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Posted: 5/9/2021 9:53:04 PM EST
[#1]
Filled everything up. Not that I think we are going to run out of fas per say. However the toilet paper retards and unprepared will have gas $6 a gallon by Tuesday. Least I can make it a couple of weeks now, when it comes back to our new normal of 3.25
Then we get hurricanes again and we will likely be lucky to round his year out at $4. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 9:53:32 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why I have a 300 gallon barrel of gasoline I keep full on hand  |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 9:54:27 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL enjoy your high gas prices you dinosaurs! Tesla to the moon! I’m paying 2 cents per mile! LOL How many hours would you need to stop and charge going to the moon. 250-300 miles then stop and charge I thought about renting one for a Ohio-Florida drive. I figured charging would add 8-10 hours to the drive one way If they could get the charge time to 10-15 minutes then I would consider one |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 9:56:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It has sold virtually every Tesla ever sold, though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Enjoy sitting on your arrogant ass when the same hackers hit the electrical grid. Self-rightousness and smug attitude won't win you any friends. It has sold virtually every Tesla ever sold, though.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 9:56:33 PM EST
[#5]
Here's what Biden is doing to help.
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Posted: 5/9/2021 9:57:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you keep it from going bad? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is why I have a 300 gallon barrel of gasoline I keep full on hand |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 9:59:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Enjoy sitting on your arrogant ass when the same hackers hit the electrical grid. Self-rightousness and smug attitude won't win you any friends. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL enjoy your high gas prices you dinosaurs! Tesla to the moon! I’m paying 2 cents per mile! LOL Enjoy sitting on your arrogant ass when the same hackers hit the electrical grid. Self-rightousness and smug attitude won't win you any friends. It's Not just hackers. Tornadoes, lightning and hurricanes can all leave an electric vehicle stranded. 
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:03:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All this bullshit reminds me of this... General Beringer : Just unplug the goddamn thing! Jesus Christ! McKittrick : That won't work, General. It would interpret a shutdown as the destruction of NORAD. The computers in the silos would carry out their last instructions. They'd launch. General Beringer : Can't we disarm the missiles? Pat Healy : Over a thousand of them? There's no time. At this rate it will hit the launch codes in... 5.3 minutes. General Beringer : [smiles sarcastically at McKittrick] Mr. McKittrick, after very careful consideration, sir, I've come to the conclusion that your new defense system sucks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't they have a manual over ride or something. How did pipelines work before the internet and computers? General Beringer : Just unplug the goddamn thing! Jesus Christ! McKittrick : That won't work, General. It would interpret a shutdown as the destruction of NORAD. The computers in the silos would carry out their last instructions. They'd launch. General Beringer : Can't we disarm the missiles? Pat Healy : Over a thousand of them? There's no time. At this rate it will hit the launch codes in... 5.3 minutes. General Beringer : [smiles sarcastically at McKittrick] Mr. McKittrick, after very careful consideration, sir, I've come to the conclusion that your new defense system sucks.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:04:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We've already had "exemptions" for hazmat essential truckers not too long ago. I believe it was +2 hours for on-duty, and drive-time. I never took advantage of that because we slip-seat around here, and try to keep it to 12hr shifts. I've only ever used the 16hr rule twice in 9 years, and that was because of weather road closure issues. If this goes on for a bit, you'll start seeing fuel hauling companies start to send Sleeper units up to that region instead of the more common day-cabs. Not sure where drivers go to load up there, but it could be a pretty long haul for a single tanker of fuel. Around here, our newest "long" turn is exactly 575 miles round trip. Which makes for a bit of driving. Usually takes me right around 11 hours to do that run: pre-trip, drive to pipeline and load, drive across the state, unload, drive back, fuel and post-trip. Last time there was a pipeline problem, truckers could fill up in Tuscaloosa, Alabama and go east. This time, I assume that they have to fill up in Texas. They also used barges from Texas to New England. 
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:09:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe so but do you really think upper management is going to admit that or shitcan a couple IT guys instead............Shit roll downhill. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Someone in IT just lost their job. It is just as likely that IT was begging for upper mgmt to do something to prevent this and got overruled because “costs too much.” Maybe so but do you really think upper management is going to admit that or shitcan a couple IT guys instead............Shit roll downhill. CISO/CSO will take the fall when in reality it is the CEO/CFO’s fault for not funding security what they need. I’ve seen it in plenty of companies. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:10:06 PM EST
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I expected this to happen to the electric grid first. Really didn’t know about the gas pipeline vulnerability. We’ve got holes all over.
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:13:53 PM EST
[#12]
FBI will be on finding the hackers right after they find the Grandma that was in the Capital on January 6th.
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:15:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm so top off pronto?? Glad I just filled up |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:18:38 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryWhat are the facts behind that line of cars? "Tesla Energy Crisis - Thanksgiving 2019 @ San Luis Obispo, CA Supercharger Station. 15+ Teslas waiting to recharge at 4:45pm Thanksgiving Day..... The previous day, Tesla brought a Megapack that is said to be good for charging ~100 Teslas seen here - https://youtu.be/nrog1Zx7-iQ? "Tesla supercharging stations charge with up to 150 kW of power distributed between two cars with a maximum of 150 kW per car, depending on version. They take about 20 minutes to charge to 50%, 40 minutes to charge to 80%, and 75 minutes to 100% on the original 85 kWh Model S."" |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:21:37 PM EST
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Quoted: So $3.50 a gallon tomorrow? I filled up all my vehicles and all my cans Saturday morning when I first heard about it. When they had the leak just outside of Huntersville and the line was shutdown for 17 days most of our stations around here closed up after 3-4 days. Paid $2.79. Gas taxes in NC suck |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:23:01 PM EST
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So this means gas will be cheaper in Houston since they'll want to do something with all the refined products that aren't going down the pipeline to the east coast, right?
Not that I care too much, I've only put 1500 miles on my car in the last four months. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:25:24 PM EST
[#17]
Really wish we had the fortitude to drop JADAMs on those responsible
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:26:42 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for posting OP. Gonna fuel up tonight Yep, topped off all vehicles |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:27:59 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL. The "State of Emergency" essentially allows fuel truckers to work overtime. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/A-cyberattack-forced-a-temporary-shut-down-of-the-largest-US-fuel-pipeline/5-2451049/&page=3 My then-GF (now SO) had her first car totaled by such a driver. Idiot decided to merge and ran her right off the road by brute force. If her father hadn't happened to have been heading to work at the time and seen it happen she'd have been done for. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:30:20 PM EST
[#20]
2021 is going to be a shit show. We just thought 2020 was bad.
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:31:53 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We have went from 2.39 prior to Jan 20th to currently 3.39. The gov is flexing on us hard and it’s only going to get worse Regular unleaded was 1.59 when pedo and the hoe took office. I paid $2.59 today. Should be $4 in no time. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:35:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL enjoy your high gas prices you dinosaurs! Tesla to the moon! I'm paying 2 cents per mile! LOL I am retired and can stay home for a few weeks. Get some rest for work tomorrow. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:36:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This feels manufactured  Yep. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:36:53 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So $3.50 a gallon tomorrow? |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:37:08 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many hours would you need to stop and charge going to the moon. 250-300 miles then stop and charge I thought about renting one for a Ohio-Florida drive. I figured charging would add 8-10 hours to the drive one way If they could get the charge time to 10-15 minutes then I would consider one Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL enjoy your high gas prices you dinosaurs! Tesla to the moon! I’m paying 2 cents per mile! LOL How many hours would you need to stop and charge going to the moon. 250-300 miles then stop and charge I thought about renting one for a Ohio-Florida drive. I figured charging would add 8-10 hours to the drive one way If they could get the charge time to 10-15 minutes then I would consider one It’s about a 30 minute break every 200-250 miles, which actually makes the drive easier to handle. Couple that with autopilot and a 500 mile drive is nothing. I actually feel rested and fine after a drive like that versus wired and exhausted in any other car I drove. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:39:35 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Man we can't catch a break... Thats the whole idea.. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:40:17 PM EST
[#27]
Software solutions are vulnerable solutions.
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:44:36 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Filled the F350 this morning, as always. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/_jpg-1936577.JPG Personal stores GTG. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/IMG_20201007_171151_jpg-1936579.JPG |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:46:57 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Inside the pipeline control room: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_1600/sivbp5bgqzaeidixderc.jpg I see you've never been in a pipeline control room. 100% guaranteed you've got some employees in shorts and flip flops on the table with a remote in one hand and a leftover donut from Sat. morning in the other right now. Ain't shit they're doing if the whole pipe is shut down...just fielding calls and taking notes in the log books. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:47:19 PM EST
[#30]
I have to fill up every 5 days to get back and forth to work. Topping off the tank ahead of a shortage or price hike only buys me a week. It is what it is, when you commute to work it's pay to play.
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:52:55 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s about a 30 minute break every 200-250 miles, which actually makes the drive easier to handle. Couple that with autopilot and a 500 mile drive is nothing. I actually feel rested and fine after a drive like that versus wired and exhausted in any other car I drove. That is an interesting comparison. Helpful. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:54:28 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So $3.50 a gallon tomorrow? It's been that here for months already. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:58:07 PM EST
[#33]
It's George Bush, and Donald Trump's fault...
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:58:15 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL enjoy your high gas prices you dinosaurs! Tesla to the moon! I’m paying 2 cents per mile! LOL Sure, for 50 miles... 
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:58:20 PM EST
[#35]
 Why isn't this a good thing. I thought the current government hated fossil fuels. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:59:48 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Regular unleaded was 1.59 when pedo and the hoe took office. I paid $2.59 today. Should be $4 in no time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We have went from 2.39 prior to Jan 20th to currently 3.39. The gov is flexing on us hard and it’s only going to get worse Regular unleaded was 1.59 when pedo and the hoe took office. I paid $2.59 today. Should be $4 in no time. They're both illegitimate in office. It's all part of the global commie plan. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 11:01:41 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL enjoy your high gas prices you dinosaurs! Tesla to the moon! I’m paying 2 cents per mile! LOL Are you retarded? Almost everything you buy/freight is shipped using fossil fuels. Your Tesla is meaningless. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 11:01:53 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's George Bush, and Donald Trump's fault... Bush was terrible. Don't lump the two in.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 11:08:23 PM EST
[#39]
You east coast guys are fucked if you'll don't have some gas stored, they just created a gas shortage panic. lol
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Posted: 5/9/2021 11:13:25 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is an interesting comparison. Helpful. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s about a 30 minute break every 200-250 miles, which actually makes the drive easier to handle. Couple that with autopilot and a 500 mile drive is nothing. I actually feel rested and fine after a drive like that versus wired and exhausted in any other car I drove. That is an interesting comparison. Helpful. Depending on the supercharger distance and terrain you may charge more often, there’s a website that will plot out waypoints and total drive time including charging. Here’s Los Angeles to Kanab, UT, about 500 miles. You will need a destination charger wherever you’re going or you’ll need more charge time before your destination. 
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Posted: 5/10/2021 3:05:26 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats the whole idea.. Strangely it’s working well. Only thing that bothers me now is my best mileage vehicle only gets 14mpg.
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Posted: 5/10/2021 3:08:07 AM EST
[#42]
If we had more pipelines, the temporary loss of one wouldn't be such a big deal
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Posted: 5/10/2021 3:18:39 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FBI will be on finding the hackers right after they find the Grandma that was in the Capital on January 6th. I was assured all hands are on deck and top men and women are on it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2021 3:33:29 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was assured all hands are on deck and top men and women are on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: FBI will be on finding the hackers right after they find the Grandma that was in the Capital on January 6th. I was assured all hands are on deck and top men and women are on it. Looking for Grandma or the pipeline hackers? |
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Posted: 5/10/2021 3:43:03 AM EST
[#45]
Somehow this will be blamed on white right wing extremists.
What a shit show the east coast is gonna be. |
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Posted: 5/10/2021 3:49:01 AM EST
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Posted: 5/10/2021 3:54:04 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Depending on the supercharger distance and terrain you may charge more often, there’s a website that will plot out waypoints and total drive time including charging. Here’s Los Angeles to Kanab, UT, about 500 miles. You will need a destination charger wherever you’re going or you’ll need more charge time before your destination. https://i.ibb.co/P9RwF7X/9-A8-F1-E4-E-47-BC-4-F99-9-D3-B-95474928-AD5-B.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It’s about a 30 minute break every 200-250 miles, which actually makes the drive easier to handle. Couple that with autopilot and a 500 mile drive is nothing. I actually feel rested and fine after a drive like that versus wired and exhausted in any other car I drove. That is an interesting comparison. Helpful. Depending on the supercharger distance and terrain you may charge more often, there’s a website that will plot out waypoints and total drive time including charging. Here’s Los Angeles to Kanab, UT, about 500 miles. You will need a destination charger wherever you’re going or you’ll need more charge time before your destination. https://i.ibb.co/P9RwF7X/9-A8-F1-E4-E-47-BC-4-F99-9-D3-B-95474928-AD5-B.png I drive 1200 miles to my place in spain a couple times a year. We stop every two hours or so for a coffee break and let the dogs do their thing. Having an electric car like that would be perfectly doable. ( chargers arn’t here yet) |
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Posted: 5/10/2021 3:54:28 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone in IT just lost their job. Rajesh has been replaced with Rajeev. |
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Posted: 5/10/2021 4:18:13 AM EST
[#49]
How is it that in the day and age of internet hacking, critical infrastructure like this is still connected to the internet?
You'd think it would be completely isolated from constant connectivity and use encrypted data bursts to control components. Shit like this shouldn't be possible. |
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Posted: 5/10/2021 4:48:58 AM EST
[#50]
Just a a dry run for when they eventually ban fossil fuels.
Conditioning everyone for higher fuel prices along with shortages |
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