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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 7:56:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
Over 203+ kilometers of Russian territory in the Kursk region has been captured by Ukraine in the last 30 hours during a “surprise offensive”. Shooting down multiple Russian KA52 and MI28 attack helicopters yesterday.
Russian bloggers and locals have confirmed the success and panic across multiple channels and Russians have just stated the town of Sudzha has been captured and Ukraine is halfway to the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant. Reports are they still advancing at this moment and Russians have been using Iskander ballistic missiles on their own towns/territories going after things as small as MRAPS…..which is not ideal. It’s possible this is a diversionary tactic or an attempt to pull Russian forces away (which also shows Russias manpower issues with NOBODY protecting their border during a war). It would be a tall order for Ukraine to hold long term (and the west wouldn’t “allow it) but capturing a NPP without the wests permission would be……interesting. Unfortunatly Ukraine won’t be allowed to capture it or stay as they have an arm tied behind their back regardless if they were able to. https://x.com/MalcontentmentT/status/1821134031876247605?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw More info and updates in the “Axis” thread for those interested. Edit: Supposed Russian claims of 400+ kilometer area. https://x.com/MalcontentmentT/status/1821631550997586256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw More reports, supposedly from Russians of Ukrainians entering another portion of Russia “in mass”. Russians freaking out https://x.com/Seveerity/status/1822382140560220240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 7:57:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: eurotrash]
[#1]
Excellent news if true. Attacking Russian soil is an effective psy-op, if nothing else.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 7:58:07 AM EST
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Neat
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Posted: 8/7/2024 7:59:47 AM EST
[#3]
They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day.
Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:00:11 AM EST
[#4]
Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Over 203+ kilometers of Russian territory in the Kursk region has been captured Linear or square? |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:00:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day. Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. Square miles. I did a double-take, too. It's just a raid far from the front-lines, though. It'll be back to normal in about a week. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:01:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day. Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. These are Russian reports. Up to 18k deep and across a 10-12k width of the front. Reports are coming in from plenty of non-ukraine sources if you want to take a peek. |
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BHS
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:01:36 AM EST
[#7]
Interesting move. I wonder if they’re setting up a trade for formerly Ukrainian controlled territories?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:02:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day. Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. When there are zero defenders and you can just drive through it’s pretty easy. Word is there are NO real Russian defenses to speak of. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:02:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: delemorte]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: These are Russian reports. Up to 18k deep and across a 10-12k width of the front. Reports are coming in from plenty of non-ukraine sources if you want to take a peek. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By delemorte: They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day. Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. These are Russian reports. Up to 18k deep and across a 10-12k width of the front. Reports are coming in from plenty of non-ukraine sources if you want to take a peek. to give some context. In the first day of the ground offensive during Operation Desert Storm, coalition forces advanced approximately 20 to 30 miles into Iraqi territory. https://history.army.mil/html/bookshelves/resmat/desert-storm/index.html |
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USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:03:20 AM EST
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You sure you don't mean 203 yards or meters, instead of km?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:03:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kilroytheknifesnob: Interesting move. I wonder if they’re setting up a trade for formerly Ukrainian controlled territories? I doubt they are digging in to hold anything. 1) They aren’t allowed to hold Russian proper territory. 2) Russia will throw as much as they can to dislodge them. My wildcard is if they can gain control of the Kursk nuclear plant….that would be interesting (west wouldn’t allow it). |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:04:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: to give some context. In the first day of the ground offensive during Operation Desert Storm, coalition forces advanced approximately 20 to 30 miles into Iraqi territory. https://history.army.mil/html/bookshelves/resmat/desert-storm/index.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By delemorte: They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day. Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. These are Russian reports. Up to 18k deep and across a 10-12k width of the front. Reports are coming in from plenty of non-ukraine sources if you want to take a peek. to give some context. In the first day of the ground offensive during Operation Desert Storm, coalition forces advanced approximately 20 to 30 miles into Iraqi territory. https://history.army.mil/html/bookshelves/resmat/desert-storm/index.html Now do width/sq |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:06:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: delemorte]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Now do width/sq Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By delemorte: They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day. Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. These are Russian reports. Up to 18k deep and across a 10-12k width of the front. Reports are coming in from plenty of non-ukraine sources if you want to take a peek. to give some context. In the first day of the ground offensive during Operation Desert Storm, coalition forces advanced approximately 20 to 30 miles into Iraqi territory. https://history.army.mil/html/bookshelves/resmat/desert-storm/index.html Now do width/sq moving 1 foot across 1k miles may seem like a lot in a number but truly means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Playing stupid games with numbers with no real gain in territory is click baity. "Every one take one step forward!!!! WE ARE WINNING!!!!" Rating troll |
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USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:06:26 AM EST
[#14]
How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here...
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:07:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JG_Wentworth: You sure you don't mean 203 yards or meters, instead of km? I’m not there. Ask all the pro Russian telegram accounts that are saying this and reporting the town of Sudzha is under Ukrainian “control”. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:07:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: nmxdavenn]
[#16]
Two countries fighting each other and someone found a weak point over a massive front?
Say it’s not so! Truly unprecedented. Good thing the Russias are too stupid to find weak points themselves. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:07:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here... they dont. Its click bait. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:09:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here... Maybe ask the Russians who are reporting it. Like I said, likely a mass raid to show the areas that Russia has NO ONE to defend. Russia realizes Ukraine isn’t allowed by the west to hold territory in formal parts of Russia so Russia doesn’t keep anyone there. It will likely be proven true and Ukraine end up leaving. It shows the way Ukraine is handcuffed. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:09:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte:
they dont. Its click bait. 
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USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:10:14 AM EST
[#20]
Well the vatnik signal went out pretty fast.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:10:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: they dont. Its click bait. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here... they dont. Its click bait. “It can’t be true! I refuse to see it!” Dude. Do your own research. I now it’s not what you want to hear but it ain’t coming from Ukraine but from established “Fuck Ukraine” mass accounts and videos. It’s up to you if you care to look. I’m reporting what they’ve said to the people who don’t like looking. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:11:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Maybe ask the Russians who are reporting it. Like I said, likely a mass raid to show the areas that Russia has NO ONE to defend. Russia realizes Ukraine isn’t allowed by the west to hold territory in formal parts of Russia so Russia doesn’t keep anyone there. It will likely be proven true and Ukraine end up leaving. It shows the way Ukraine is handcuffed. Damn, the west really is the big bad wolf huh? If only Ukraine paid for their own shit….. then they would really be on a tear and kicking ass! |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:13:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: I doubt they are digging in to hold anything. 1) They aren’t allowed to hold Russian proper territory. 2) Russia will throw as much as they can to dislodge them. My wildcard is if they can gain control of the Kursk nuclear plant….that would be interesting (west wouldn’t allow it). According to what? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:13:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: DaveM4K]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: they dont. Its click bait. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here... they dont. Its click bait. It is not clickbait but it also does not mean that ukraine is winning anything. I could post the russian telegram channels but I not doing it. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:17:52 AM EST
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If true it might be a clever move. Russia has been complacent about its border, and now it cant afford to be. Resources will have to be diverted to prevent a repeat, and that weakens their efforts in Ukraine.
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:18:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: Goodn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: When there are zero defenders and you can just drive through it’s pretty easy. Word is there are NO real Russian defenses to speak of. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By delemorte: They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day. Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. When there are zero defenders and you can just drive through it’s pretty easy. Word is there are NO real Russian defenses to speak of. In some of the videos I have watched. A lot of the conscript Russian soldiers are just surrendering. When interviewed they say they do not support the war. And a lot of them say they have essentially been abandoned and left to their own devices by command. When asked their feelings about Putin they are pretty much neutral on that subject. 
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USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:20:31 AM EST
[#27]
How many Panzer divisions did they need to take Kursk?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:20:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4K: It is not clickbait but it also does not mean that ukraine is winning anything. I could post the russian telegram channels but I not doing it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4K: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here... they dont. Its click bait. It is not clickbait but it also does not mean that ukraine is winning anything. I could post the russian telegram channels but I not doing it. Youd be playing the long game since these are Russian local govt channels and long time pro-Russia channels as well. Something relatively big is currently occurring from the latest reports and it appears to be the biggest and broadest “raid” into Russia itself we’ve seen since the war started. You don’t have to listen to me….but it doesn’t really change what is actually happening. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:21:29 AM EST
[#29]
Is this actual Ukrainian troops going over, or more caw's paw games with Russian rebels? Because the latter has happen several times, with big area claims that proved to be nothing because they didn't stay anywhere.
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:23:15 AM EST
[#30]
 Last Ditch Effort Or Larger Strategy? Ukraine's HUGE Northern Gamble - Ukraine Map/News Update This comments sums it up nicely imo.  Attached File |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:24:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Is this actual Ukrainian troops going over, or more caw's paw games with Russian rebels? Because the latter has happen several times, with big area claims that proved to be nothing because they didn't stay anywhere. They’ve never got as deep as this before. The town of Sudzha is evacuating….who knows if they plan anything more than. a raid but this is drastically bigger than before. Russian mil channels state that there is a ton of Ukrainian air defense in the area so no aircraft can operate to defend. Go to the big thread. They are better at posting sources and you can do your own assessments. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:24:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: “It can’t be true! I refuse to see it!” Dude. Do your own research. I now it’s not what you want to hear but it ain’t coming from Ukraine but from established “Fuck Ukraine” mass accounts and videos. It’s up to you if you care to look. I’m reporting what they’ve said to the people who don’t like looking. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here... they dont. Its click bait. “It can’t be true! I refuse to see it!” Dude. Do your own research. I now it’s not what you want to hear but it ain’t coming from Ukraine but from established “Fuck Ukraine” mass accounts and videos. It’s up to you if you care to look. I’m reporting what they’ve said to the people who don’t like looking. A. You are the one saying its so and every one is saying its so. Its up to you to prove your claim. B. Randos on telegram told us for forever fanciful stories of the ghost of kiev and huge gains from the spring offensive that all turned out to be bunk. Provide a legit news source vs some rando on twitter to telegram or its bunk. your trolling. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:24:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evil_Ryu: Square miles. I did a double-take, too. It's just a raid far from the front-lines, though. It'll be back to normal in about a week. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evil_Ryu: Originally Posted By delemorte: They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day. Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. Square miles. I did a double-take, too. It's just a raid far from the front-lines, though. It'll be back to normal in about a week. This, I think they were trying to relieve pressure from the Russian's North group. The Ukies do this about twice a year, they go in, then retreat. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:24:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: According to what? Specific ROE orders from the strongest bestest POTUS ever. I'm sure State Dept assholes have been yelling into phones since the incursion "you cannot attack Russia!!! We gave assurances!!!". Fuck fighting yet another war with hands tied. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:25:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: They’ve never got as deep as this before. The town of Sudzha is evacuating….who knows if they plan anything more than. a raid but this is drastically bigger than before. Russian mil channels state that there is a ton of Ukrainian air defense in the area so no aircraft can operate to defend. Go to the big thread. They are better at posting sources and you can do your own assessments. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By governmentman: Is this actual Ukrainian troops going over, or more caw's paw games with Russian rebels? Because the latter has happen several times, with big area claims that proved to be nothing because they didn't stay anywhere. They’ve never got as deep as this before. The town of Sudzha is evacuating….who knows if they plan anything more than. a raid but this is drastically bigger than before. Russian mil channels state that there is a ton of Ukrainian air defense in the area so no aircraft can operate to defend. Go to the big thread. They are better at posting sources and you can do your own assessments. how deep? Cause it aint 125 miles. You mean wide? |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:25:57 AM EST
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Russian commentators have noted that three gas pipelines to Western Europe meet at a metering station at Sudzha, which Ukraine just captured. Should the metering station be unmanned by the evacuation of the staff or be damaged by an errant bomb (or "errant" bomb) Russia would be unable to bill their customers, which they were still supplying as far as I can tell, albeit at a declining quantity as contracts run out. So this could develop into a significant blow to their finances.
Also there's the nuclear power plant that the Ukrainian offensive is approaching. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:26:14 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nmxdavenn:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6SVSQhRfOAThis comments sums it up nicely imo. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/478694/IMG_2914_jpeg-3287978.JPG Just realize you’re going to get biased takes either way. Whether you think it’s from me, other “Uke Bros” or your preferred talking head. I don’t know what’s happening and I’m reporting what’s currently going on. No idea how this turns out. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:26:43 AM EST
[#38]
I'm a little concerned this is bs by Russia to make as an excuse to use tactical nukes.
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:27:08 AM EST
[#39]
Given how long it takes Russia to get troops into positions, this is a good move to force Russia to divert assets.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:27:58 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: A. You are the one saying its so and every one is saying its so. Its up to you to prove your claim. B. Randos on telegram told us for forever fanciful stories of the ghost of kiev and huge gains from the spring offensive that all turned out to be bunk. Provide a legit news source vs some rando on twitter to telegram or its bunk. your trolling. It’s up to you to figure it out. What “news source” are you wanting that will make you believe? I know you’re angry (for some reason) but I can’t download info into your brain and MAKE you believe anything is true or false. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:28:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: nmxdavenn]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Just realize you’re going to get biased takes either way. Whether you think it’s from me, other “Uke Bros” or your preferred talking head. I don’t know what’s happening and I’m reporting what’s currently going on. No idea how this turns out. Huh? He’s literally talking about the same thing you are. Just with….. ya know…… actual details. Not just random unsubstantiated “they’re firing rockets at their own cities!!!” Stuff |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:28:50 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nmxdavenn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6SVSQhRfOAThis comments sums it up nicely imo. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/478694/IMG_2914_jpeg-3287978.JPG Interesting take but not based on reality. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:29:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: This, I think they were trying to relieve pressure from the Russian's North group. The Ukies do this about twice a year, they go in, then retreat. I think you are probably correct. It's the same tactic used by Russia since WWII. They just did the same thing in Kharkiv I believe: Attack an undefended area and force the enemy to either send reinforcements or abandon the sector. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:29:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I'm a little concerned this is bs by Russia to make as an excuse to use tactical nukes. Against who? They say all of Ukraine is theirs, so they'd be nuking their own territory. Not that it wouldn't be logical to a bunch of Russian drunks. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:30:29 AM EST
[#45]
Suicide. The Russian will murder them and every house, dog, and child who gets in the way.
 This smells more of a sacrifice to drag others into this mess. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:30:32 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: A. You are the one saying its so and every one is saying its so. Its up to you to prove your claim. B. Randos on telegram told us for forever fanciful stories of the ghost of kiev and huge gains from the spring offensive that all turned out to be bunk. Provide a legit news source vs some rando on twitter to telegram or its bunk. your trolling. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here... they dont. Its click bait. "It can't be true! I refuse to see it!" Dude. Do your own research. I now it's not what you want to hear but it ain't coming from Ukraine but from established "Fuck Ukraine" mass accounts and videos. It's up to you if you care to look. I'm reporting what they've said to the people who don't like looking. A. You are the one saying its so and every one is saying its so. Its up to you to prove your claim. B. Randos on telegram told us for forever fanciful stories of the ghost of kiev and huge gains from the spring offensive that all turned out to be bunk. Provide a legit news source vs some rando on twitter to telegram or its bunk. your trolling. Do you have access to Chat Surfer? |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:30:49 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4K: Interesting take but not based on reality. Reality would be a random push is a good idea when the front is collapsing everywhere else? They can suffer those losses without it having effects elsewhere where the manpower is desperately needed? |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:31:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Russian commentators have noted that three gas pipelines to Western Europe meet at a metering station at Sudzha, which Ukraine just captured. Should the metering station be unmanned by the evacuation of the staff or be damaged by an errant bomb (or "errant" bomb) Russia would be unable to bill their customers, which they were still supplying as far as I can tell, albeit at a declining quantity as contracts run out. So this could develop into a significant blow to their finances. Also there's the nuclear power plant that the Ukrainian offensive is approaching. The plot has thickened. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:32:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nophun: Suicide. The Russian will murder them and every house, dog, and child who gets in the way. This smells more of a sacrifice to drag others into this mess. How? There are no Russian troops in the area that they struck. I'm pretty confident that this was a hit and run to try and pull troops away from areas within Ukraine. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 8:33:37 AM EST
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I don’t know why these threads create so much resentment. You all should be happy Ukraine scored a win today.
Unless you support Russia’s unprovoked invasion 
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