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Originally Posted By KaiK: That's why it was such a good pump and dump. It had just enough to be believed. And people are holding on until the end. When all the puts expire tomorrow the price is going to super tank. View Quote The puts expire at end of trading day (5pm est?), so plummet will be friday after hours? |
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It’s funny seeing a bunch of companies mentioned in this thread I used to do IR work for back in the day.... I know not to go anywhere near those shit shows with my own $. Most were classic pump and dumps from what I could tell. Big money dude gets some primo pricing on shares because he loans the company $ to keep it afloat....mr big hires IR firm to hype and pump....mr big bails. This isn’t to say there’s no money to be made, but it certainly doesn’t hurt to be in on the ground floor of one of these pumps.
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See: RIOT Looks to be in the middle of a big pump. I wish I had bought shares |
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Originally Posted By shblackdragon: The "professional" analysts seem to call that a "buy point". Makes no sense to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shblackdragon: Originally Posted By IEC: You guys sure like buying at 52 wk highs or after something has already gone up 250%... hope you know when to hit the eject button on the ride up The "professional" analysts seem to call that a "buy point". Makes no sense to me. "bye point" |
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Originally Posted By KaiK: That's why it was such a good pump and dump. It had just enough to be believed. And people are holding on until the end. When all the puts expire tomorrow the price is going to super tank. View Quote @KaiK, it's been years since my ill-considered options trading career went into the crapper. Does the put expiration truly have a known, broad-based effect on the share price? I've been watching MVIS forever, and haven't seen a strong correlation like that...mostly I'd guess because the shareholders heretofore have been do-or-die tech "futurists", not traders. Looking for an entry point, doesn't look like I'll get it today. |
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Originally Posted By Osprey61: @KaiK, it's been years since my ill-considered options trading career went into the crapper. Does the put expiration truly have a known, broad-based effect on the share price? I've been watching MVIS forever, and haven't seen a strong correlation like that...mostly I'd guess because the shareholders heretofore have been do-or-die tech "futurists", not traders. Looking for an entry point, doesn't look like I'll get it today. View Quote Just think of all the people that own puts that bought shares when it dipped super low down to 50 cents. Or bought the shares at .26 before it took off. They exucute them. And people now have a bunch of shares they just paid $1 for that are worth 70 cents. Or whatever the price is when they get the shares. They panic sell them to not lose more money. Driving the price down. If you had a whole bunch of puts that you didn't own cheap shares on you would want to do this at a bottom to crush the price down to rebuy share for your other puts. If you got in at 26 cents buying a put right now would mean you could sell for 1 dollar. They are only selling for 20 something cents. It goes to the moon you are happy to sell stock. If it goes to dirt you use your option. And rebuy at dirt level. |
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For you puts would be pretty cheap insurance against a huge price drop. When it was way over a dollar they would have been really cheap insurance.
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This was just released. The part in red makes sense for MVIS. C’mon Sharma.
Also, to an even lesser degree of interest, they have competition with Amazon. I wonder what big names have had talk with MVIS. Bosch, Tesla, Microsoft, Amazon etc. Microsoft said Thursday it has agreed to acquire Metaswitch Networks, a company with software that telecommunications companies can use to deliver voice and data services to their customers. Terms of the deal weren’t disclosed. The move shows Microsoft’s efforts to target a single industry through inorganic deals rather than building expertise and technology in house. These efforts could help Microsoft gain further adoption of its Azure public cloud, which challenges market leader Amazon Web Services. View Quote In the last five years, Microsoft has merged or acquired 12 companies a year on average. As of this latest acquisition announcement today, they’ve only acquired two so far in 2020. |
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Originally Posted By shblackdragon: The "professional" analysts seem to call that a "buy point". Makes no sense to me. View Quote If you'd bought at the 52wk low preceding the 52wk high, you'd look like a genius. But, I left my crystal ball at home and can't do that. What you want to do is buy the stock that's going to the moon (MSFT, AAPL, GOOG) and avoid buying the stock that's going to zero. What happens before a stock goes to the moon? It hits a 52wk high. And another, and another. A year later you wish you could buy at the price of that first 52wk high. What happens before a company goes bankrupt? The stock hits a 52wk low. |
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Originally Posted By Taxmantoo: If you'd bought at the 52wk low preceding the 52wk high, you'd look like a genius. But, I left my crystal ball at home and can't do that. What you want to do is buy the stock that's going to the moon (MSFT, AAPL, GOOG) and avoid buying the stock that's going to zero. What happens before a stock goes to the moon? It hits a 52wk high. And another, and another. A year later you wish you could buy at the price of that first 52wk high. What happens before a company goes bankrupt? The stock hits a 52wk low. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Taxmantoo: Originally Posted By shblackdragon: The "professional" analysts seem to call that a "buy point". Makes no sense to me. If you'd bought at the 52wk low preceding the 52wk high, you'd look like a genius. But, I left my crystal ball at home and can't do that. What you want to do is buy the stock that's going to the moon (MSFT, AAPL, GOOG) and avoid buying the stock that's going to zero. What happens before a stock goes to the moon? It hits a 52wk high. And another, and another. A year later you wish you could buy at the price of that first 52wk high. What happens before a company goes bankrupt? The stock hits a 52wk low. For a new, not established company, that makes sense. But I see that called out for big companies, tech companies, that everyone knows are going to recover. Saying apple is nearing the buy point, wait until it reaches the 52 week high until you buy seems off. |
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Originally Posted By Taxmantoo: If you'd bought at the 52wk low preceding the 52wk high, you'd look like a genius. But, I left my crystal ball at home and can't do that. What you want to do is buy the stock that's going to the moon (MSFT, AAPL, GOOG) and avoid buying the stock that's going to zero. What happens before a stock goes to the moon? It hits a 52wk high. And another, and another. A year later you wish you could buy at the price of that first 52wk high. What happens before a company goes bankrupt? The stock hits a 52wk low. View Quote i have done decent with the philosophy that i try to take some small upward percentages. i try to avoid the 'homerun' ball. if i can make multiple smaller gains that outweigh my losses, then i can avoid the to the moon or bankrupt events. |
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This stock drives me mad...
I try to buy and it comes within .01 of my price. If I try to sell, the same. I was going to buy 13,000 shares in my brokerage account and it is like someone kept the price just above my price. I was going to buy at .77 and sell at .83. Make a quick $750. But nooooo. |
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Originally Posted By IceStationZebra: This stock drives me mad... I try to buy and it comes within .01 of my price. If I try to sell, the same. I was going to buy 13,000 shares in my brokerage account and it is like someone kept the price just above my price. I was going to buy at .77 and sell at .83. Make a quick $750. But nooooo. View Quote i know the feeling. i was waiting for an in and out trade for GNUS but just couldnt get the timing right. was looking to grab a quick 600. better to not make the trade then to accidentally lose on it. |
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Can someone resuscitate MVIS for us?
Hopefully GNUS brings some action after hours. |
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Originally Posted By IceStationZebra: This stock drives me mad... I try to buy and it comes within .01 of my price. If I try to sell, the same. I was going to buy 13,000 shares in my brokerage account and it is like someone kept the price just above my price. I was going to buy at .77 and sell at .83. Make a quick $750. But nooooo. View Quote If you there were some magic lines the bots use to predict direction change. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By StevesZZ5: This was just released. The part in red makes sense for MVIS. C’mon Sharma. Also, to an even lesser degree of interest, they have competition with Amazon. I wonder what big names have had talk with MVIS. Bosch, Tesla, Microsoft, Amazon etc. In the last five years, Microsoft has merged or acquired 12 companies a year on average. As of this latest acquisition announcement today, they’ve only acquired two so far in 2020. View Quote They also took a huge amount of heat for "overpaying", which turned out to be slightly ironic when it became apparent you really can build a Frankentech monster out of parts if you do it right. Unfortunately they seem to have been stung by some of the criticism, and are fighting a lot harder and more selectively for their acquisitions. Bastards. |
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Originally Posted By KaiK: If you there were some magic lines the bots use to predict direction change. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173565/Screenshot_20200514-151414_thinkorswim_j-1415721.JPG View Quote if you dont mind me asking, what app are you using? thanks. |
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This has been a painful day. I have a money transfer going so there wasnt much buying.
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Today's Microvision history lesson.
There has (almost) always been a modest share price run-up prior to the CCs, mostly in anticipation of an announcement. Almost never happened, and the share sold back down to support the next day. There has (almost) always been a much more significant share price run-up to the ASM, because MVIS has tried to trot out something for the faithful. If not a full PR announcement, information on tech spec upgrades, inside dope on diode green laser development, status of the bathroom renovation, that kind of thing. The buzz from that usually lasted two or three days before selling down - but not always. A lot of it depended more on how the presentation was received than what was actually said. I say this because the last half hour today sure looked like the start of the run-up. Won't surprise me to see gains tomorrow and Monday, just be aware the ASM is mostly early mid-trading-day on Tuesday and if it's a bust the exits will be crowded. This is NOT normal trading. All of the above will be true, unless it's not. |
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This is what happens when you trade with emotion instead of thinking like bot.
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Apparently the CODX conference call was a big hit with the kids. Supposedly someone was playing porn into their phone and it was going out to all of the listeners. lol
I stayed in RMBL today. Going to see what comes tomorrow. I made enough to buy a gas station coffee, medium size, on MARA. Maybe I'll make enough on RMBL tomorrow to get a gas station hooker. |
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Originally Posted By Osprey61: Today's Microvision history lesson. There has (almost) always been a modest share price run-up prior to the CCs, mostly in anticipation of an announcement. Almost never happened, and the share sold back down to support the next day. There has (almost) always been a much more significant share price run-up to the ASM, because MVIS has tried to trot out something for the faithful. If not a full PR announcement, information on tech spec upgrades, inside dope on diode green laser development, status of the bathroom renovation, that kind of thing. The buzz from that usually lasted two or three days before selling down - but not always. A lot of it depended more on how the presentation was received than what was actually said. I say this because the last half hour today sure looked like the start of the run-up. Won't surprise me to see gains tomorrow and Monday, just be aware the ASM is mostly early mid-trading-day on Tuesday and if it's a bust the exits will be crowded. This is NOT normal trading. All of the above will be true, unless it's not. View Quote Thanks for that, I was trying to get in at .75, .76 and .77 all day. I wonder if putting it in two separate orders of 6,600 and 6,700 caused a bot to keep it a penny from my trade price. I'll watch it after hours and premarket and try to get in at a reasonable price and maybe do it by the 1,000 order. I don't know. Whomever bought 1.3 million shares at the close could have bought and saved a lot more by pushing the button earlier. |
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Originally Posted By baxt3r: Apparently the CODX conference call was a big hit with the kids. Supposedly someone was playing porn into their phone and it was going out to all of the listeners. lol I stayed in RMBL today. Going to see what comes tomorrow. I made enough to buy a gas station coffee, medium size, on MARA. Maybe I'll make enough on RMBL tomorrow to get a gas station hooker. View Quote I hope she had some sensible shoes... |
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Originally Posted By shblackdragon: For a new, not established company, that makes sense. But I see that called out for big companies, tech companies, that everyone knows are going to recover. Saying apple is nearing the buy point, wait until it reaches the 52 week high until you buy seems off. View Quote Well, you could have bought AAPL in the summer/fall of 2008 and done well, eventually. If you'd bought late spring of 2009 when it broke out of the March 2008 high, you'd have done well immediately but you'd have paid more than the fall 2008 price. |
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Originally Posted By IceStationZebra: Thanks for that, I was trying to get in at .75, .76 and .77 all day. I wonder if putting it in two separate orders of 6,600 and 6,700 caused a bot to keep it a penny from my trade price. I'll watch it after hours and premarket and try to get in at a reasonable price and maybe do it by the 1,000 order. I don't know. Whomever bought 1.3 million shares at the close could have bought and saved a lot more by pushing the button earlier. View Quote I’ve been sitting on a .77 buy-in order for TWO DAYS and like you guys it was within .005 of that and never materialized. At least three of us in this thread at that price. |
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Originally Posted By StevesZZ5: I’ve been sitting on a .77 buy-in order for TWO DAYS and like you guys it was within .005 of that and never materialized. At least three of us in this thread at that price. View Quote What? Attached File |
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My only winner today was RNWK at 3% lol i should have put all my money here instead of EMAN
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Originally Posted By StevesZZ5: I’ve been sitting on a .77 buy-in order for TWO DAYS and like you guys it was within .005 of that and never materialized. At least three of us in this thread at that price. View Quote If you notice, the one thing I've hammered on consistently throughout this thread was the fact that every business dealing and all the share trading with Microvision has been fucky from day 1 of my time in it. The blog is from Seeking Alpha, and a link to Reddit, but both hammer home points shareholders have made for years. Just coincidentally the FTC (and probably the SEC) are looking hard at the tech majors and their predatory acquisition of the minors. Microvision just happens to have a couple of retired lawyers for shareholders, and they're not happy. It's true, I love a good conspiracy, but this one rings so true on so many fronts...this might get spicy down the road. Reddit thread on MVIS manipulation FTC investigation into tech giant business practices |
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I bought in tonight at .87. It must be a sign. Or I made a drunk buy. Either one
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Originally Posted By Osprey61: If you notice, the one thing I've hammered on consistently throughout this thread was the fact that every business dealing and all the share trading with Microvision has been fucky from day 1 of my time in it. The blog is from Seeking Alpha, and a link to Reddit, but both hammer home points shareholders have made for years. Just coincidentally the FTC (and probably the SEC) are looking hard at the tech majors and their predatory acquisition of the minors. Microvision just happens to have a couple of retired lawyers for shareholders, and they're not happy. It's true, I love a good conspiracy, but this one rings so true on so many fronts...this might get spicy down the road. Reddit thread on MVIS manipulation FTC investigation into tech giant business practices View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Osprey61: Originally Posted By StevesZZ5: I’ve been sitting on a .77 buy-in order for TWO DAYS and like you guys it was within .005 of that and never materialized. At least three of us in this thread at that price. If you notice, the one thing I've hammered on consistently throughout this thread was the fact that every business dealing and all the share trading with Microvision has been fucky from day 1 of my time in it. The blog is from Seeking Alpha, and a link to Reddit, but both hammer home points shareholders have made for years. Just coincidentally the FTC (and probably the SEC) are looking hard at the tech majors and their predatory acquisition of the minors. Microvision just happens to have a couple of retired lawyers for shareholders, and they're not happy. It's true, I love a good conspiracy, but this one rings so true on so many fronts...this might get spicy down the road. Reddit thread on MVIS manipulation FTC investigation into tech giant business practices Seems like MVIS management and lawyers can’t keep up with the big dogs. If it’s all true. I wouldn’t think a large company would manipulate, their attorneys would/should know better than that. But...stranger things have happened, and the SeekingAlpha blog does bring up good points. I was in this for the money and still am, but the tech AND the drama is very intriguing to me now. |
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Originally Posted By KaiK: What? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173565/Screenshot_20200514-171414_thinkorswim_j-1415861.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KaiK: Originally Posted By StevesZZ5: I’ve been sitting on a .77 buy-in order for TWO DAYS and like you guys it was within .005 of that and never materialized. At least three of us in this thread at that price. What? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173565/Screenshot_20200514-171414_thinkorswim_j-1415861.JPG The fuck??? My Vanguard order still stands. I fucked up before and put it at a day instead of until filled, but I didn’t do that this time. |
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Originally Posted By StevesZZ5: Seems like MVIS management and lawyers can’t keep up with the big dogs. If it’s all true. I wouldn’t think a large company would manipulate, their attorneys would/should know better than that. But...stranger things have happened, and the SeekingAlpha blog does bring up good points. I was in this for the money and still am, but the tech AND the drama is very intriguing to me now. View Quote You know how Madoff got caught? It wasn't because he was promising (and delivering) huge percentage returns to his clients, it's because the returns were so consistent it violated every statistical law of average in investing. Seriously, his Ponzi scheme collapsed because his clients almost literally never lost money, and always made a return. The same thing applies as a polar opposite for MVIS. It's not that most of the BOD/CEO's decisions were retarded, or the market usually ran against them, they always were, and it always did. It wasn't just the nebulous "them" out to destroy the company, it was company decisions that weren't just pants-on-head stupid, they defied all logic and seemed intentionally timed to do the most damage. They had an easy time with roping investors. Most of the ASM crowd back in the day were corduroy pants and crepe soled shoe "futurists", easily distracted by shiny objects. It's possible they still are. Lots of anger out there now at the possible end. You think 4Chan weaponized autism is a force to be reckoned with? This is highly educated, widely diversified, mildly affluent, mostly retired autism. And they're in the worst frame of mind possible for these people. They're miffed. |
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Originally Posted By Osprey61: You know how Madoff got caught? It wasn't because he was promising (and delivering) huge percentage returns to his clients, it's because the returns were so consistent it violated every statistical law of average in investing. Seriously, his Ponzi scheme collapsed because his clients almost literally never lost money, and always made a return. The same thing applies as a polar opposite for MVIS. It's not that most of the BOD/CEO's decisions were retarded, or the market usually ran against them, they always were, and it always did. It wasn't just the nebulous "them" out to destroy the company, it was company decisions that weren't just pants-on-head stupid, they defied all logic and seemed intentionally timed to do the most damage. They had an easy time with roping investors. Most of the ASM crowd back in the day were corduroy pants and crepe soled shoe "futurists", easily distracted by shiny objects. It's possible they still are. Lots of anger out there now at the possible end. You think 4Chan weaponized autism is a force to be reckoned with? This is highly educated, widely diversified, mildly affluent, mostly retired autism. And they're in the worst frame of mind possible for these people. They're miffed. View Quote I hope it goes somewhere. It is hard for me to complain but I've seen some crazy hard to understand things happen with this stock. I guess it is entirely possible the 4/1 and 4/2 cringe worthy crazy volume was an intentional manipulation by management design to create the sense of accumulation. Then they hire craig hallum knowing that they are as useful as a football bat and will only accomplish nothing besides lowball offers. Send their minions out to pump the stock. Let the microsoft wet dreams run wild while moving in and out of the stock, making money on non-existent hope of a buyout. Keep the hype going to where the shareholders give them the RS and extra shares to issue and then they keep on playing c suite. Given all I know, this seems preposterous tin foil hat stuff. Given all I've seen, totally possible. I hope some people go to jail if any of this is true. |
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Originally Posted By Osprey61: You know how Madoff got caught? It wasn't because he was promising (and delivering) huge percentage returns to his clients, it's because the returns were so consistent it violated every statistical law of average in investing. Seriously, his Ponzi scheme collapsed because his clients almost literally never lost money, and always made a return. The same thing applies as a polar opposite for MVIS. It's not that most of the BOD/CEO's decisions were retarded, or the market usually ran against them, they always were, and it always did. It wasn't just the nebulous "them" out to destroy the company, it was company decisions that weren't just pants-on-head stupid, they defied all logic and seemed intentionally timed to do the most damage. They had an easy time with roping investors. Most of the ASM crowd back in the day were corduroy pants and crepe soled shoe "futurists", easily distracted by shiny objects. It's possible they still are. Lots of anger out there now at the possible end. You think 4Chan weaponized autism is a force to be reckoned with? This is highly educated, widely diversified, mildly affluent, mostly retired autism. And they're in the worst frame of mind possible for these people. They're miffed. View Quote What happens if they are purchased by Microsoft to our shares/share values? This is all new to me.....I feel like I am standing at a roulette or craps table.....which are both things I enjoy doing. |
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Robinhood flagged me as a day trader so no day trades until August 12th
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Originally Posted By KaiK: Can you not trade extended? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KaiK: Originally Posted By StevesZZ5: The fuck??? My Vanguard order still stands. I fucked up before and put it at a day instead of until filled, but I didn’t do that this time. Can you not trade extended? No. Not with my standard Vanguard brokerage account. And to Osprey61, thanks man. It’s always good hearing your opinion on this company. This whole ordeal is VERY interesting, and keeping with the thread topic. |
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Originally Posted By Sparky: Robinhood flagged me as a day trader so no day trades until August 12th View Quote I thought that’s what Robinhood was all about? Who will you trade with then? Vanguard is pretty bad. I sold less than 24 hours on GE and got a notice. They didn’t outright say I can’t do it, but I’m sure if I wash a few shares of MVIS on the same calendar day I’ll get called on it lol. Signed, the MVIS long |
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Originally Posted By StevesZZ5: I thought that’s what Robinhood was all about? Who will you trade with then? Vanguard is pretty bad. I sold less than 24 hours on GE and got a notice. They didn’t outright say I can’t do it, but I’m sure if I wash a few shares of MVIS on the same calendar day I’ll get called on it lol. Signed, the MVIS long View Quote You can day trade on Robinhood, but you need at least 25k in your portfolio. |
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I never realized you needed a certain amount to day trade. Apparently, Fidelity has a restriction also.
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q3131: I can enjoy necrobeastialexhibitionism as much as the next guy, but homonecrobestailexhibitionism is just plain sick.
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Originally Posted By CajunMojo: I never realized you needed a certain amount to day trade. Apparently, Fidelity has a restriction also. View Quote https://www.sec.gov/files/daytrading.pdf |
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alright what is everyone thinking today. MVIS and MARK rise?
can GNUS keep running? overall market rise? looks like futures are down but that could slowly change at the open. several recent sessions start in the red and recover through the day. ETA: money where my mouth is... got 5000 shares of MARK. looking to get out quickly |
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I believe you can make 3 day trades in a 5 day trading window with a standard Robinhood account. After that, you get hit with a 90 day time out.
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Originally Posted By CajunMojo: I never realized you needed a certain amount to day trade. Apparently, Fidelity has a restriction also. View Quote You didn't have to many moons ago. I think they said they started it to stop new people from losing money or some nonsense. Back in the days of commissions you would lose lots of money doing it. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Chokey: Originally Posted By CajunMojo: I never realized you needed a certain amount to day trade. Apparently, Fidelity has a restriction also. https://www.sec.gov/files/daytrading.pdf I guess it's a good thing i'm a poor, because I suck at day trading. |
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q3131: I can enjoy necrobeastialexhibitionism as much as the next guy, but homonecrobestailexhibitionism is just plain sick.
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