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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:04:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty clear they were RDG-5s. Compared to M67s, they suck. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Rgd_5_hand_grenade.jpeg/800px-Rgd_5_hand_grenade.jpeg Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty clear they were RDG-5s. Compared to M67s, they suck. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Rgd_5_hand_grenade.jpeg/800px-Rgd_5_hand_grenade.jpeg Rdg5s are clearly American weapons stolen by the evil Zelenskyy for terrorism  Ehh, you’re wrong also 
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:05:10 AM EDT
[#2]
What’s a terrorist deputy?
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:06:13 AM EDT
[#3]
So far we have 9 votes for flashbangs over the fact Russian grenades are just really shitty.
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:06:56 AM EDT
[#4]
I am betting these are not fragmentation grenades.
I have seen what those do in confined spaces. That looks more like what concussion grenades, or flashbangs do. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:07:45 AM EDT
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They’re going to have a couple decades of that shit once people realize their loved ones are dead because some corrupt scumbags made a deal to launder money
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:08:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was just standing there with them in his hands for a decent amount of time before he pulled the pins. I guess some guy walking into a room with grenades is a normal thing there or something? People don't pay attention for shit. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:11:21 AM EDT
[#7]
More $$$$$ from The USA Will fix it.
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:11:49 AM EDT
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Based on the lack of fatalities and tosser just standing there as “grenades” are going off I suspect these were the devices used:
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:12:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe so, but these specs say most people in that room should have been greviously injured at the very least. Contains a 110-gram (3.9 oz) charge of TNT with an internal fragmentation liner that produces around 350 fragments with a fatality radius of around 3 metres (9.8 ft.) and a wounding radius of 25 metres (82 ft.) Do age and storage conditions degrade TNT? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty clear they were RDG-5s. Compared to M67s, they suck. Maybe so, but these specs say most people in that room should have been greviously injured at the very least. Contains a 110-gram (3.9 oz) charge of TNT with an internal fragmentation liner that produces around 350 fragments with a fatality radius of around 3 metres (9.8 ft.) and a wounding radius of 25 metres (82 ft.) Do age and storage conditions degrade TNT? You are luck if half the frag from any grenade doesn't go straight into the ground or air in the first place, the rest mostly fans out at leg level. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:13:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:14:30 AM EDT
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My take away is that guy is very tall or doors in Ukraine are shorter than in the US.
Anyway, we should send a few billion to those people to fight the climate change given off by the detonations of those grenades. Quoted: A third of the population has bailed as war refugees (mostly women). And the death of a large percentage of prime-age men pretty much means the place in a death spiral for replacement rate. On top of that, the place is beaten to hell... I can't remember where I read it, but it will take UKR's population something like 50-100yrs to recover. Those times may not be accurate, but it was a staggering number of years. ETA: My buddy says those are flashbangs. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:15:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are luck if half the frag from any grenade doesn't go straight into the ground or air in the first place, the rest mostly fans out at leg level. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Pretty clear they were RDG-5s. Compared to M67s, they suck. Maybe so, but these specs say most people in that room should have been greviously injured at the very least. Contains a 110-gram (3.9 oz) charge of TNT with an internal fragmentation liner that produces around 350 fragments with a fatality radius of around 3 metres (9.8 ft.) and a wounding radius of 25 metres (82 ft.) Do age and storage conditions degrade TNT? You are luck if half the frag from any grenade doesn't go straight into the ground or air in the first place, the rest mostly fans out at leg level. Regardless of frag, the concussion of the explosions are devastating. This does not look like that. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:16:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:17:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My take away is that guy is very tall or doors in Ukraine are shorter than in the US. Anyway, we should send a few billion to those people to fight the climate change given off by the detonations of those grenades. Don’t give neocons any ideas |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:18:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are luck if half the frag from any grenade doesn't go straight into the ground or air in the first place, the rest mostly fans out at leg level. IIRC, I believe the RDG5s have that stamped outer shell and the frag is actually a perforated wire coil. As I said before, dozens of videos of these going off right next to people without them being incapacitated. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:18:26 AM EDT
[#16]
Those were flash bangs..not HE
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:21:23 AM EDT
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lol Damn, dude gave no fucks.
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:25:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bomb the Kremlin they tried...they failed their enemy is in DC and London... |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:25:23 AM EDT
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So who is this guy? It's this one of Z Man's picks after "cleaning up" the government?
Disclose has this quote: "The man, named as council representative Serhiy Batrin, 54, is seen entering the meeting late and standing by the door during a heated discussion at the session in Keretsk, in the Zakarpattia region" |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:26:11 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did everyone just fucking sit there? They thought they were safe. 
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:28:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So who is this guy? It's this one of Z Man's picks after "cleaning up" the government? Disclose has this quote: "The man, named as council representative Serhiy Batrin, 54, is seen entering the meeting late and standing by the door during a heated discussion at the session in Keretsk, in the Zakarpattia region" |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:35:16 AM EDT
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Coming soon to a school board meeting near you?
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:35:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So far we have 9 votes for flashbangs over the fact Russian grenades are just really shitty. Yeah, “grenades” as a class can be really variable. I think it’s mentioned in “Shots Fired in Anger”, that GIs in Guadalcanal used to just stomp Japanese grenades into the mud and they were fine. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:42:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coming soon to a school board meeting near you? Used car salesman's last meeting. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:43:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats what it looks like when I pause it and take it frame by frame Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty clear they were RDG-5s. Compared to M67s, they suck. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Rgd_5_hand_grenade.jpeg/800px-Rgd_5_hand_grenade.jpeg Thats what it looks like when I pause it and take it frame by frame They're F1s. They have less explosive filler than the RGD5s and M67s, thus their sub performance. 
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:50:33 AM EDT
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I don't know shit about grenades, but we just saw the IDF video where an IDF soldiers shrugs off a grenade going off right if front of him. Then he rounds the corner and kills the Hammas guy.
It stands to reason that grenades aren't as effective as the movies make them? Start the video at 7:40ish.  Combat Footage of IDF Soldiers Fighting Hamas in Gaza |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:51:16 AM EDT
[#27]
At least he remembered to take the safety clip off
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:51:18 AM EDT
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She love me
She love me not She loves me |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:55:13 AM EDT
[#29]
Those aren't frag grenades.
Scroll through the video and look at the walls, tables, ext after they start booming. Or if they are, they are literal trash. But that concussion would have sucked BALLLLLLLLS |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:56:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They're F1s. They have less explosive filler than the RGD5s and M67s, thus their sub performance. https://d3n898qob6erx6.cloudfront.net/hazards/242/images/qzi7M34caGogIXL2oSwDXd0nwzxhLccVUI7Ki3Nf.jpg I guess now they are saying a couple people have died |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:00:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know shit about grenades, but we just saw the IDF video where an IDF soldiers shrugs off a grenade going off right if front of him. Then he rounds the corner and kills the Hammas guy. It stands to reason that grenades aren't as effective as the movies make them? Start the video at 7:40ish.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-w2cJSYbqIThere's two traditional types of grenades: Concussion and fragmentation. You know the historic German stick grenade? Those were concussion grenades. They were meant to be thrown by most everyone in a squad as they rushed a position. The concussion that would result would stun and disorientate the enemy as they stormed the position. No fragmentation meant that they were relatively safe to be fairly close to. Frag grenades have a very wide lethal zone, and are also known as defensive grenades, since you tossed one, you'd probably be in some sort of cover. If you just tossed one on a flat field and stood there, the chance of getting hit with a fragment is very high. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:01:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:08:08 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, three grenades in a small room and nobody died? I mean, tossing a grenade is one of the most anticlimactic things I've done after growing up watching '80s action movies (with huge fireball and vehicles being launched into the sky), but still, you'd have expected some deaths in that confined space. He'd have saved more lives if he'd taken out zelenski instead. Grenades are definitely underpowered compared to what most people expect after watching tv and movies. But three grenades in a smallish room with lots of people right in front of them, I'd expect a bit more. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:08:23 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing Ukraine can offer as a viable export now is their women. We got involved in a Civil War, should have minded our own damn business and given all the support and military equipment to Poland. Also kvas. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:09:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were they concussion grenades? Like flash bangs or something? Isn't there a difference between grenade types? I.e. ones with more bang and less fragmentation versus lots of fragmentation? I don't think those have separate fuses that are triggered by a spoon release. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:12:26 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Flashbangs? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wow, three grenades in a small room and nobody died? I mean, tossing a grenade is one of the most anticlimactic things I've done after growing up watching '80s action movies (with huge fireball and vehicles being launched into the sky), but still, you'd have expected some deaths in that confined space. He'd have saved more lives if he'd taken out zelenski instead. Flashbangs? No, just shitty commie nades. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:17:33 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Definitely possible (F1 has 2.1oz), but to me the shape looked like the stamped RGD5(3.9oz). Neither are great compared to the M67 (6.5oz of a better explosive, plus a hull that frags much better). I guess now they are saying a couple people have died Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They're F1s. They have less explosive filler than the RGD5s and M67s, thus their sub performance. https://d3n898qob6erx6.cloudfront.net/hazards/242/images/qzi7M34caGogIXL2oSwDXd0nwzxhLccVUI7Ki3Nf.jpg I guess now they are saying a couple people have died Yeah, Comp B is better. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:17:51 AM EDT
[#38]
No Medals Of Honor in that room!
 Weird that he dropped the second two just at his feet, I would've rolled the first one on to the main table, then the other ones into people's laps. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:20:18 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did everyone just fucking sit there? Normalcy bias. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:22:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So who is this guy? It's this one of Z Man's picks after "cleaning up" the government? Disclose has this quote: "The man, named as council representative Serhiy Batrin, 54, is seen entering the meeting late and standing by the door during a heated discussion at the session in Keretsk, in the Zakarpattia region" You've got a really bad case of Zelenskyy derangement syndrome  Zelenkyy is responsible for: USA inflation post 1/20/21 Cold sores USA national debt (all of it) Anal seepage Why your check is not up 500% due to donating to the Trump campaign poor sex life Low T Why you can't get a date |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:27:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's two traditional types of grenades: Concussion and fragmentation. You know the historic German stick grenade? Those were concussion grenades. They were meant to be thrown by most everyone in a squad as they rushed a position. The concussion that would result would stun and disorientate the enemy as they stormed the position. No fragmentation meant that they were relatively safe to be fairly close to. Frag grenades have a very wide lethal zone, and are also known as defensive grenades, since you tossed one, you'd probably be in some sort of cover. If you just tossed one on a flat field and stood there, the chance of getting hit with a fragment is very high. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't know shit about grenades, but we just saw the IDF video where an IDF soldiers shrugs off a grenade going off right if front of him. Then he rounds the corner and kills the Hammas guy. It stands to reason that grenades aren't as effective as the movies make them? Start the video at 7:40ish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-w2cJSYbqIThere's two traditional types of grenades: Concussion and fragmentation. You know the historic German stick grenade? Those were concussion grenades. They were meant to be thrown by most everyone in a squad as they rushed a position. The concussion that would result would stun and disorientate the enemy as they stormed the position. No fragmentation meant that they were relatively safe to be fairly close to. Frag grenades have a very wide lethal zone, and are also known as defensive grenades, since you tossed one, you'd probably be in some sort of cover. If you just tossed one on a flat field and stood there, the chance of getting hit with a fragment is very high. The Germans also had a *sleeve* type deal you could put on the potato mashers that would give them some frag. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:31:43 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe so, but these specs say most people in that room should have been greviously injured at the very least. Contains a 110-gram (3.9 oz) charge of TNT with an internal fragmentation liner that produces around 350 fragments with a fatality radius of around 3 metres (9.8 ft.) and a wounding radius of 25 metres (82 ft.) Do age and storage conditions degrade TNT? I dont think Russia would EVER bull shit about the effectiveness or composition of any munitions. Nor would any Russian manufacturer EVER skimp or take shortcuts. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:33:06 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did everyone just fucking sit there? Because there are actually 3 normal reactions to abnormal shit happening. You've heard of fight or flight, but the most common is to freeze. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:33:07 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now only if American politics were that entertaining. I'd love to see some idiot congress critters tossing grenades at each other. Would make watching C-Span worth my time.  Here, here. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:33:17 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Were they concussion grenades? Like flash bangs or something? Yes. 'At least that what I read elsewhere. No deaths. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:35:24 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn! That old dude that was just staring at it on the ground! I use to think more people freak out than freeze up. After years on the medical field, I know for a fact that waaaay more people freeze than freak out. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:36:12 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So far we have 9 votes for flashbangs over the fact Russian grenades are just really shitty. Well.....if the "grenade" doesn't do grenadie stuff, isn't it effectively a flashbang?
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:36:39 AM EDT
[#48]
That guy hates meeting even more than I do!
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:36:50 AM EDT
[#49]
Best screenshot I could get of glorious grenadesky:
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:38:33 AM EDT
[#50]
“Mrs. Chairwoman, the grenades have the floor.”
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