victory. He won MI and WI in 2016. He lost them in 2020. Here in WI he still has support but no where near where it was the last 2 elections. Explain to me how he is going to win those states outside your Texas bubble that are toss-ups. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There's a lot of support for Trump here and in the other places in Texas I've been this year. I don't think anybody is trying to sell Trump per se. The thread OP postulates that Trump may be our last political attempt to rid the rot out of the criminal corruption within the .gov. Not sure I agree with that since ultimately it is We the People that are the last bastion of freedom in the country. Now do the rust belt and other purple states he will need to carry to pull off a victory. He won MI and WI in 2016. He lost them in 2020. Here in WI he still has support but no where near where it was the last 2 elections. Explain to me how he is going to win those states outside your Texas bubble that are toss-ups. Hell let’s see him win GA. Fucking lost GA and two senate seats there all while GA elected a republican governor over a well funded democratic challenger. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:47:29 PM EST
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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:49:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump 24. Carry on.  
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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:55:15 PM EST
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Posted: 6/9/2023 1:55:59 PM EST
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I'm not quite sure what OP is suggesting people do about Trump's indictment, but I would sure be interested in some specifics.
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:01:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the election was stolen, then that means the system that was used to steal it is still in place and has actuallyexpanded. Why would Trump wn 2024? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Outside of trailer parks I don't see any support for Trump anywhere, and my county went >70% for Trump in 2020. I'm convinced the guys trying to sell Trump for 2024 are only doing so because they are trying to sew division among the right. @OP how much are you being paid to shill by Shareblue There's a lot of support for Trump here and in the other places in Texas I've been this year. I don't think anybody is trying to sell Trump per se. The thread OP postulates that Trump may be our last political attempt to rid the rot out of the criminal corruption within the .gov. Not sure I agree with that since ultimately it is We the People that are the last bastion of freedom in the country. There was a ton of support for Trump in '20. Huge rallies on land and in boats on the water. Even when he wasn't anywhere around. Signs. Bumper stickers. Guys just showing up on street corners waving Trump/MAGA flags... ...which got us what exactly? A win that was stolen? If? |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:03:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryNeeds to be a line about threatening to assassinate other gun owners if they get his sniper rifle banned because of their silly bumpstocks. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:03:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The election wasn't stolen, Trump just sucked. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Outside of trailer parks I don't see any support for Trump anywhere, and my county went >70% for Trump in 2020. I'm convinced the guys trying to sell Trump for 2024 are only doing so because they are trying to sew division among the right. @OP how much are you being paid to shill by Shareblue There's a lot of support for Trump here and in the other places in Texas I've been this year. I don't think anybody is trying to sell Trump per se. The thread OP postulates that Trump may be our last political attempt to rid the rot out of the criminal corruption within the .gov. Not sure I agree with that since ultimately it is We the People that are the last bastion of freedom in the country. There was a ton of support for Trump in '20. Huge rallies on land and in boats on the water. Even when he wasn't anywhere around. Signs. Bumper stickers. Guys just showing up on street corners waving Trump/MAGA flags... ...which got us what exactly? A win that was stolen? I asked that question myself multiple times but didn't limit it to just Trump. Unless the system that was used to steal 2020 is dismantled, it won't matter one iota who the GOP candidate is. So far, I haven't gotten a good response from anybody on what to do about it yet. It would have to be a multi-pronged, national level effort and so far, I don't see any organizations stepping up.  there it is. absolutely blind to the facts. Hop over to the AZ thread. See what happened in 22 and was proved in court. Get back to us on elections not being stolen. Fricken clownworld.
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:05:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Needs to be a line about threatening to assassinate other gun owners if they get his sniper rifle banned because of their silly bumpstocks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Needs to be a line about threatening to assassinate other gun owners if they get his sniper rifle banned because of their silly bumpstocks. Oh, I heard that shit in person when I spoke out against the Bush 1989 assault weapons import ban at gun clubs that year. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:11:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, I heard that shit in person when I spoke out against We had a guy on here doing it. I think he might have been some kind of gun rag writer? Might be my slowly diminishing brain mixing him up with Zumbo or something. Said something along the lines of "I regularly make 1000 yard shots, FYI if you fuckers get my ARs banned because of your bumpstock whining." Something like that. He liked to brag about going hunting with his state legislator or something too, I think. Had lots of hunting pics of big horn sheep and stuff, which was pretty cool. He actually talked about some pretty cool hunting stuff until he went off the deep end and went psychopath FUDD-mode. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:13:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We had a guy on here doing it. I think he might have been some kind of gun rag writer? Might be my slowly diminishing brain mixing him up with Zumbo or something. Said something along the lines of "I regularly make 1000 yard shots, FYI if you fuckers get my ARs banned because of your bumpstock whining." Something like that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh, I heard that shit in person when I spoke out against We had a guy on here doing it. I think he might have been some kind of gun rag writer? Might be my slowly diminishing brain mixing him up with Zumbo or something. Said something along the lines of "I regularly make 1000 yard shots, FYI if you fuckers get my ARs banned because of your bumpstock whining." Something like that. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:14:00 PM EST
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:14:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Burn something was his name and he supposedly made high end hunting rifles That's it. Burnsey. Or Burnsy. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:15:22 PM EST
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This is the saddest day in American history!! Where do the good men who are fed up meet to do something about all this evil!! Trump was right about everything and if you deny that you are not a friend of Freedom. We are controlled by a country of pedophiles and purely evil people!! Even my center liberal parents who hate everyone Trump see this for what it is and I never thought I would see that day. We truly are on our own and no one is coming to save us. Overwhelm this page with ideas and events the Fed Bois can’t investigate every idea
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:29:59 PM EST
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:33:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're not the boss of me. Start that thread or piss off. Why don't you defend your lawyer, DeSanto? He is not going to be president and you know it. Damn N_Ts are already salty, what will it be like 3 month from now? Insert gif of Vagasil. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:39:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He had 4 years to go after the left. He failed. How do we know he won't fail again? Why would I want a loser to win at something as important as the president. There are other, better choices. He never intended to "drain the swamp " or any if that. He made up a boogeyman to use as a way to get votes. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:43:05 PM EST
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Quoted: Regardless of Trump's faults (and there are many), he's the last stand we have politically. If the left (and some on the right) are allowed to get away with not only what they've done to him, but what they're trying to do, they will have openly institutionalized the weaponization of our government against the highest office in the land and with zero accountability. If they can do this to a Presidential candidate, Presidential nominee, POTUS, former POTUS and current candidate for POTUS, you're nothing and stand zero chance when they come for you, and come for you they will. Desantis is a fine governor and may make a good President someday, but now is the time to rally around Trump, not because he's perfect, but because he now represents what's left of our ability to fight back and they know it. Best get on board, hold your nose if you have to, but a vote for anything other then Trump at this point is supporting what they're doing to him and whomever will come after... It is kind of sad that the best thing we can do right now is elect a guy that loves media attention and will do many stupid things. I can't help but think that if Trump were a Democrat like he used to be most would be calling for his arrest. Maybe not. Politics is all a bit too cultish for me. If Trump wins the nomination I will 100% vote for him. I have never voted Democrat in my life. Do I wish out of the 320 some million people in this country we had someone better? Yeah I do. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:43:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He never intended to "drain the swamp " or any if that. He made up a boogeyman to use as a way to get votes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He had 4 years to go after the left. He failed. How do we know he won't fail again? Why would I want a loser to win at something as important as the president. There are other, better choices. He never intended to "drain the swamp " or any if that. He made up a boogeyman to use as a way to get votes.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:45:27 PM EST
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It still baffles me how much support trump has. By every normal metric other than "makes libs mad" he is a terrible cunt of a person. None of you would want to work for him, be his friend, or let him anywhere near your kids or daughters . He cheats on his wives, he gets caught in lies frequently. His presidency amounted to more spending and inflation than a democrat could ever dream of and more gun control than the democrat before him. He got no meaningful legislation even when he had majorities .
He's a piece of shit and a loser . Yes the left and FBI sabotaged him but it only worked so marvelously because he's a gigantic piece of shit. Now you guys are all pumped up for round two of this turd just because the left doesn't like him. Even though women and moderates hate him too and he has zero chance of pulling swing states. I think the left is pushing this at this point to martyr him and make sure he wins the primary because he can't beat Biden. And even if he did they know he'll be just as ineffective and easy to destroy in his second term because he'll still be a petulant crybaby cunt that nobody likes |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:48:02 PM EST
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During his tenure the economy was great, unemployment low, no new wars, four conservative justices and all I hear is, oh we is a new york liberal! Good lord.
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:52:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: During his tenure the economy was great, unemployment low, no new wars, four conservative justices and all I hear is, oh we is a new york liberal! Good lord. wow ... Freudian slip and fall my dude. lol |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:53:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just like they did in 2020? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 14 pages of acrimony for nothing. Time spent arguing about this is wasted. The Republicans are not going to elect a President this time. The party is more fractured than I've ever seen it. If Trump is nominated, the undecideds or moderates will hold their nose and vote for Biden. And Republican turnout will be awful as a large portion of the party wants nothing to do with him. If literally any other person is nominated, Trump will poison the die-hard Trumpists against him and he will stand no chance of winning with only a portion of the GOP. I don't see how a Republican wins the 2024 Presidential election. The only chance we had was for Trump to bow out gracefully and use his leverage to unite the party behind a single candidate. I don't see that ever happening. There's still 17 months. Maybe I'm wrong. This is it. This is what every single Trump/DeSantis/Haley thread should start with, and then be locked. You know how many shareblue guys like @Morlawn66 have openly admitted they won’t even vote if Trump isn’t nominated? They don’t need Trump to “sow” anything. They will just claim it’s rigged, man!!! Undecideds and moderates will vote their pocketbook. Whichever GOPer gets the nomination better come out swinging on the economy. That's what will sink the Dimunists. Just like they did in 2020? Correct. Fraud overcame all of that which wasn't that hard since the communists only had to inject it in a small number of specific places to win. However, even some of the knuckleheads that actually half-heartedly voted for Xiden have had their pocketbooks clobbered. If they learned anything from that, they won't make that mistake again. If. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:54:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: During his tenure the economy was great, unemployment low, no new wars, four conservative justices and all I hear is, oh we is a new york liberal! Good lord. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:55:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree, but to turn down one group (Millennials) and then refuse to even lay a finger on social security is hypocritical and it's going to cost the Republicans in 2024. If Republicans were consistently fiscally conservative than I think the majority of Millennials would accept the rejection of student loan forgiveness, but they Republicans are not consistent at all. Can't be seen as sending Billions to the Industrial Military Complex, bailing out banks, and then denying the average Millennials student debt relief. It's not a good combination and it's going to cost us severely. Ultimately, the GOP is going to lose to the Democrats because the GOP doesn't offer a consistently solid conservative performance. The GOP thinks it can get a little bit socialist when it suits them and them pretend to be conservatives when it doesn't. Well, you can't get a little bit pregnant and the GOP is just socialist lite to many seen as just favoring corporate welfare over the common people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Millennial here. Fuck student loan forgiveness… and let’s abolish social security too. Socialism is socialism. I agree, but to turn down one group (Millennials) and then refuse to even lay a finger on social security is hypocritical and it's going to cost the Republicans in 2024. If Republicans were consistently fiscally conservative than I think the majority of Millennials would accept the rejection of student loan forgiveness, but they Republicans are not consistent at all. Can't be seen as sending Billions to the Industrial Military Complex, bailing out banks, and then denying the average Millennials student debt relief. It's not a good combination and it's going to cost us severely. Ultimately, the GOP is going to lose to the Democrats because the GOP doesn't offer a consistently solid conservative performance. The GOP thinks it can get a little bit socialist when it suits them and them pretend to be conservatives when it doesn't. Well, you can't get a little bit pregnant and the GOP is just socialist lite to many seen as just favoring corporate welfare over the common people. This is one of the more frustrating things about today's GOP. They could be the party of smaller government, fiscal responsibility, and pro individual freedom. But they can't seem to get behind such a winning formula. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:56:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 5, 6 years ago this was me and like 2 or 3 other dudes trying our best to pry eyes open about how the emperor had no clothes... It's nice to see others have seen the light.  
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:56:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The election wasn't stolen, Trump just sucked. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Outside of trailer parks I don't see any support for Trump anywhere, and my county went >70% for Trump in 2020. I'm convinced the guys trying to sell Trump for 2024 are only doing so because they are trying to sew division among the right. @OP how much are you being paid to shill by Shareblue There's a lot of support for Trump here and in the other places in Texas I've been this year. I don't think anybody is trying to sell Trump per se. The thread OP postulates that Trump may be our last political attempt to rid the rot out of the criminal corruption within the .gov. Not sure I agree with that since ultimately it is We the People that are the last bastion of freedom in the country. There was a ton of support for Trump in '20. Huge rallies on land and in boats on the water. Even when he wasn't anywhere around. Signs. Bumper stickers. Guys just showing up on street corners waving Trump/MAGA flags... ...which got us what exactly? A win that was stolen? I asked that question myself multiple times but didn't limit it to just Trump. Unless the system that was used to steal 2020 is dismantled, it won't matter one iota who the GOP candidate is. So far, I haven't gotten a good response from anybody on what to do about it yet. It would have to be a multi-pronged, national level effort and so far, I don't see any organizations stepping up. Anyone who cannot see the election was stolen and ignores all the actual evidence of precisely how it was stolen is delusional. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:57:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It still baffles me how much support trump has. By every normal metric other than "makes libs mad" he is a terrible cunt of a person. None of you would want to work for him, be his friend, or let him anywhere near your kids or daughters . He cheats on his wives, he gets caught in lies frequently. His presidency amounted to more spending and inflation than a democrat could ever dream of and more gun control than the democrat before him. He got no meaningful legislation even when he had majorities . He's a piece of shit and a loser . Yes the left and FBI sabotaged him but it only worked so marvelously because he's a gigantic piece of shit. Now you guys are all pumped up for round two of this turd just because the left doesn't like him. Even though women and moderates hate him too and he has zero chance of pulling swing states. I think the left is pushing this at this point to martyr him and make sure he wins the primary because he can't beat Biden. And even if he did they know he'll be just as ineffective and easy to destroy in his second term because he'll still be a petulant crybaby cunt that nobody likes |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:58:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who cannot see the election was stolen and ignores all the actual evidence of precisely how it was stolen is delusional. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Outside of trailer parks I don't see any support for Trump anywhere, and my county went >70% for Trump in 2020. I'm convinced the guys trying to sell Trump for 2024 are only doing so because they are trying to sew division among the right. @OP how much are you being paid to shill by Shareblue There's a lot of support for Trump here and in the other places in Texas I've been this year. I don't think anybody is trying to sell Trump per se. The thread OP postulates that Trump may be our last political attempt to rid the rot out of the criminal corruption within the .gov. Not sure I agree with that since ultimately it is We the People that are the last bastion of freedom in the country. There was a ton of support for Trump in '20. Huge rallies on land and in boats on the water. Even when he wasn't anywhere around. Signs. Bumper stickers. Guys just showing up on street corners waving Trump/MAGA flags... ...which got us what exactly? A win that was stolen? I asked that question myself multiple times but didn't limit it to just Trump. Unless the system that was used to steal 2020 is dismantled, it won't matter one iota who the GOP candidate is. So far, I haven't gotten a good response from anybody on what to do about it yet. It would have to be a multi-pronged, national level effort and so far, I don't see any organizations stepping up. Anyone who cannot see the election was stolen and ignores all the actual evidence of precisely how it was stolen is delusional. Living in MI I will not disagree. Even if it wasn't fully stolen... there were shenanigans (to put it lightly). Free and fair elections don't look like the 2020 election. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:58:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bro, you postulated that he might change that stance IF he runs. There has to be multiple people posting from this account. No way one person can lose track if what they just said minutes ago. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, it is Trump. Ok smart Kids, who else if not Trump in 2024 that has a realistic chance of winning and will pursue the DC Swamp? We don't even know all of the candidates yet. Rand Paul would be light years better than Trump. Cue the crystal ball holding "hE's UnElEcTaBlE!" crowd. I don't know too much about Rand Paul's views on foreign affairs, same as I don't know too much about Ted Cruz's. I think both lean towards pro-freedom and small(er) government. That's always a good start. When do all the candidates realistically need to declare they're running? I would assume some lead time before the Iowa caucuses? They’ve both been in politics for a long time and have an extensive record. Moreover, both ran in the republican primary in 2016. Were your ears too full of orange jizz (by far the best jizz) to hear their positions then? Neither have an extensive record on their foreign policy leanings. Rand Paul has had some isolationist tendencies in the past but if he runs for the big chair, he may not hold on to those. Cruz doesn't have a broad position on foreign policy. As far as I know, neither is a declared candidate. As United States Senators they have voted on a plethora of bills related to foreign policy. Those votes will be more determinant as to how they will govern, not what the say on the trail. Re: bold, if he changes that stance he will turn off a big portion of his base and be labeled some type of sellout/swamp creature. Has he declared himself a candidate yet? What does that have to do with this conversation? You said you didn’t know about their foreign policy positions. I said that is because your own willful ignorance. Nonsense. You claimed if he changes his stance, he'll lose a big portion of his base. If he's not a declared candidate, why does it matter what his stance is on foreign policy? Bro, you postulated that he might change that stance IF he runs. There has to be multiple people posting from this account. No way one person can lose track if what they just said minutes ago. No, I indicated he has some isolationist tendencies in the past. I also indicated *if he runs*, he may not carry those into his campaign. Ergo my question about whether he is a declared candidate or not. Do try to keep up. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 2:59:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, great....your boy can win TX. Now do the rust belt and other purple states he will need to carry to pull off a victory. He won MI and WI in 2016. He lost them in 2020. Here in WI he still has support but no where near where it was the last 2 elections. Explain to me how he is going to win those states outside your Texas bubble that are toss-ups. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There's a lot of support for Trump here and in the other places in Texas I've been this year. I don't think anybody is trying to sell Trump per se. The thread OP postulates that Trump may be our last political attempt to rid the rot out of the criminal corruption within the .gov. Not sure I agree with that since ultimately it is We the People that are the last bastion of freedom in the country. Now do the rust belt and other purple states he will need to carry to pull off a victory. He won MI and WI in 2016. He lost them in 2020. Here in WI he still has support but no where near where it was the last 2 elections. Explain to me how he is going to win those states outside your Texas bubble that are toss-ups. Unless the fraud machine in the key states is dismantled, no GOP candidate can win. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:00:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: During his tenure the economy was great, unemployment low, no new wars, four conservative justices and all I hear is, oh we is a new york liberal! Good lord. Quote HistoryQuoted: During his tenure the economy was great, unemployment low, no new wars, four conservative justices and all I hear is, oh we is a new york liberal! Good lord. https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/08/politics/supreme-court-alabama-voting-rights-milligan/index.html Chief Justice John Roberts penned the opinion for a 5-4 majority, siding with the court’s three liberals. Justice Brett Kavanaugh agreed with the key parts of the holding, providing the fifth vote. Bummer |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:01:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can't beat them, join them (just stay legal). We can't stop mail-in ballots at this point. Legal challenges through the courts have failed. Republicans have done as much as they can in states they control, but they can't do anything in states they don't control. DeSantis has the support of Elon Musk. If Elon could do what Mark Zuckerberg did for the Democrats by helping Republicans legally harvest mail-in ballots from rural areas (particular from the elderly in rural areas who may have difficulty reaching polling stations) than that could a long way with these very close elections. GOP is going to have to put in as many monitors at polling locations as possible as well and watch the process like hawks, which give rise to legal actions from the Democrats so an army of lawyers needs to be on stand by. This election is going to be a nasty one. I fully anticipate increased ANTIFA and BLM violence next Spring and Summer, they're going to push reparations and probably latch on to some "police violence" to try and motivate the minorities to turn out since right now their support for the white elderly Biden is pretty lackluster. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I asked that question myself multiple times but didn't limit it to just Trump. Unless the system that was used to steal 2020 is dismantled, it won't matter one iota who the GOP candidate is. So far, I haven't gotten a good response from anybody on what to do about it yet. It would have to be a multi-pronged, national level effort and so far, I don't see any organizations stepping up. If you can't beat them, join them (just stay legal). We can't stop mail-in ballots at this point. Legal challenges through the courts have failed. Republicans have done as much as they can in states they control, but they can't do anything in states they don't control. DeSantis has the support of Elon Musk. If Elon could do what Mark Zuckerberg did for the Democrats by helping Republicans legally harvest mail-in ballots from rural areas (particular from the elderly in rural areas who may have difficulty reaching polling stations) than that could a long way with these very close elections. GOP is going to have to put in as many monitors at polling locations as possible as well and watch the process like hawks, which give rise to legal actions from the Democrats so an army of lawyers needs to be on stand by. This election is going to be a nasty one. I fully anticipate increased ANTIFA and BLM violence next Spring and Summer, they're going to push reparations and probably latch on to some "police violence" to try and motivate the minorities to turn out since right now their support for the white elderly Biden is pretty lackluster. It will also be interesting to see that with the monopoly on the DNC narrative now effectively being broken by Musk buying Twitter, what's going to happen in the information space. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:02:07 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Insert gif of Vagasil. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're not the boss of me. Start that thread or piss off. Why don't you defend your lawyer, DeSanto? He is not going to be president and you know it. Damn N_Ts are already salty, what will it be like 3 month from now? Insert gif of Vagasil. #10 |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:02:43 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell let’s see him win GA. Fucking lost GA and two senate seats there all while GA elected a republican governor over a well funded democratic challenger. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There's a lot of support for Trump here and in the other places in Texas I've been this year. I don't think anybody is trying to sell Trump per se. The thread OP postulates that Trump may be our last political attempt to rid the rot out of the criminal corruption within the .gov. Not sure I agree with that since ultimately it is We the People that are the last bastion of freedom in the country. Now do the rust belt and other purple states he will need to carry to pull off a victory. He won MI and WI in 2016. He lost them in 2020. Here in WI he still has support but no where near where it was the last 2 elections. Explain to me how he is going to win those states outside your Texas bubble that are toss-ups. Hell let’s see him win GA. Fucking lost GA and two senate seats there all while GA elected a republican governor over a well funded democratic challenger. And yet it was the GA GOP who didn't fix the fraud there. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:03:21 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He never intended to "drain the swamp " or any if that. He made up a boogeyman to use as a way to get votes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He had 4 years to go after the left. He failed. How do we know he won't fail again? Why would I want a loser to win at something as important as the president. There are other, better choices. He never intended to "drain the swamp " or any if that. He made up a boogeyman to use as a way to get votes.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:04:24 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is one of the more frustrating things about today's GOP. They could be the party of smaller government, fiscal responsibility, and pro individual freedom. But they can't seem to get behind such a winning formula. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Millennial here. Fuck student loan forgiveness and let's abolish social security too. Socialism is socialism. I agree, but to turn down one group (Millennials) and then refuse to even lay a finger on social security is hypocritical and it's going to cost the Republicans in 2024. If Republicans were consistently fiscally conservative than I think the majority of Millennials would accept the rejection of student loan forgiveness, but they Republicans are not consistent at all. Can't be seen as sending Billions to the Industrial Military Complex, bailing out banks, and then denying the average Millennials student debt relief. It's not a good combination and it's going to cost us severely. Ultimately, the GOP is going to lose to the Democrats because the GOP doesn't offer a consistently solid conservative performance. The GOP thinks it can get a little bit socialist when it suits them and them pretend to be conservatives when it doesn't. Well, you can't get a little bit pregnant and the GOP is just socialist lite to many seen as just favoring corporate welfare over the common people. This is one of the more frustrating things about today's GOP. They could be the party of smaller government, fiscal responsibility, and pro individual freedom. But they can't seem to get behind such a winning formula. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:04:33 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I still believe that Communism fails. Thus, China will fail without our help. Do you think Communism can succeed? Please explain. I also believe that we need fewer restrictions, taxes and socialist policies here. And if we pursue and attain that, companies will naturally start and grow here instead of a shithole communist country like China. If we achieve that and companies still want to buy rubber dog shit out of China, I don't fucking care. China can be the rubber dog shit hub of the world. Do you think it's vital to national security that rubber dog shit gets made here in the US? Protectionist tariffs are a band-aid and a communist tactic. Mimicking communist tactics are not good for the US. We have to fix the root cause of our problems. Quote HistoryQuoted: I still believe that Communism fails. Thus, China will fail without our help. Do you think Communism can succeed? Please explain. I also believe that we need fewer restrictions, taxes and socialist policies here. And if we pursue and attain that, companies will naturally start and grow here instead of a shithole communist country like China. If we achieve that and companies still want to buy rubber dog shit out of China, I don't fucking care. China can be the rubber dog shit hub of the world. Do you think it's vital to national security that rubber dog shit gets made here in the US? Protectionist tariffs are a band-aid and a communist tactic. Mimicking communist tactics are not good for the US. We have to fix the root cause of our problems. China isn’t truly communist, but they are a totalitarian society that has waged economic war against us for decades and you criticize Trump for fighting back. This is a perfect example of the truth behind the Never Trumpers that don’t want what is best for America. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:05:42 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: there it is. absolutely blind to the facts. Hop over to the AZ thread. See what happened in 22 and was proved in court. Get back to us on elections not being stolen. Fricken clownworld.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Outside of trailer parks I don't see any support for Trump anywhere, and my county went >70% for Trump in 2020. I'm convinced the guys trying to sell Trump for 2024 are only doing so because they are trying to sew division among the right. @OP how much are you being paid to shill by Shareblue There's a lot of support for Trump here and in the other places in Texas I've been this year. I don't think anybody is trying to sell Trump per se. The thread OP postulates that Trump may be our last political attempt to rid the rot out of the criminal corruption within the .gov. Not sure I agree with that since ultimately it is We the People that are the last bastion of freedom in the country. There was a ton of support for Trump in '20. Huge rallies on land and in boats on the water. Even when he wasn't anywhere around. Signs. Bumper stickers. Guys just showing up on street corners waving Trump/MAGA flags... ...which got us what exactly? A win that was stolen? I asked that question myself multiple times but didn't limit it to just Trump. Unless the system that was used to steal 2020 is dismantled, it won't matter one iota who the GOP candidate is. So far, I haven't gotten a good response from anybody on what to do about it yet. It would have to be a multi-pronged, national level effort and so far, I don't see any organizations stepping up. there it is. absolutely blind to the facts. Hop over to the AZ thread. See what happened in 22 and was proved in court. Get back to us on elections not being stolen. Fricken clownworld.Yeah, that AZ thread (and it kinda expanded to other states) has been a real eye opener. The fraud machine was large, well funded, and well organized. This is just one aspect of how the fraud took place and how lawfare was used to protect the fraud:  The TRUTH About Election Fraud | Texas AG Ken Paxton at #Heritage50 |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:06:52 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Florida had a record budget surplus for FY 2021-2022. Tell me again how that fares in comparison to the $7.8 trillion Trump tacked onto out debt in 4 years. While FL doesn't have open carry, they got permitless carry, so a PRO-GUN bill. May not be everything that was wanted, but it went in the right direction. What pro-gun bills did Trump sign when he had a majority in both houses? FL's Red Flag Law was signed by Rick Scott, not Ron DeSantis. This is the equivalent of saying Trump is responsible for every shittly bill that previous presidents signed. Seriously, you're really grasping at straws now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sounds remarkably like DeSantis. Record spending, no open carry, still red flag laws, all with a Republican supermajority. Why do you think he will be any more effective? While FL doesn't have open carry, they got permitless carry, so a PRO-GUN bill. May not be everything that was wanted, but it went in the right direction. What pro-gun bills did Trump sign when he had a majority in both houses? FL's Red Flag Law was signed by Rick Scott, not Ron DeSantis. This is the equivalent of saying Trump is responsible for every shittly bill that previous presidents signed. Seriously, you're really grasping at straws now. Straws? The man can’t keep his government growth under control. He failed to push the most important gun law reform through a Republican supermajority. To deny that these are real problems is disingenuous. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:07:02 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the saddest day in American history!! Where do the good men who are fed up meet to do something about all this evil!! Trump was right about everything and if you deny that you are not a friend of Freedom. We are controlled by a country of pedophiles and purely evil people!! Even my center liberal parents who hate everyone Trump see this for what it is and I never thought I would see that day. We truly are on our own and no one is coming to save us. Overwhelm this page with ideas and events the Fed Bois can’t investigate every idea I don't think anybody has a good answer, just a lot of less bad answers. 
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:09:02 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No one left? Lol. No politicians left. There are plenty of people left. Power to the people of this country. Fuck the career politicians. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is trump everything the left says he is? No. But he's bad enough that he shouldn't be president again. I honestly don't know who would be willing to be part of a new administration at this point. He had burned every bridge, every relationship, cashed in every last loyal person and left them out to dry, there's no one left. Besides that, no more 80 year olds. No one left? Lol. No politicians left. There are plenty of people left. Power to the people of this country. Fuck the career politicians. That is a big reason why DeSantis is my third choice as the Republican nominee. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:09:12 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Insert gif of Vagasil. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're not the boss of me. Start that thread or piss off. Why don't you defend your lawyer, DeSanto? He is not going to be president and you know it. Damn N_Ts are already salty, what will it be like 3 month from now? Insert gif of Vagasil. I wouldn't make the blanket statement that DeSantis will never be President. He might very well be some day. Might not be in 2024 but if he continues to have success in Florida, he might very well be a shoe-in in 2028. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:09:25 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Voting" lol. “When asked about election legislation this week, the president of the United States of America stated, “It’s not who can vote, but who gets to count the vote. Who counts the vote—that’s what this is about.” Sound familiar ? |
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