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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:52:27 AM EST
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If the police aren't allowed to enforce the existing laws, who is going to enforce the mask ban? |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 6:11:51 AM EST
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If they would just get rid of Wheeler the rest would fall into place. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the only reason they wear masks is so that they can get away with crime. eta: eventually someone on the right is going to dress up like those idiots, infiltrate their organization and CoC violation a ton of them. Further, Portland's mayor is corrupt, & PPD corrupted itself when it chose to salute his corrupt order to stand still. Same goes for Berkeley & SFPD. That was a choice. It wasn't the only option. They chose to obey it. They didn't have to. If PPD was told to stand down in the face of KKK attacks on blacks or Jews in the city, dollars to Winchel's says they would've ignored it & carried out their duty to the oath they swore (Which has nothing to do with following orders from the chief or the mayor. Go ahead & prove me wrong). Standing still in the face of criminal activity indicates a lack of conviction to duty. Rather, it demonstrates conviction to job/career preservation, & nothing more. Orders can be wrong, & being told to stand by & let the ANTIFA crapsters go unchecked doesn't reside in some nebulous, cloudy gray area on the legal continuum. The law is clear (& constitutional, even). It was wrong on its face, & everyone knows it. Never mind that the king has no clothes. Just shut your suck, do as you're told, & hang onto that job. Got it? |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 6:37:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No disrespect intended, but these propositions are bullshit. Masks are not the issue. They are nothing but a tactic to evade identification. But when masked assailants are committing felonies right in front of you, it isn't hard to do the job. Unless, of course, you'd rather not. Further, Portland's mayor is corrupt, & PPD corrupted itself when it chose to salute his corrupt order to stand still. Same goes for Berkeley & SFPD. That was a choice. It wasn't the only option. They chose to obey it. They didn't have to. If PPD was told to stand down in the face of KKK attacks on blacks or Jews in the city, dollars to Winchel's says they would've ignored it & carried out their duty to the oath they swore (Which has nothing to do with following orders from the chief or the mayor. Go ahead & prove me wrong). Standing still in the face of criminal activity indicates a lack of conviction to duty. Rather, it demonstrates conviction to job/career preservation, & nothing more. Orders can be wrong, & being told to stand by & let the ANTIFA crapsters go unchecked doesn't reside in some nebulous, cloudy gray area on the legal continuum. The law is clear (& constitutional, even). It was wrong on its face, & everyone knows it. Never mind that the king has no clothes. Just shut your suck, do as you're told, & hang onto that job. Got it? There are more examples...……….. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 6:53:29 AM EST
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Officer Wilson did his job in St. Louis when confronting a strong arming criminal...…..he was prosecuted for murder. There are more examples...……….. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No disrespect intended, but these propositions are bullshit. Masks are not the issue. They are nothing but a tactic to evade identification. But when masked assailants are committing felonies right in front of you, it isn't hard to do the job. Unless, of course, you'd rather not. Further, Portland's mayor is corrupt, & PPD corrupted itself when it chose to salute his corrupt order to stand still. Same goes for Berkeley & SFPD. That was a choice. It wasn't the only option. They chose to obey it. They didn't have to. If PPD was told to stand down in the face of KKK attacks on blacks or Jews in the city, dollars to Winchel's says they would've ignored it & carried out their duty to the oath they swore (Which has nothing to do with following orders from the chief or the mayor. Go ahead & prove me wrong). Standing still in the face of criminal activity indicates a lack of conviction to duty. Rather, it demonstrates conviction to job/career preservation, & nothing more. Orders can be wrong, & being told to stand by & let the ANTIFA crapsters go unchecked doesn't reside in some nebulous, cloudy gray area on the legal continuum. The law is clear (& constitutional, even). It was wrong on its face, & everyone knows it. Never mind that the king has no clothes. Just shut your suck, do as you're told, & hang onto that job. Got it? There are more examples...……….. Doing what the .Gov is doing in Portland only occurs when: 1) All government actors believe they cannot he held accountable, i.e., they are untouchable. 2) The ideological divide is so great that the political leadership decides that one ideology does not deserve representation. 3) Dehumanization has occurred to a sufficient level that violence against the opposing ideology is viewed as justified, even morally righteous. Inevitably, the government actors can quickly and permanently become labeled an enemy that must be destroyed, once enough people realize that there are no alternatives except full subjugation. This is what the police, the mayor, and so many others have not given forethought to. History provides examples. Social media is an accelerant. It will happen as this continues and when it goes critical, it will be lightning fast. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 6:55:47 AM EST
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Not quite a valid comparison. Obeying orders to stand down and allow people to be attacked with violence over political ideology is a half step removed from something unimaginably bad happening in this country. Doing what the .Gov is doing in Portland only occurs when: 1) All government actors believe they cannot he held accountable, i.e., they are untouchable. 2) The ideological divide is so great that the political leadership decides that one ideology does not deserve representation. 3) Dehumanization has occurred to a sufficient level that violence against the opposing ideology is viewed as justified, even morally righteous. Inevitably, the government actors can quickly and permanently become labeled an enemy that must be destroyed, once enough people realize that there are no alternatives except full subjugation. This is what the police, the mayor, and so many others have not given forethought to. History provides examples. Social media is an accelerant. It will happen as this continues and when it goes critical, it will be lightning fast. The commies in charge told them to stand down...…...if they don't follow that order and hurt a commie masked asshole...…..I believe they would be prosecuted. And prosecuted HARSHLY. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:03:42 AM EST
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Welp, there goes Halloween, and those masquerade sex parties. Oops!, sorry, that slipped out......
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:05:12 AM EST
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i recognize that there's a 1A component to it, but when it is routinely taken advantage of to commit violence, something ought to be done. simple solution: make it an exacerbating charge (i forget the right term). basically, commit a crime while wearing a mask, and face extra punishment. substantially more for masked violence. masks could still be worn for 1A purposes, but there would be a strong disincentive to go antifa-style. it isn't perfect--masks still make ID more difficult--but i'm suspicious of the idea that government has the authority to dictate what i can and can't wear. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:08:03 AM EST
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I understand but you have to understand that I believe the people (communists) I pictured in my post on the previous page would prosecute a Portland cop who used physical force against the masked communists, ESPECIALLY if one of those communists was physically hurt in the process. The commies in charge told them to stand down...…...if they don't follow that order and hurt a commie masked asshole...…..I believe they would be prosecuted. And prosecuted HARSHLY. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:10:29 AM EST
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There's always a myriad of "reasons" why society and the public at large cannot lawfully be protected from para military lawbreaking, politically violent thugs.
It's bullshit and action needs to be taken. Victims have rights too. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:10:32 AM EST
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The mask(s) allow and condone the behavior, you idiot. There are no consequences for actions, if the parties involved end up not being identifed.
The Left doesn't want their pawns doxxed and identifed. That's only allowed for the other guys. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:11:51 AM EST
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Sure, no masks would make it easier for police to go after people AFTER THE CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED. But the police could get around all the constitutional issues if they allowed people to wear masks, and simply arrested people at the time the crimes were being committed.
The police don't want to commit the number of officers required to go into the crowd, fight off a number of protesters, just so they can arrest the one person committing a crime. If they would go into the crowd and grab up masked offenders when they are committing the crime, it wouldn't matter whether anyone was masked or not. But that would require the police and city to show a commitment to stopping Antifa. Therein lies the problem. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:13:39 AM EST
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The solution is simple. Many of the States with anti-mask laws have them because of the KKK. If you don't support the proposed anti-mask law, you support the KKK. Doesn't Antifa hate the racists/fascists? |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:16:49 AM EST
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Formerly a Deputy Chief of the Oakland Police. And her big accomplishment was something to do with using more women. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"police Chief Danielle Outlaw"  Female Obviously the most qualified person for the job.......... Obviously..... Outlaw began her Law Enforcement career with the Oakland Police Department in California. Since she worked in there, she rose her ranks through to Deputy Chief, she worked in various assignments throughout the Oakland Police Department, including Patrol, Community Services, the Office of Chief of Police, the Criminal Investigation Division, Internal Affairs and the Office of Inspector General.[3][6] During her time in Oakland Danielle Outlaw thought the police should change in communication.[4] So Outlaw suggested that women's soft skills could help communicate well with other communities and avoid potentially dangerous situations.[6] 
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:23:59 AM EST
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why would politicians create laws that would hinder their brownshirts? If the optics on that weren't so horrific you can bet that the status quo would be maintained. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:24:18 AM EST
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Pretty sure that none of the founding "protesters" wore masks.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:24:49 AM EST
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I am betting this will only apply to the lawful patriot prayer folks that bring gas masks to keep from being bear sprayed. Smarter for the Conservatives to turn up in black with masks and blend in with antifa. Just kidding.  Better to just keep turning up like they are and getting beaten while being blamed for all the violence. 
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:29:01 AM EST
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Don't worry, anti-mask laws are coming. Facial recognition is part of the digital algorithm.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:34:51 AM EST
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Sure, no masks would make it easier for police to go after people AFTER THE CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED. But the police could get around all the constitutional issues if they allowed people to wear masks, and simply arrested people at the time the crimes were being committed. The police don't want to commit the number of officers required to go into the crowd, fight off a number of protesters, just so they can arrest the one person committing a crime. If they would go into the crowd and grab up masked offenders when they are committing the crime, it wouldn't matter whether anyone was masked or not. But that would require the police and city to show a commitment to stopping Antifa. Therein lies the problem. Pass a damned mask law like the one we have in Florida and if the politically violent thugs believe it to be unconstitional, let them grind their way through the legal system like we're always forced to do. The new political paradigm is that no legal action at all can be taken against violent communist revolutionaries, which plays right into their hands. https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/876.12 876.12 Wearing mask, hood, or other device on public way.—No person or persons over 16 years of age shall, while wearing any mask, hood, or device whereby any portion of the face is so hidden, concealed, or covered as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter upon, or be or appear upon any lane, walk, alley, street, road, highway, or other public way in this state. History.—s. 2, ch. 26542, 1951. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:39:30 AM EST
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There's nothing wrong OR un-Constitutional about laws against wearing masks during protests. It's already been noted that an anti-mask statute was used to good effect when antifa protested in Newnan, GA. I can only imagine the bullshit that a well-funded defense attorney would spew regarding any arrests made of any masked individuals. The ones carrying out the attacks are cowards. They appear for a moment, do their dirt, and then dash back into the crowd of black-masked individuals. By the time you see them, see their crime, and start to react, they've already hidden amongst a hundred other cowards dressed just as they are. Can you imagine a defense attorney staging a line-up of a half dozen black-clad, black masked perpetrators, and then asking officers and witnesses to ID the perps?
"Can you positively ID the offender, Officer Smith? How can you be SURE, if you didn't see his face? How did you manage to pick MY CLIENT out of the hundreds of others on the street that day who just happened to be dressed just like he was?" They're not going to just arrest everyone on the street who was dressed in black that day. Not only do they not have the facilities to handle that many arrests, or the budget to pay for the overtime, but whole platoons of lawyers would have a field day with unlawful arrest suits. There's only two options: conservatives don masks of their own and take the fight to the cowards, or unmask EVERYONE and therefore provide for positive identification of those who would use anonymity to commit felonious attacks against unarmed, peaceful conservatives.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:01:03 AM EST
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If you purchase anything in or from Portland you are contributing to the Marxist rule of law.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:20:28 AM EST
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The American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon said it doubts a policy prohibiting masks could be enforced in a constitutional manner. "A policy that prohibits wearing a mask to a protest will have police focusing on the wrong issue," Sarah Armstrong, a spokeswoman for the group, told the paper. "Behavior is the issue, not the mask,'' she said. "It could be argued that the mask is an important symbolic part of a protester’s message. ... There are many legitimate reasons people wear ‘masks,’ including political and religious reasons.'' |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:23:42 AM EST
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I wonder what the response would be if the Klan made that same argument. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon said it doubts a policy prohibiting masks could be enforced in a constitutional manner. "A policy that prohibits wearing a mask to a protest will have police focusing on the wrong issue," Sarah Armstrong, a spokeswoman for the group, told the paper. "Behavior is the issue, not the mask,'' she said. "It could be argued that the mask is an important symbolic part of a protester’s message. ... There are many legitimate reasons people wear ‘masks,’ including political and religious reasons.'' 
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Posted: 7/6/2019 9:15:27 AM EST
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no new laws are need, law enforcement needs to ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAW
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Posted: 7/6/2019 10:14:59 AM EST
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nvrmnd. already asked & answered
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Posted: 7/6/2019 10:37:27 AM EST
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“We cannot allow people to continue to use the guise of free speech to commit a crime,’’ police Chief Danielle Outlaw said. It is Portland after all. In before they use this mentality to criminalize any speech they dislike? |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:52:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that is what this is all about, tracking enemies of the communist govt. The foundation is being laid and we cheer it. Be on a govt list, illegal to hide face, arrested for hiding face or arrested due to facial recognition of enemies of the state. Step by step we march toward a totalitarian state with unlimited powers. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:53:34 AM EST
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I wonder what the response would be if the Klan made that same argument. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon said it doubts a policy prohibiting masks could be enforced in a constitutional manner. "A policy that prohibits wearing a mask to a protest will have police focusing on the wrong issue," Sarah Armstrong, a spokeswoman for the group, told the paper. "Behavior is the issue, not the mask,'' she said. "It could be argued that the mask is an important symbolic part of a protester’s message. ... There are many legitimate reasons people wear ‘masks,’ including political and religious reasons.'' |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:56:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Folks have been brainwashed to believe themselves to be constitutionally pre-empted from taking any "common sense" action against leftist thugs, but the left recognizes no such restraints. Pass a damned mask law like the one we have in Florida and if the politically violent thugs believe it to be unconstitional, let them grind their way through the legal system like we're always forced to do. The new political paradigm is that no legal action at all can be taken against violent communist revolutionaries, which plays right into their hands. https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/876.12 876.12 Wearing mask, hood, or other device on public way.—No person or persons over 16 years of age shall, while wearing any mask, hood, or device whereby any portion of the face is so hidden, concealed, or covered as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter upon, or be or appear upon any lane, walk, alley, street, road, highway, or other public way in this state. History.—s. 2, ch. 26542, 1951. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:59:38 AM EST
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“We cannot allow people to continue to use the guise of free speech to commit a crime,’’ police Chief Danielle Outlaw said in a Wednesday news conference addressing last week's violence that occurred when three competing demonstrations converged downtown. “A lot of people are emboldened because they know they can’t be identified,’’ Outlaw said. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 12:03:30 PM EST
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They may not be able to restrict wearing masks in public, but they could likely make it an aggravating offense when a crime is committed.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 12:14:10 PM EST
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It would be perfectly ok with Portland PD if these guys showed up with their faces covered en masse for a protest?
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Posted: 7/6/2019 12:17:47 PM EST
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ACLU has defended the Klan. The ACLU used to be a little more principled. Yeah, they harbored alot of communists but some of their members did at least genuinely want to protect free speech without regard for whose speech was being protected. It was a different time, I guess. Everything is about tribe now and we only pay lip service to the Constitution when it seems convenient to do so. Not accusing you just venting frustration at how far the ideals of our Republic have sunken into a mud pit. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 12:23:45 PM EST
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You all know this is done on purpose, right? Because when they get the power, and it is us wearing masks, the laws will be in place for them to immediately use against us. What needs to actually happen, is LEO's need to do their job and arrest the people committing the violence. Not tuck tail and run away. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 12:33:17 PM EST
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What purpose does passing a new law serve if they don't enforce existing laws.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 2:10:38 PM EST
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What purpose does passing a new law serve if they don't enforce existing laws. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 3:22:27 PM EST
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VA recently (<2 years ago, IIRC) changed their mask law to allow motorcyclists to wear masks in the winter. It is not the mask, it is the actions of the person wearing the mask. IMO, the first thing that should be done is removing the antifa's masks when they start acting out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I actually hate to have that law and if the police really wanted they could apply other laws to groups of people rioting in masks but maybe that's where we are. The problem isn't masks, the problem is a lack of consequences for what they're doing. Would you not agree that outlawing masks gives the state the authority to force identification of people? What about helmets? Same? What if I'm wearing a balaclava, mustache, sunglasses, and a motorcycle helmet with a mirrored visor? Ought I to be forcibly detained or jailed because the police can't see my face? Just for riding a motorcycle and trying to stay warm? It's literally irrelevant. Unless... unless... hmmm. Oh, wouldn't be handy to have an anti-mask law to use against political enemies who just want to protest anonymously? Shit that makes you wonder for $200, Alex. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 3:26:02 PM EST
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Okay. I can understand that there might be some legitimate religious reason to wear a mask in public. But just what the fuck kind of political reason could there be? Other than starting a riot against your political opponents, of course. Virginia law 18.2-422 covers it quite well, since it prohibits wearing a mask only when the wearer does so with the intent to conceal his identity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon said it doubts a policy prohibiting masks could be enforced in a constitutional manner. "A policy that prohibits wearing a mask to a protest will have police focusing on the wrong issue," Sarah Armstrong, a spokeswoman for the group, told the paper. "Behavior is the issue, not the mask,'' she said. "It could be argued that the mask is an important symbolic part of a protester’s message. ... There are many legitimate reasons people wear ‘masks,’including political and religious reasons.'' But just what the fuck kind of political reason could there be? Other than starting a riot against your political opponents, of course. Virginia law 18.2-422 covers it quite well, since it prohibits wearing a mask only when the wearer does so with the intent to conceal his identity. ETA: sirensong noted that possibility just a few posts ago. Florida's law allows for the arrest of someone wearing sunglasses while driving. Then vehicle search incident to arrest, and everything illegal is charged as well. Plead out to a Class D misdemeanor... and viola! Criminal record. A few more like that, and you end up on a prohibited list somewhere, no fly list, extra checks, DUI checkpoints, COP or Sheriff doesn't sign off on any firearm stuff. Personally, I don't want to be on the shit list of any LEA that chooses to ignore assaults and property damage... and an anti-mask law is at least a solid step closer to that. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 3:27:10 PM EST
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Want to vote? Can't require state-issued ID. That would be unconstitutional. Want to protest in public? Can't ban masks in public places. That would be unconstitutional. Want to own a firearm? Must provide ID, proof of safe storage, submit to a background check, and in some cases submit fingerprints and notify local law enforcement. It's a reasonable common-sense compromise. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 3:37:20 PM EST
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Another law that won’t be enforced or fallowed .
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Posted: 7/6/2019 3:40:43 PM EST
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The thought of the massive suit coming their way woke them. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:41:27 PM EST
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I understand but you have to understand that I believe the people (communists) I pictured in my post on the previous page would prosecute a Portland cop who used physical force against the masked communists, ESPECIALLY if one of those communists was physically hurt in the process. The commies in charge told them to stand down...…...if they don't follow that order and hurt a commie masked asshole...…..I believe they would be prosecuted. And prosecuted HARSHLY. What's going on here with Portland, Berkeley, & SFPD (Are there others?) is willing submission via group psychology. They're all going along because they're all going along. It arises due to a lack of both individual & collective conviction to adhere to the oath. When you get right down to it, they've chosen to stand down, turn their heads, & take the money. This is how the 3rd reich took things as far as it did, & how progressive fascism will go unchecked: "good people" willing to allow & even go along with the leadership mouthpieces & the fervent crusaders. "Good people" standing down is how it grows to dominance. Dark Helmet was right: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Certainly too dumb to do anything about evil. So much for good. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 10:04:49 PM EST
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What if the entire force opposes this in solidarity? Arrest & prosecute all of them? Who will do the arresting - county SO? State Police? Obviously, turning in the badge is off the table. "Muh job" is the priority above all else. What's going on here with Portland, Berkeley, & SFPD (Are there others?) is willing submission via group psychology. They all going along because they're all going along. It arises due to a lack of both individual & collective conviction to adhere to the oath. When you get right down to it, they've chosen to stand down, turn their heads, & take the money. This is how the 3rd reich took things as far as it did, & how progressive fascism will go unchecked: "good people" willing to allow & even go along with the leadership mouthpieces & the fervent crusaders. "Good people" standing down is how it grows to dominance. Dark Helmet was right: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Certainly too dumb to do anything about evil. So much for good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I understand but you have to understand that I believe the people (communists) I pictured in my post on the previous page would prosecute a Portland cop who used physical force against the masked communists, ESPECIALLY if one of those communists was physically hurt in the process. The commies in charge told them to stand down...…...if they don't follow that order and hurt a commie masked asshole...…..I believe they would be prosecuted. And prosecuted HARSHLY. What's going on here with Portland, Berkeley, & SFPD (Are there others?) is willing submission via group psychology. They all going along because they're all going along. It arises due to a lack of both individual & collective conviction to adhere to the oath. When you get right down to it, they've chosen to stand down, turn their heads, & take the money. This is how the 3rd reich took things as far as it did, & how progressive fascism will go unchecked: "good people" willing to allow & even go along with the leadership mouthpieces & the fervent crusaders. "Good people" standing down is how it grows to dominance. Dark Helmet was right: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Certainly too dumb to do anything about evil. So much for good. To quote another movie: "Justice must not only be done, it must be seen to be done." |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 10:11:02 PM EST
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Internet messageboard lawyers aside, Florida's mask law works just fine.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 10:28:01 PM EST
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i recognize that there's a 1A component to it, but when it is routinely taken advantage of to commit violence, something ought to be done. simple solution: make it an exacerbating charge (i forget the right term). basically, commit a crime while wearing a mask, and face extra punishment. substantially more for masked violence. masks could still be worn for 1A purposes, but there would be a strong disincentive to go antifa-style. it isn't perfect--masks still make ID more difficult--but i'm suspicious of the idea that government has the authority to dictate what i can and can't wear. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 12:28:50 AM EST
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Internet messageboard lawyers aside, Florida's mask law works just fine.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 12:34:11 AM EST
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Standing by for the video of antifa protests which the cops didn't do anything except arrest mask-wearers. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/tenor-132.gif Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Internet messageboard lawyers aside, Florida's mask law works just fine. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/tenor-132.gif  Auburn University enforces 'no mask' rule at protest |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 1:42:49 AM EST
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Internet messageboard lawyers aside, Florida's mask law works just fine. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/tenor-132.gif  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04HxldSJnMADidn't see any arrests. Didn't even see any forced mask removal (comply or leave if they didn't want to). You watch the video? Respond to the right post? |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:18:02 AM EST
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If conservatives simply start wearing masks, the problem will sort itself.
and anti-mask laws would be passed before the next morning. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 11:00:19 AM EST
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Then they shouldn't be able to dictate what I can and can't carry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i recognize that there's a 1A component to it, but when it is routinely taken advantage of to commit violence, something ought to be done. simple solution: make it an exacerbating charge (i forget the right term). basically, commit a crime while wearing a mask, and face extra punishment. substantially more for masked violence. masks could still be worn for 1A purposes, but there would be a strong disincentive to go antifa-style. it isn't perfect--masks still make ID more difficult--but i'm suspicious of the idea that government has the authority to dictate what i can and can't wear. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 11:26:05 AM EST
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If a Muslim country like Tunisia can do it, so can a commie city like Portland.
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