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Posted: 8/1/2020 9:35:07 AM EDT
In a first for the Arab world, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has begun start-up operations in the initial unit of its first nuclear power plant, the Emirates Nuclear Energy Corporation (ENEC) has said.
The Barakah Nuclear Energy Plant on the Gulf coast west of Abu Dhabi, a major oil producer, is being built by Korea Electric Power Corporation (KEPCO).
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/uae-starts-operations-arab-world-nuclear-power-plant-200801101118964.html



Link Posted: 8/1/2020 9:37:51 AM EDT
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They couldn’t design and operate a rubber band.  Just like all of the “Muslim” inventions and achievements during the era of Muslim Empire, it was Christians and Jews doing the intellectual lifting. Koreans building it didn’t discover fission
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 9:43:36 AM EDT
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Arabs? They have the potential to be worse at this than the Russians lol
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 9:43:56 AM EDT
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Good.

Link Posted: 8/1/2020 9:46:24 AM EDT
[#4]
Allhua akbar Chernobyl
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 9:57:38 AM EDT
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Just like paying the smart kid to do your homework.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 9:57:55 AM EDT
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It’s the UAE, not Iraq.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:05:25 AM EDT
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What could possibly go wrong?
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:05:49 AM EDT
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What's the worst that could happen?
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:09:06 AM EDT
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Oh wow... this will surely end well.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:10:23 AM EDT
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Well, sand does turn to glass with intense heat!
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:12:08 AM EDT
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Something, something glow, something something landing lights?
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:14:03 AM EDT
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Inshallah!
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:25:58 AM EDT
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8 years from the start of construction to start-up.  

Meanwhile in Europe and the US ...
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:28:50 AM EDT
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I remember that shit UAE 5.56 that came in about a decade ago. I had read about popped primers but had never actually seen one. That shit had 5 or so per box. One of them locked up an AR of mine. Fuck the UAE. They shouldn’t be allowed to have a nuclear anything.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:35:10 AM EDT
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who actually built it was it Korean workers or did they use UAE workers, that may make a big difference

and then who is going to operate it? That is an important question.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:35:41 AM EDT
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Yeah it's pathetic.

Our arrogance is only surpassed by our ignorance.

Look at the posts here.

Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:40:05 AM EDT
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I guess this is different than the plant in Iran for the last 20 years? Persian vs Arab?
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:41:03 AM EDT
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This won’t end well
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:41:55 AM EDT
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Sooo during the call to prayer that happens several times a day, the system is going to be on auto pilot eh?

Only took them what 60 years after the U.S.? 70?
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:42:16 AM EDT
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No kidding.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:43:06 AM EDT
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It’s the UAE, not Iraq.
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LoL
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:43:09 AM EDT
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I’ve been to the UAE multiple times.

Please, tell us how it won’t end well.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:43:18 AM EDT
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Good move on their part. Nuclear power is a very sound clean energy solution.  
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:46:11 AM EDT
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I see no glass shortage in their future.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:49:18 AM EDT
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If you already had the plans and all the paperwork done I bet you couldn't even break ground withing 8 years here.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:51:25 AM EDT
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Korean reactor makers know how to get shit done.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:54:34 AM EDT
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If when it goes to meltdown and it melts into the earth could it start a really big petrol fire in the ground?
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:55:17 AM EDT
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Eh, this should be a slap in the face to the USA.


They can make nuclear power plants in record time while we piss and moan over BLM.

Shows where our priorities are.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 10:59:55 AM EDT
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No such thing.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 11:00:41 AM EDT
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just like their desalination plants
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 11:03:22 AM EDT
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If you already had the plans and all the paperwork done I bet you couldn't even break ground withing 8 years here.

VC Summer took 10 years and 10 billion dollars to produce exactly jack shit.

We still haven't built a single AP1000 successfully here in the US while China has already built FOUR and moved on with their own even larger domestic design going forward.

It's really sad and pathetic.

Link Posted: 8/1/2020 11:04:47 AM EDT
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Not great, not terrible.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 11:24:30 AM EDT
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It’s the UAE, not Iraq.
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Yeah, that’s so much better.  
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 12:25:04 PM EDT
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(sigh)

They aren't claiming it was Arab-designed or built. It is well known that it is a KEPCO (GE) reactor design, and a lot of folks from TVA and NRC and the like have been advising them for years.

They are well aware that they have a lot of work to do to get their populace trained and educated to get along in the modern global economy, and they are throwing a lot of resources to get there.

Would you rather they had bought a Chinese or Russian reactor design, and paid their engineers and technicians top salaries to work there for 10 years?

They will probably also buy a lot of "Made in the USA" stuff to maintain and defend that plant for years to come. We should be glad they picked the USA as partners.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 12:27:05 PM EDT
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Exactly, they are probably responsible for keeping some of our most skilled and experienced workers in that industry employed until the next generation can (hopefully) take over. That is, if regulation doesn't strangle off our civil nuclear industry completely.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 12:46:32 PM EDT
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This is the United Arab Emirates, fool:

Link Posted: 8/1/2020 12:57:33 PM EDT
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The difference is the fuel cycle control.

The Iranians have sought a level of fuel cycle control that has no ROI, and positions them well for nefarious purposes and repurpose.   This is why the international community has a problem with the Iranian actions.

The Iranians' push for full civilian fuel cycle control is merely an obfuscation in scale and scope for their military programs.  In other words, have so many personnel involved and foreign monitors simply can't distinguish between the legitimate actors and bad actors.

In the case of the UAE, the Koreans are in charge of the fuel cycle, which greatly reduces the possibility of covert military program drafting off of the civilian program.

This may not seem like much of a difference to the average person, but in practical application, the difference is night and day.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:05:44 PM EDT
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So instead of using a cheap fuel that is available locally in almost unlimited quantities, they'll be using a fuel that isn't even produced locally.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:08:31 PM EDT
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Koreans and Philipinos are going to operate it. Arabs don't do anything themselves except collect the check.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:11:10 PM EDT
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did I make it before someone calls persians arabs
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:13:28 PM EDT
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I anticipate much hilarity as a result of Inshallah Nuclear Industries' attempts to run that thing.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:19:09 PM EDT
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The difference is the fuel cycle control.

The Iranians have sought a level of fuel cycle control that has no ROI, and positions them well for nefarious purposes and repurpose.   This is why the international community has a problem with the Iranian actions.

The Iranians' push for full civilian fuel cycle control is merely an obfuscation in scale and scope for their military programs.  In other words, have so many personnel involved and foreign monitors simply can't distinguish between the legitimate actors and bad actors.

In the case of the UAE, the Koreans are in charge of the fuel cycle, which greatly reduces the possibility of covert military program drafting off of the civilian program.

This may not seem like much of a difference to the average person, but in practical application, the difference is night and day.
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I guess this is different than the plant in Iran for the last 20 years? Persian vs Arab?

The difference is the fuel cycle control.

The Iranians have sought a level of fuel cycle control that has no ROI, and positions them well for nefarious purposes and repurpose.   This is why the international community has a problem with the Iranian actions.

The Iranians' push for full civilian fuel cycle control is merely an obfuscation in scale and scope for their military programs.  In other words, have so many personnel involved and foreign monitors simply can't distinguish between the legitimate actors and bad actors.

In the case of the UAE, the Koreans are in charge of the fuel cycle, which greatly reduces the possibility of covert military program drafting off of the civilian program.

This may not seem like much of a difference to the average person, but in practical application, the difference is night and day.

Uh no.

Not even close.

Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:21:24 PM EDT
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The UAE has two cities that are probably nicer than anything in the United States.

Yes, it is better than Iraq.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:21:40 PM EDT
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You made it before anyone gives a shit about the distinction.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:22:56 PM EDT
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Coastal nuke plants are environmental disasters waiting to happen.  See Fukushima.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:23:09 PM EDT
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NVM.

Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:23:15 PM EDT
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This is the United Arab Emirates, fool:

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Yeah, that’s so much better.  

This is the United Arab Emirates, fool:

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/UAE-2109x1406.jpg

Within 10 years of the oil running out, there won’t be one brick left on top of another in that Islamic paradise.  
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:25:56 PM EDT
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Will be a prime target for Iranian missiles and drones should things in the region go hot. Hope the UAE has ample defenses around it.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:27:16 PM EDT
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OH BOY!!

Link Posted: 8/1/2020 1:37:01 PM EDT
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They didn't have to design and operate it, they can afford to have someone else do it. Koreans to build it and probably Indians to run it.
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