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Posted: 5/17/2018 9:22:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2018 10:24:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rdnkar]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
I vote for posting your trip in this thread. It would be appropriate, and your trip would never get archived. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Originally Posted By rdnkar:
Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By rdnkar:
Originally Posted By 72coupe:
I'll see if I can find you a coordinate for it. That would be a hoot to find wouldn't it! Seems like yesterday. I will start a thread when I get on the plane in about 12 hours from now The purpose of the trip to to explore battlefields, old bases, and gain a better understanding of where my parents where. I will be going with a group of Vietnam veterans. Unfortunately my parents have passed away (far too young, early 60s) so they will not be going with me (not sure they would have anyway) Mom Army nurse 12th evac 1970 cu chi 24th evac 1971 long binh Dad Army medical Corp 12th evac 1970 cu chi 24th evac 1970 long binh They were Maried at Fort Sam Houston where they met during medical training before they shipped out to Vietnam and the army kept them together throughout their time in country. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/17732555-B262-48C9-B6F2-992D7FAB5A4E-545405.JPG My mom With a young Cambodian patient wounded in a battle She was very fond of this young girl. The Vietnamese set up a monument for John McCain at the pond  Attached Filehe parachuted into. Note the bottom right of the monument. |
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Posted: 5/17/2018 10:33:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rdnkar]
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I went to their war museum.
It was intriguing. I will leave personal opinions out of this. I am on a public WiFi. I found some unique things  Attached Filean m151a2 in immaculate condition  Attached File Attached File Attached Filethis is neat An m16 made by GM without a third hole. Not sure what to make of this |
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Posted: 5/17/2018 10:42:47 AM EDT
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 Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileThey had an interesting assortment of weapons I will upload more tomorrow. I went to the Hanoi Hilton today as well and am beat after 26 hours of flying and layovers. Enjoy |
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Posted: 5/17/2018 10:55:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPL:
Oh man! Please start your own thread! It will be amazing to watch your journey! My dad was in Na Trang and Camrahn Bay (spelling on both?). If you happen to be at either I'd love to show him some current day pics. I nearly lost him last week to pneumonia.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPL:
Originally Posted By rdnkar:
So I’m sitting in the airport waiting for my flight to Hanoi I will be visiting several battlefields and cities across Vietnam from Hanoi to hue to Saigon With a group of vets My question,I guess to anyone that cares, is should I start my own thread on this. Or just attach pictures to this due to its relevance specifically to the war My goal is to upload pictures as I go through these areas. I will be more than happy to look for special places and upload pictures if I come across an area any of you guys may want to see a current photo of. For instance I have a friend that was a combat engineer and worked on ql1 from da nang to hue and wants pictures of the area. Another friend was at tan sun nhut and would like pictures of that. I will post an itinerary as I go. Show him these  Attached File Attached File Attached Fileall cam rahn 1970 |
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Posted: 5/17/2018 11:00:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2018 11:08:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rdnkar]
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More cam rahn
 Attached File Attached FileHopefully the arfgods will forgive me for posting this smut but here is a round eye (my mom) swimming in the bay on in country r&r. The little boat says cam rahn bay on it  Attached FileBut to answer your question, I’ll try to swing over to the bay but it may have to be the next time I get over here. I just hadn’t planned on that. I’ll post an itinerary tomorrow if time and inter webs allow |
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Posted: 5/17/2018 2:32:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rdnkar:
More cam rahnhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/image-546640.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/image-546642.JPG Hopefully the arfgods will forgive me for posting this smut but here is a round eye (my mom) swimming in the bay on in country r&r. The little boat says cam rahn bay on ithttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/image-546647.JPG But to answer your question, I’ll try to swing over to the bay but it may have to be the next time I get over here. I just hadn’t planned on that. I’ll post an itinerary tomorrow if time and inter webs allow |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 9:14:53 AM EDT
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Pretty in depth collection of digitized unit reports via Texas Tech
http://www.recordsofwar.com/vietnam/army/ |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 12:14:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rlltd42:
Pretty in depth collection of digitized unit reports via Texas Tech http://www.recordsofwar.com/vietnam/army/ |
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Posted: 5/22/2018 8:01:21 AM EDT
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Sorry guys it’s looking like I’m going to have to do a picture dump when I get back to the states. I underestimated the abilities of the WiFi in these Vietnamese hotels.
So far I’ve gone to Hanoi Ha long Hoi An Da nang 37th signal battalion and I Corp hq area My khe beach (China beach) Marble mountain air field and VC hospital site at marble mountain My Lai Highway 1 all the way from da nang to the DMZ Red beach 2 Hai van pass Lang co My chan bridge ( actually looking at it as I type this) Quang tri airbase Dong ha bridge Dai do Jones creek My loc Mai xa chanh Song Ben hai Vinh moc / tunnels FSB gio linh I’ll put a list of locations I’m going to tomorrow after dinner, I’m wore out |
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Posted: 5/22/2018 11:13:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rdnkar]
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Ok I’ll be hitting tomorrow
Con thien Cam lo bridge Camp Carroll Khe Gia bridge Vandergrift combat base (LZ stud) Ca lu Hairpin The rock pile Razorback Khe Sahn Lang vei SFC Da Krong bridge Da krong valley Ho Chi Minh Trail A Shau valley Hill 937 (hamburger hill) Another long day on the road 6 days and a wake up left If there is anything specific that you want me to take pictures of please let me know. I can’t make any promises due to my crazy schedule but I will try |
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Posted: 5/22/2018 11:28:07 AM EDT
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I was on the DMZ at the unification bridge and found a few weapons
No description on these but thought they looked neat 2 m16s and 2 m1 carbines I couldn’t tell who made the carbines or even find any markings other than a serial number on the receiver  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/22/2018 11:36:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rdnkar:
I was on the DMZ at the unification bridge and found a few weapons No description on these but thought they looked neat 2 m16s and 2 m1 carbines I couldn’t tell who made the carbines or even find any markings other than a serial number on the receiver |
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Posted: 5/22/2018 9:00:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rdnkar:
Ok I'll be hitting tomorrow Con thien Cam lo bridge Camp Carroll Khe Gia bridge Vandergrift combat base (LZ stud) Ca lu Hairpin The rock pile Razorback Khe Sahn Lang vei SFC Da Krong bridge Da krong valley Ho Chi Minh Trail A Shau valley Hill 937 (hamburger hill) Another long day on the road 6 days and a wake up left If there is anything specific that you want me to take pictures of please let me know. I can't make any promises due to my crazy schedule but I will try |
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Posted: 5/22/2018 9:09:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 30Caliber]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rdnkar:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/image-545321.JPG Any of you guys buy shit at the PX while you were over there? I have all this stuff We used to have a tape that had "what the Captain really meant was" on it (that you can find on youtube). There was also about 20min of radio traffic covering a plane getting knocked down and the SAR effort (which ended with "nah, his head is missing"). The final chunk of the tape was some random guy's girlfriend back stateside talking about seeing The Graduate and then sounds of her masturbating with a coke bottle. It was a riveting hour of listening for a 14 year old me. That tape disappeared in the years later. |
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Posted: 5/22/2018 9:18:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JQ66]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 30Caliber:
I swear to God, my dad still has that same TEAC reel to reel and the reverberator on the bottom right! We used to have a tape that had "what the Captain really meant was" on it (that you can find on youtube). There was also about 20min of radio traffic covering a plane getting knocked down and the SAR effort (which ended with "nah, his head is missing"). The final chunk of the tape was some random guy's girlfriend back stateside talking about seeing The Graduate and then sounds of her masturbating with a coke bottle. It was a riveting hour of listening for a 14 year old me. That tape disappeared. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 30Caliber:
Originally Posted By rdnkar:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/image-545321.JPG Any of you guys buy shit at the PX while you were over there? I have all this stuff We used to have a tape that had "what the Captain really meant was" on it (that you can find on youtube). There was also about 20min of radio traffic covering a plane getting knocked down and the SAR effort (which ended with "nah, his head is missing"). The final chunk of the tape was some random guy's girlfriend back stateside talking about seeing The Graduate and then sounds of her masturbating with a coke bottle. It was a riveting hour of listening for a 14 year old me. That tape disappeared. He was in the Phillipines in 1965 and early 1966 and on a command ship (it was either McKinley or El Dorado, the first ones by that name). Then in 1966-67 he was on an LST (-1146 summitt county). |
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Posted: 5/23/2018 1:15:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: doubleclaw]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadMardigan:
More: The Vietnam series managed to quickly move to the years of protest. It did not bother to cover what it was really like at Con Thien. Con Thien means Hill of the Angles! It was our northernmost position in Vietnam. A company of Marines was rotated into and out of Con Thien each month. During that month, Con Thien was bombarded with many thousands of rounds of NVA artillery. Marines called their tour at Con Thien "Time in the Barrel" from the constant shelling. In May 1967, I went to Con Thien to visit my former drill instructor who was now the company Gunny for D/1/4. He had previously stopped by Camp Carroll to see me, but I was out in the bush. When I arrived at Con Thien, I ran to the CO's bunker expecting to find him. I was informed by their CO that Gunny Elliott had been killed on May 8th during an all out NVA assault on their position. When I returned home from Vietnam, I received a letter informing me that one of my squad members, Ron Pene and 3 other I/3/9 Marines had died at Con Thien. Fighting face to face is easy! Ducking in a trench listening to incoming artillery scream into your position, is the most frightening experience I had in Vietnam.The interview of the man who claimed he was a coward for not refusing to go to Vietnam, was pathetic! If you ran to Canada, you are a coward! I don't care what Jimmy Carter said! You are still a coward!Gunny Elliott was from Philly. He was a Dark Green Marine! Gunny Elliott taught us there are no black or white Marines! We are green Marines, dark green and light green. Above all, our blood is the same. God gave us different shades of skin, but He made us in His image. RIP Gunny! |
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Posted: 5/23/2018 8:49:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doubleclaw: I have a copy of an old satellite reconnaissance photo of the area around Con Thien, among my dad's paperwork from his service in Vietnam. He was with the Marines, First tank BN over there in 1967-68, mainly around Da Nang, but his platoon of flame tanks got hot swapped around a pretty big area. I'll ask him if he remembers anything about being up in that area next time I see him. |
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Posted: 5/23/2018 10:55:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2018 9:24:27 AM EDT
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Been podcasting some with the Zero Foxtrot guys lately about MACV-SOG, and thought you guys might find it interesting.
 Vietnam Special Ops | MACV-SOG ?? And the most recent episode with John "Tilt" Meyer about his time running recon. Crazy war stories in this one.  MACV-SOG Interview | John Stryker Meyer |
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Posted: 5/24/2018 9:44:28 AM EDT
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Nobody made go the 1st time and I'm not going back there again and nobody can make me.
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Posted: 5/25/2018 2:37:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FeuerStolz: Nobody made go the 1st time and I'm not going back there again and nobody can make me. |
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Posted: 5/25/2018 10:40:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somedude:
field hospital pic I found, https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91913/b776d3d6ded2dc909927def861a54acf-553660.JPG |
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Posted: 5/25/2018 10:42:41 PM EDT
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I seldom read threads from beginning to end, but this one was worth 2 days' reading.
Guys, no words can describe what you went through. No words can describe the gratitude that all Americans should have for what you sacrficed. I'll just say that I'm very thankful that good men like you stood up and took care of business. I'll raise a glass to y'all this Memorial day. Then I'll raise several glasses for the guys that didn't make it home. God bless... |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 12:12:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: NVA |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 12:32:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rdnkar:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/image-545321.JPG Any of you guys buy shit at the PX while you were over there? I have all this stuff |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 12:55:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M10KEN:
Same here Brother , I do not feel the need to go back to that Shit Hole .. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M10KEN:
Originally Posted By FeuerStolz: Nobody made go the 1st time and I'm not going back there again and nobody can make me. |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 3:33:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rdnkar]
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@M10KEN
Took this picture for you as I read your post. Luckily my bus has WiFi I’m sure you recognize what it is  Attached File Attached FileIt’s the beginning of the rainy season and yes it does smell like swamp ass after a shower |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 4:12:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rdnkar]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strela:
I went of my own accord 50 years ago this month. In that same spirit I'll not go back. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strela:
Originally Posted By M10KEN:
Originally Posted By FeuerStolz: Nobody made go the 1st time and I'm not going back there again and nobody can make me. I am on this trip with 13 war vets that range from radio POG to infantry grunt one man, that I have become close with, was at hamburger hill with the 101st as an Infantry NCO. We had a compass and once he got his bearings on the hill, he was showing us around like he was there yesterday Same with 2 of the guys that were in Hue during TET and also at khe sahn During the siege. There is a helicopter pilot on our trip that flew shithooks and we met with a Viet Cong fighter that shot down helicopters. They joked about the irony as we had lunch together. As I type this I’m sitting next to a Marine that was wounded by a bouncing Betty while on patrol west of Hue There has been a common theme None of these men have regrets about coming back. In fact I have been told in no uncertain terms that it has been the most healing thing they have done next to going to reunions if not more I understand if you don’t want to, but I believe there are a lot of folks that would benefit from it |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 10:51:37 AM EDT
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My dad was in Vietnam in 71-72 at Nah Trang
I’ve spent all morning going through this whole thread. This is what makes ARFCOM great. Thank you to all who shared and to all who served. |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 11:21:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rdnkar:
@M10KEN Took this picture for you as I read your post. Luckily my bus has WiFi I’m sure you recognize what it ishttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/88D31CE9-900A-4990-ABE1-449FB545FD63-555505.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/DAF8CAC5-07E5-4B9B-8238-074565C20AB2-555506.JPG It’s the beginning of the rainy season and yes it does smell like swamp ass after a shower |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 11:52:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Vinny302]
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Thanks for the pics of Cam Ranh, it brought back memories
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Posted: 5/26/2018 1:08:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By axl:
Must be near Tay Ninh. Hang a right at the base of the mountain and go about fifteen miles and you are in Cambodia. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By axl:
Originally Posted By rdnkar:
@M10KEN Took this picture for you as I read your post. Luckily my bus has WiFi I’m sure you recognize what it ishttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/88D31CE9-900A-4990-ABE1-449FB545FD63-555505.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167793/DAF8CAC5-07E5-4B9B-8238-074565C20AB2-555506.JPG It’s the beginning of the rainy season and yes it does smell like swamp ass after a shower 
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Posted: 5/26/2018 1:19:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M10KEN:
Same here Brother , I do not feel the need to go back to that Shit Hole .. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M10KEN:
Originally Posted By FeuerStolz: Nobody made go the 1st time and I'm not going back there again and nobody can make me. kudos to O P for the pics but hill 937, 5/11/69 was enough. |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 1:21:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M10KEN:
Same here Brother , I do not feel the need to go back to that Shit Hole .. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M10KEN:
Originally Posted By FeuerStolz: Nobody made go the 1st time and I'm not going back there again and nobody can make me. kudos to O P for the pics but hill 937, 5/11/69 was enough. |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 1:33:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somedude:
field hospital pic I found, https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91913/b776d3d6ded2dc909927def861a54acf-553660.JPG |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 2:45:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M10KEN:
this looks like some of the jungle and wet lands North of the Michelin Rubber Plantation .. the water turned black and smelled like a sewer after you had walked in it for a while and was full of mosquito larvae .. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M10KEN:
Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: NVA |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 11:32:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M10KEN]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rdnkar:
I don’t blame you, you did your time. My mother agreed with you. My father expressed interest. I am on this trip with 13 war vets that range from radio POG to infantry grunt one man, that I have become close with, was at hamburger hill with the 101st as an Infantry NCO. We had a compass and once he got his bearings on the hill, he was showing us around like he was there yesterday Same with 2 of the guys that were in Hue during TET and also at khe sahn During the siege. There is a helicopter pilot on our trip that flew shithooks and we met with a Viet Cong fighter that shot down helicopters. They joked about the irony as we had lunch together. As I type this I’m sitting next to a Marine that was wounded by a bouncing Betty while on patrol west of Hue There has been a common theme None of these men have regrets about coming back. In fact I have been told in no uncertain terms that it has been the most healing thing they have done next to going to reunions if not more I understand if you don’t want to, but I believe there are a lot of folks that would benefit from it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rdnkar:
Originally Posted By Strela:
Originally Posted By M10KEN:
Originally Posted By FeuerStolz: Nobody made go the 1st time and I'm not going back there again and nobody can make me. I am on this trip with 13 war vets that range from radio POG to infantry grunt one man, that I have become close with, was at hamburger hill with the 101st as an Infantry NCO. We had a compass and once he got his bearings on the hill, he was showing us around like he was there yesterday Same with 2 of the guys that were in Hue during TET and also at khe sahn During the siege. There is a helicopter pilot on our trip that flew shithooks and we met with a Viet Cong fighter that shot down helicopters. They joked about the irony as we had lunch together. As I type this I’m sitting next to a Marine that was wounded by a bouncing Betty while on patrol west of Hue There has been a common theme None of these men have regrets about coming back. In fact I have been told in no uncertain terms that it has been the most healing thing they have done next to going to reunions if not more I understand if you don’t want to, but I believe there are a lot of folks that would benefit from it |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 12:04:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M10KEN]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Just walking through that is so far out of the realm of my life experience that I'm failing to relate. I want to know what it's like, but it's not happening. |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 12:15:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rdnkar:
I don’t blame you, you did your time. My mother agreed with you. My father expressed interest. I am on this trip with 13 war vets that range from radio POG to infantry grunt one man, that I have become close with, was at hamburger hill with the 101st as an Infantry NCO. We had a compass and once he got his bearings on the hill, he was showing us around like he was there yesterday Same with 2 of the guys that were in Hue during TET and also at khe sahn During the siege. There is a helicopter pilot on our trip that flew shithooks and we met with a Viet Cong fighter that shot down helicopters. They joked about the irony as we had lunch together. As I type this I’m sitting next to a Marine that was wounded by a bouncing Betty while on patrol west of Hue There has been a common theme None of these men have regrets about coming back. In fact I have been told in no uncertain terms that it has been the most healing thing they have done next to going to reunions if not more I understand if you don’t want to, but I believe there are a lot of folks that would benefit from it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rdnkar:
Originally Posted By Strela:
Originally Posted By M10KEN:
Originally Posted By FeuerStolz: Nobody made go the 1st time and I'm not going back there again and nobody can make me. I am on this trip with 13 war vets that range from radio POG to infantry grunt one man, that I have become close with, was at hamburger hill with the 101st as an Infantry NCO. We had a compass and once he got his bearings on the hill, he was showing us around like he was there yesterday Same with 2 of the guys that were in Hue during TET and also at khe sahn During the siege. There is a helicopter pilot on our trip that flew shithooks and we met with a Viet Cong fighter that shot down helicopters. They joked about the irony as we had lunch together. As I type this I’m sitting next to a Marine that was wounded by a bouncing Betty while on patrol west of Hue There has been a common theme None of these men have regrets about coming back. In fact I have been told in no uncertain terms that it has been the most healing thing they have done next to going to reunions if not more I understand if you don’t want to, but I believe there are a lot of folks that would benefit from it |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 5:30:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: misplayedhand]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cda97: I've always been fascinated by the Vietnam war since my Dad is a Vietnam vet. Maybe some day I will make a trip there. It's raining in Hanoi atm |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 5:37:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Floridian]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Been podcasting some with the Zero Foxtrot guys lately about MACV-SOG, and thought you guys might find it interesting.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNLWSu9rok
And the most recent episode with John "Tilt" Meyer about his time running recon. Crazy war stories in this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk5YF3MAmvQ |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 5:41:07 AM EDT
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Can't believe I hadn't seen the thread before. I would have been in 8th grade or so at the height of this, what's wild is I vividly remember a lot of this, from CBS news, Life magazine and the funerals of vets in my home town who came home in boxes.
Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/28/2018 12:46:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: NVA |
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Posted: 5/28/2018 6:29:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2018 7:28:19 AM EDT
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Thanks for this thread, and thanks to all of the heroes who served in Vietnam.
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Posted: 5/28/2018 8:21:57 AM EDT
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Thanks to O P and all the others that posted.
I said earlier in the thread I have no desire to go back, still dont, but these pics brought back a lot of memories - good and bad. Thanks again. R I P my fallen brothers. |
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Posted: 5/28/2018 8:55:21 AM EDT
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I grieve today. God bless our warriors.
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Posted: 5/28/2018 12:04:07 PM EDT
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For those who have never seen this.
 After The War - Timothy P Irvin Same song from the Wall dedication. KSKY talker Mark Davis was there that day and plays this every Memorial Day. For all the Hectors.......................................  Timothy P Irvin Performing "After The War" Live on CNN |
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