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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:52:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: I'll never understand why people care so much about Ukraine here is it because Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi you to? It's very interesting to watch from far away but do you Ukebros all have family in Ukraine or something? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: Originally Posted By BigB32: Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won’t do what it takes to hurt Russia’s economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. I'll never understand why people care so much about Ukraine here is it because Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi you to? It's very interesting to watch from far away but do you Ukebros all have family in Ukraine or something? It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:53:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: Pallas]
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This is typical of a corrupt government attacking the peaceful homeland of a peaceful country trying to liberate the people from the yolk of a corrupt government.
This is nothing but gaslighting, deflection, and hibachiary. 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:53:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cranberry1: I thought Ukraine had a man shortage , would be a shame if they got encircled by Ivan . I think they would if they actually stick around. Thing is no Russians are there. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:53:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Do they even have anything there to encircle them?  If this is true, it sounds like they got caught pants down. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By luscioman: Russia will block the retreat then surround them. It will end badly of they stay for long. If this is true, it sounds like they got caught pants down. The russians have always gotten caught with their pants down in the north border region ever since they retreated from Northern Ukraine. Which is why they launched their North Group offensive, to create a buffer in order to stop the Ukrainians from going into Russia. The only thing is, it's completely useless unless you actually control the whole border with Ukraine. As obvious by this week's happenings, they just go around. Russian governor says Ukrainian 'saboteurs' cross border, Ukraine credits partisans - May 2023 Arf thread to accompany it. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Belgorod-Russia-has-mostly-fallen/5-2646884/?page=1 Pro-Kyiv group reports second day of fighting in Russia's Belgorod - June 2023 Ukraine-based Russian armed groups claim raids into Russia - March 2024 Arf thread on it. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Russia-is-being-liberated/5-2712601/?page=1 |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:54:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day. Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. I think that’s square miles. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:54:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: This is typical of a corrupt government attacking the peaceful homeland of a peaceful country trying to liberate the people from the yolk of a corrupt government. This is nothing but gaslighting, deflection, and hibachiary. You want to say this is satire….but you never know with today’s GD posters.
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:54:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AA717driver: Hope they don’t rape and kidnap the Russian women! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/197999/IMG_3459_jpeg-3288022.JPG In mother Russia, woman rape you. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:55:10 AM EST
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:55:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: Commando223]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. If Argentina invaded Chile and took 25% of its territory would you care? |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:56:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here...  Money from the U S A helps a little. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:57:34 AM EST
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Until recently, it would have been hard to find more enthusiastic Ukraine pom pom boys than David Axe and Forbes.
They seem have lost some of that "team spirit". ..The Liberty of Russia Legion is almost certain to withdraw from Sudzha within days if not hours. Its cross-border raid will quickly become a tiny footnote in the much bigger story of the Russia-Ukraine war. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/06/pro-ukrainian-russian-troops-in-us-made-stryker-vehicles-just-launched-a-pointless-invasion-of-russia-meanwhile-ukrainian-defenses-crumble-for-a-want-of-manpower/ |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:57:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: If Argentina invaded Chile and took 25% of its territory would you care? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. If Argentina invaded Chile and took 25% of its territory would you care? If Argentina was made up of closet communists who genocided Chile for over 600 years then yes. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:58:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: If Argentina invaded Chile and took 25% of its territory would you care? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. If Argentina invaded Chile and took 25% of its territory would you care? Is Argentina one of our strategic adversaries? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:04:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. Alot of people here will believe what they're told to believe. Even if it's from the Chinese communist party, or the Russian government, so long as it gets marketed to them the right way. Im very curious how many were would take up arms against our government, if China was invading. It would not be a small # by any means. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:05:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Commando223: Originally Posted By BigB32: Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won’t do what it takes to hurt Russia’s economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. I'll never understand why people care so much about Ukraine here is it because Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi you to? It's very interesting to watch from far away but do you Ukebros all have family in Ukraine or something? It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. It’s a mixture. Some are actual shill accounts and some are real people. You can’t say the poster from above that gave an exact troop and vehicle account and exactly how many were destroyed wasn’t a shill since NO ONE has reported that from either side nor knows much about what’s going on. You can see “non-authentic” posts like that pretty often if you keep your eyes open. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:09:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigB32: Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won’t do what it takes to hurt Russia’s economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigB32: Originally Posted By eurotrash: I don’t know why these threads create so much resentment. You all should be happy Ukraine scored a win today. Unless you support Russia’s unprovoked invasion  Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won’t do what it takes to hurt Russia’s economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. While I’m not happy with the amount of money the US is spending, I can still put that aside and cheer for the good guys when they score a win. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:09:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By staringback05: No one is winning this without canned sunshine or fallout continental war.....meanwhile China..the real shitbag is co-oping more and more area in the pacific for bases |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:11:08 AM EST
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It’s hard to get excited about anything over there but this is better than hearing the Russians gained another 3 feet of wheat field today
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:11:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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“The US intends to ask Ukraine for an explanation of the events in the Kursk region, the White House said.
Meanwhile, Koreniv District, like the neighboring Sushan District, is predicted to soon be completely under the control of the armed forces (of Ukraine).” — Jürgen Nauditt Report. No idea validity…..but i assumed the US hadn’t “given permission”. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:12:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Commando223: Originally Posted By BigB32: Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won’t do what it takes to hurt Russia’s economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. I'll never understand why people care so much about Ukraine here is it because Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi you to? It's very interesting to watch from far away but do you Ukebros all have family in Ukraine or something? It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. Pro-Eastern sentiment has always been strong among working class Americans who are down on their luck and see their politicians as a common enemy. This is exactly how Russian disinformation targets them. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:13:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: I see these posts constantly. I don’t see follows up posts with the posters suggestions for ending the war other than “surrender to Russia”. Correct me if I’m assuming here, but is your idea of “stopping the war” surrender to Russia? Is that the only idea out there to “stop the war”? I don't care if Ukraine surrenders, to Russia, Russia surrenders to Finland, or they both surrender to the Borg, I just want my money to stop going there. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:16:04 AM EST
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It's not the first temporary cross-border raid, but may be the largest.
They serve to divert assets and also make Russians feel like their government is failing. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:16:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirkericPitt: I don't care if Ukraine surrenders, to Russia, Russia surrenders to Finland, or they both surrender to the Borg, I just want my money to stop going there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirkericPitt: Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: I see these posts constantly. I don’t see follows up posts with the posters suggestions for ending the war other than “surrender to Russia”. Correct me if I’m assuming here, but is your idea of “stopping the war” surrender to Russia? Is that the only idea out there to “stop the war”? I don't care if Ukraine surrenders, to Russia, Russia surrenders to Finland, or they both surrender to the Borg, I just want my money to stop going there. I get ya, but that’s not a real solution to “stopping the war” and proves my point of what I continually hear. You're obviously free to have that opinion , or not have an opinion……but that’s not really answering my question on “how would you stop the war?”. What’s my solution to stopping the war you ask? I agree with an earlier statement by President Trump of making everyone go back to 2014 borders immediately or he gives Ukraine “everything” so they can end the war. Peace through strength. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:18:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: I'll never understand why people care so much about Ukraine here is it because Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi told you to? It's very interesting to watch from far away but do you Ukebros all have family in Ukraine or something? we do. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:20:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: It's very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:20:37 AM EST
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Made onto the Drudge Report for all that's worth.
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:20:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: Commando223]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dorobuta: we do. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dorobuta: Originally Posted By Commando223: I'll never understand why people care so much about Ukraine here is it because Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi told you to? It's very interesting to watch from far away but do you Ukebros all have family in Ukraine or something? we do. Understood that makes perfect sense to me I would be pissed and hate Russia too. Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Don't blame conservatives, we voted for Trump and no wars. Yup |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:22:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sjm1582002: Until recently, it would have been hard to find more enthusiastic Ukraine pom pom boys than David Axe and Forbes. They seem have lost some of that "team spirit". ..The Liberty of Russia Legion is almost certain to withdraw from Sudzha within days if not hours. Its cross-border raid will quickly become a tiny footnote in the much bigger story of the Russia-Ukraine war. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/06/pro-ukrainian-russian-troops-in-us-made-stryker-vehicles-just-launched-a-pointless-invasion-of-russia-meanwhile-ukrainian-defenses-crumble-for-a-want-of-manpower/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sjm1582002: Until recently, it would have been hard to find more enthusiastic Ukraine pom pom boys than David Axe and Forbes. They seem have lost some of that "team spirit". ..The Liberty of Russia Legion is almost certain to withdraw from Sudzha within days if not hours. Its cross-border raid will quickly become a tiny footnote in the much bigger story of the Russia-Ukraine war. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/06/pro-ukrainian-russian-troops-in-us-made-stryker-vehicles-just-launched-a-pointless-invasion-of-russia-meanwhile-ukrainian-defenses-crumble-for-a-want-of-manpower/ Well, didn't see him calling it what is was. LOL That is, they’re trying to score propaganda points by “invading” Russia. It makes sense that they're looking to strike up a social media feel good campaign for the coming weeks, according to the deepstate map, looks like the russians are about to take Niu York, possibly upto Nelipivka. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:23:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Reports by Russians say a Russian reserve unit that entered into the area to counterattack the Ukrainian s is now surrounded. Maybe what you say happens….but the Russians haven’t said that and are saying the opposite. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:25:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. It's a bit more nuanced than that and I think you know it. A lot of people are not interested in securing borders other than our own. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:25:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: Alot of people here will believe what they're told to believe. Even if it's from the Chinese communist party, or the Russian government, so long as it gets marketed to them the right way. Im very curious how many were would take up arms against our government, if China was invading. It would not be a small # by any means. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: It’s very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. Alot of people here will believe what they're told to believe. Even if it's from the Chinese communist party, or the Russian government, so long as it gets marketed to them the right way. Im very curious how many were would take up arms against our government, if China was invading. It would not be a small # by any means. Yep. I remember some guy on here 10 years ago posting “Please Mr. Putin send us tanks so we can fight the globalists.” Must have been an Alexi Joneskov fanboy. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:26:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: While I'm not happy with the amount of money the US is spending, I can still put that aside and cheer for the good guys when they score a win. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By BigB32: Originally Posted By eurotrash: I don't know why these threads create so much resentment. You all should be happy Ukraine scored a win today. Unless you support Russia's unprovoked invasion Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won't do what it takes to hurt Russia's economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. While I'm not happy with the amount of money the US is spending, I can still put that aside and cheer for the good guys when they score a win. There are no "good" guys in this war, both Putin and Zelensky are POS! Fuck them both, we shouldn't be involved/wasting billions of tax payer monies on something that's none of our business! |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:28:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: I get ya, but that’s not a real solution to “stopping the war” and proves my point of what I continually hear. You're obviously free to have that opinion , or not have an opinion……but that’s not really answering my question on “how would you stop the war?”. What’s my solution to stopping the war you ask? I agree with an earlier statement by President Trump of making everyone go back to 2014 borders immediately or he gives Ukraine “everything” so they can end the war. Peace through strength. The end of the war isn't what I care about, so "ending the war" I have no opinion, just end the aid. Nothing else matters to me. I personally want to see all that money going to bolster things in the pacific because thats where I'll be going to fight, so anything that keeps me from getting killed I'm for. There is very little chance of me being sent to Europe and being killed by russians, no matter how the Ukraine war goes, but being sent to guam and being killed by Chinese is very possible. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:29:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thbreak: Don't blame conservatives, we voted for Trump and no wars. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thbreak: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: It's very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. You voted for a self serving populist who has a 5th grade level understanding of Eastern European history and politics. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:30:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: You voted for a self serving populist who has a 5th grade level understanding of Eastern European history and politics. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: It's very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. You voted for a self serving populist who has a 5th grade level understanding of Eastern European history and politics.
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:33:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By devildog93: It's a bit more nuanced than that and I think you know it. A lot of people are not interested in securing borders other than our own. this is the USA. we have the resources to do both -- Doing A does not preclude Doing B |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:38:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: It's very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. You voted for a self serving populist who has a 5th grade level understanding of Eastern European history and politics. Please post your favorite video of Trump discussing Russian or Ukrainian politics and history in some level of detail. Don’t bother if you only have quotes from him like “I will end the war in 24 hours and it will be a great deal for both sides.” That is about the extent of his knowledge, just like he never speaks in detail about the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or any Founder’s writings. He has no knowledge of it and can care less. It’s all WWF-type bullshit talk. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:43:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: Commando223]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Please post your favorite video of Trump discussing Russian or Ukrainian politics and history in some level of detail. Don’t bother if you only have quotes from him like “I will end the war in 24 hours and it will be a great deal for both sides.” That is about the extent of his knowledge, just like he never speaks in detail about the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or any Founder’s writings. He has no knowledge of it and can care less. It’s all WWF-type bullshit talk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Commando223: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: It's very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. You voted for a self serving populist who has a 5th grade level understanding of Eastern European history and politics. Please post your favorite video of Trump discussing Russian or Ukrainian politics and history in some level of detail. Don’t bother if you only have quotes from him like “I will end the war in 24 hours and it will be a great deal for both sides.” That is about the extent of his knowledge, just like he never speaks in detail about the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or any Founder’s writings. He has no knowledge of it and can care less. It’s all WWF-type bullshit talk. LET TRUMPAMANIA MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! BROTHER Just used post 24000 on this...  |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 11:56:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: Citadel-SC]
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Ukraine is entirely PR and optic driven in its military strategy, to keep the narrative alive and the money and supplies flowing. This has been a detriment in reality and resulted in bizzare campaigns with heavy casualties and little to show. While they move north, the Donbass is being lost one village at a time. I suspect this is to leverage their position regarding possible negotiations, but unfortunately for them it’s more likely to just exacerbate their situation in the longer term.
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:05:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sketti: There are no "good" guys in this war, both Putin and Zelensky are POS! Fuck them both, we shouldn't be involved/wasting billions of tax payer monies on something that's none of our business! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sketti: Originally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By BigB32: Originally Posted By eurotrash: I don't know why these threads create so much resentment. You all should be happy Ukraine scored a win today. Unless you support Russia's unprovoked invasion Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won't do what it takes to hurt Russia's economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. While I'm not happy with the amount of money the US is spending, I can still put that aside and cheer for the good guys when they score a win. There are no "good" guys in this war, both Putin and Zelensky are POS! Fuck them both, we shouldn't be involved/wasting billions of tax payer monies on something that's none of our business! Really? The people who were invaded by their bully neighbor and want to not be forced to be Russians aren't good because you emotionally think their leader is a POS? |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:06:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: You voted for a self serving populist who has a 5th grade level understanding of Eastern European history and politics. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: It's very interesting to see so-called conservative American gun owners cheering for Russia when Ukraine experienced a real Red Dawn. You voted for a self serving populist who has a 5th grade level understanding of Eastern European history and politics. yes, and he's still by far the most qualified person and the best option on the ballot this time around too! 
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:06:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: this is the USA. we have the resources to do both -- Doing A does not preclude Doing B Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: Originally Posted By devildog93: It's a bit more nuanced than that and I think you know it. A lot of people are not interested in securing borders other than our own. this is the USA. we have the resources to do both -- Doing A does not preclude Doing B Yes it has, and no they can’t. We are also trillions in debt. Decades of disastrous foreign policy as the government’s primary focus have coincided with the decline of this nation. The two are absolutely related. Supporting this decades long failure is flat out anti-American though so many love to couch such nonsense in patriotism….useful idiocy. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:06:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citadel-SC: Ukraine is entirely PR and optic driven in its military strategy, to keep the narrative alive and the money and supplies flowing. This has been a detriment in reality and resulted in bizzare campaigns with heavy casualties and little to show. While they move north, the Donbass is being lost one village at a time. I suspect this is to leverage their position regarding possible negotiations, but unfortunately for them it’s more likely to just exacerbate their situation in the longer term. We should send our generals over. They have plenty of experince losing wars. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:06:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Really? The people who were invaded by their bully neighbor and want to not be forced to be Russians aren't good because you emotionally think their leader is a POS? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Sketti: Originally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By BigB32: Originally Posted By eurotrash: I don't know why these threads create so much resentment. You all should be happy Ukraine scored a win today. Unless you support Russia's unprovoked invasion Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won't do what it takes to hurt Russia's economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. While I'm not happy with the amount of money the US is spending, I can still put that aside and cheer for the good guys when they score a win. There are no "good" guys in this war, both Putin and Zelensky are POS! Fuck them both, we shouldn't be involved/wasting billions of tax payer monies on something that's none of our business! Really? The people who were invaded by their bully neighbor and want to not be forced to be Russians aren't good because you emotionally think their leader is a POS? Idiocy like that is why I took a break from Ukraine threads lmao. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:11:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: they dont. Its click bait. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here... they dont. Its click bait. Is of American disinformation! Russian Rodina stronk! Great Red army invincible! The East is Red! Kiev fall in 48 hours! Jesus, just go away- the adults are doing adult things. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:13:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Idiocy like that is why I took a break from Ukraine threads lmao. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Sketti: Originally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By BigB32: Originally Posted By eurotrash: I don't know why these threads create so much resentment. You all should be happy Ukraine scored a win today. Unless you support Russia's unprovoked invasion Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won't do what it takes to hurt Russia's economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. While I'm not happy with the amount of money the US is spending, I can still put that aside and cheer for the good guys when they score a win. There are no "good" guys in this war, both Putin and Zelensky are POS! Fuck them both, we shouldn't be involved/wasting billions of tax payer monies on something that's none of our business! Really? The people who were invaded by their bully neighbor and want to not be forced to be Russians aren't good because you emotionally think their leader is a POS? Idiocy like that is why I took a break from Ukraine threads lmao. WHY DO YOU LOVE RUSSIA |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:14:17 PM EST
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RE: Money.
It's worth it to put into perspective. The budget is about 9 trillion. Ukraine spending (mostly in the form of equipment) is about 100 billion total since 2022. This is the equivalent of being extremely concerned over about $100 worth of spending over a ~2 year period when your household budget is 9,000 each year. It's certainly not nothing, but it's probably not the first place you should look to reduce the overall budget. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:14:23 PM EST
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All it took was a few F-16's and Ukraine is now steamrolling into Russia. It's so over for the vatniks, they'll be dropping out any day now
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:14:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beitodesstrafe: WHY DO YOU LOVE RUSSIA Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beitodesstrafe: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Sketti: Originally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By BigB32: Originally Posted By eurotrash: I don't know why these threads create so much resentment. You all should be happy Ukraine scored a win today. Unless you support Russia's unprovoked invasion Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won't do what it takes to hurt Russia's economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. While I'm not happy with the amount of money the US is spending, I can still put that aside and cheer for the good guys when they score a win. There are no "good" guys in this war, both Putin and Zelensky are POS! Fuck them both, we shouldn't be involved/wasting billions of tax payer monies on something that's none of our business! Really? The people who were invaded by their bully neighbor and want to not be forced to be Russians aren't good because you emotionally think their leader is a POS? Idiocy like that is why I took a break from Ukraine threads lmao. WHY DO YOU LOVE RUSSIA Well, I love a few Russians lol |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 12:15:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoconutLaCroix: All it took was a few F-16's and Ukraine is now steamrolling into Russia. It's so over for the vatniks, they'll be dropping out any day now 3 days to Kyiv! |
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