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Posted: 8/17/2021 11:53:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blitzcraig173: Nice data. Delete app and redownload in November? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blitzcraig173: Originally Posted By SWIRE: Who is getting ready for the historical slow down in August followed by the September decline? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/nasdaq_JPG-2056003.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/sp500_JPG-2056004.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/680/market_dow_JPG-2055876.jpg Nice data. Delete app and redownload in November? I use the historical data as a guide of what may be coming. The problem with averages is they don't show the extremes of what happened in a specific year or for a specific company. It also doesn't let you know when during the month the movement was made. If you are holding a position and have been wondering about taking some profits, the historical chart is one more piece of information on the "yes, now is the time to take profits" side of the argument. Or if you are holding something that has been following the trend of pulling back in August, why keep holding it going into a month where prices tend to drop? Of course one could always try to the throw caution to the wind version, selling everything and then either go short or buy leveraged inverse ETFs. I might try that by buying some FNGD. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 11:54:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: Well, that was ill-timed. I guess I need to place another order for 500 @ $13.01 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/5ddc336bfd9db244c913783d-460.gif damn I wish I could throw $6,500 after $7,000. I'm a baby fish compared to many here 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 11:54:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: Well, that was ill-timed. I guess I need to place another order for 500 @ $13.01 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/5ddc336bfd9db244c913783d-460.gif We're all in this game of where's the bottom MAVIS? Show us your bottom  
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Posted: 8/17/2021 11:55:48 AM EDT
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DPLS is on crack today.
I like it. 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:07:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bthorn: DPLS is on crack today. I like it. I'm using all my DPLS funds to average down w/MAVIS. I'm 12 shares from a milestone and have a buy in at 12.87. Accidentally left a 13.50 buy on the board last night and it executed right at pre-market open this morning - oh well 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:08:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: damn I wish I could throw $6,500 after $7,000. I'm a baby fish compared to many here Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: Originally Posted By FelisTacet: Well, that was ill-timed. I guess I need to place another order for 500 @ $13.01 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/5ddc336bfd9db244c913783d-460.gif damn I wish I could throw $6,500 after $7,000. I'm a baby fish compared to many here Originally Posted By Total53: We're all in this game of where's the bottom MAVIS? Show us your bottom https://media.giphy.com/media/eeNqIXPzBgkSZMOecC/giphy.gif Well, there it is. 500 more. Believe me, I don't want to do it again at $12.51 |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:13:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Admiral_Crunch]
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Well, I just sold all my PLTR. Tired of it just sitting there. Moved it to MVIS, which I hope is at or near the bottom of this dip.
So if you're still in PLTR, brace for liftoff. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:19:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: I use the historical data as a guide of what may be coming. The problem with averages is they don't show the extremes of what happened in a specific year or for a specific company. It also doesn't let you know when during the month the movement was made. If you are holding a position and have been wondering about taking some profits, the historical chart is one more piece of information on the "yes, now is the time to take profits" side of the argument. Or if you are holding something that has been following the trend of pulling back in August, why keep holding it going into a month where prices tend to drop? Of course one could always try to the throw caution to the wind version, selling everything and then either go short or buy leveraged inverse ETFs. I might try that by buying some FNGD. I gotcha. I was sure in Jan when everything was amazing that it was going to pull back due to biden/historical summer market but with things like MVIS you can't really go by trends for points you already made. It could be green today if Sumit was a better tweeter. 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:24:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FelisTacet]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blitzcraig173: It could be green today if Sumit was a better tweeter. I'm kind of torn on that. It's obvious they're not worried about the share price day to day, and that's typically a good thing. However, I miss the day to day volatility we enjoyed Q4 2020 to Q1 2021. I could really use that right now while trading options. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:25:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Well, I just sold all my PLTR. Tired of it just sitting there. Moved it to MVIS, which I hope is at or near the bottom of this dip. So if you're still in PLTR, brace for liftoff. Thank you |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:26:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: Well, that was ill-timed. I guess I need to place another order for 500 @ $13.01 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/5ddc336bfd9db244c913783d-460.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: Originally Posted By FelisTacet: MVIS. I just bought 500 more shares at $13.30. Going to try for a quick flip with 8/20 Calls @ $13.50 strike. Well, that was ill-timed. I guess I need to place another order for 500 @ $13.01 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/5ddc336bfd9db244c913783d-460.gif LOL, just dropped into the 12s. Would be great if we were talking 1/4 mile times. 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:32:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chibajoe: LOL, just dropped into the 12s. Would be great if we were talking 1/4 mile times. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chibajoe: Originally Posted By FelisTacet: Originally Posted By FelisTacet: MVIS. I just bought 500 more shares at $13.30. Going to try for a quick flip with 8/20 Calls @ $13.50 strike. Well, that was ill-timed. I guess I need to place another order for 500 @ $13.01 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/5ddc336bfd9db244c913783d-460.gif LOL, just dropped into the 12s. Would be great if we were talking 1/4 mile times. 12s is where they forced me to wear a helmet back in the day when I used to test and tune. If this keeps up, I might need to start wearing one again so I don't hurt myself. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:37:03 PM EDT
[#13]
I have to get better at selling when the gains are present. Less tied to the HOPE.
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:37:10 PM EDT
[#14]
Dpls is up, limit order cancelled. New limit order on our Lady M set at 12.95. Go baby!!!
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:48:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FelisTacet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: New limit order on our Lady M set at 12.95. Go baby!!! If it it dips to $12.51, I'm in trouble. 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 12:51:45 PM EDT
[#16]
$12.88 gap filled. Now go up.
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Posted: 8/17/2021 1:04:25 PM EDT
[#17]
Order filled. TO THE MOON!!!!
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Posted: 8/17/2021 1:06:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: Order filled. TO THE MOON!!!! Mine is at 12.87 - still waiting 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 1:07:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Total53: Mine is at 12.87 - still waiting Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Total53: Originally Posted By myfakename: Order filled. TO THE MOON!!!! Mine is at 12.87 - still waiting $12.51 Please, no. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 1:17:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: $12.51 Please, no. I really don't care if mine hits or not. I will eventually pick up the odd lot shares. If it just takes off, I think most of us are good w/that 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 1:19:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zyx5432: Credit Suisse initiates coverage on ME with Outperform rating and $13 target price. FYI. Good old reliable Fidelity news. Brought to you by the same retards that claimed MVIS $745 Million Revenue last quarter.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 1:28:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CajunMojo: Good old reliable Fidelity news. Brought to you by the same retards that claimed MVIS $745 Million Revenue last quarter. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59505/Capture4_JPG-2056123.JPG Don't interrupt them. It's not market manipulation if it wasn't intentional.
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Posted: 8/17/2021 1:31:30 PM EDT
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We could really use ole Dickface to give us a boost right about now.
 did you see it? |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 1:48:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: I'm kind of torn on that. It's obvious they're not worried about the share price day to day, and that's typically a good thing. However, I miss the day to day volatility we enjoyed Q4 2020 to Q1 2021. I could really use that right now while trading options. I wouldn't want it every day, but just talking at quarterly earnings reports feels very bare minimum. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 2:08:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: $12.51 Please, no. Why not just sell $12.50 puts for this Friday and get paid $30 or so to do it? |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 2:34:21 PM EDT
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I went from telling myself I'm only maxing out at 500 shares of MVIS to now having 616 shares. I can't help myself at this low of price still. Tens of thousands of people cant possibly be wrong about this stock, right?
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Posted: 8/17/2021 2:41:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mj1angier]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vengeance6661: I went from telling myself I'm only maxing out at 500 shares of MVIS to now having 616 shares. I can't help myself at this low of price still. Tens of thousands of people cant possibly be wrong about this stock, right? Well I don’t know if’s a $30 stock but as long as it moves $1-2 up and down I make money. I am not in a long term, bet the house relationship with it. More like fuck buddies lol |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 2:50:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mj1angier: Well I don’t know if’s a $30 stock but as long as it moves $1-2 up and down I make money. I am not in a long term, bet the house relationship with it. More like fuck buddies lol I've seen it hit $30, AH but still $31, I really want to see it again And she's having a little pre-power hour pop on very little volume, really MAVIS quit being such a bad girl. 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:21:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colt_thompson: Why not just sell $12.50 puts for this Friday and get paid $30 or so to do it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colt_thompson: Originally Posted By FelisTacet: $12.51 Please, no. Why not just sell $12.50 puts for this Friday and get paid $30 or so to do it? My original plan was to sell puts to get shares before I bought the 1,000 outright. I changed my plan because I wanted the shares, and selling $13.50 calls in them for this Friday nets me more money. The $12.51 order now looks like it won’t hit, so selling puts for this Friday on those isn’t a bad idea. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:23:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Total53: I've seen it hit $30, AH but still $31, I really want to see it again And she's having a little pre-power hour pop on very little volume, really MAVIS quit being such a bad girl. https://media.giphy.com/media/XtD5Nwjxsxw0E/giphy.gif This shouldn't be turning me on, should it?
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:26:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FelisTacet]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By war86: This shouldn't be turning me on, should it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By war86: Originally Posted By Total53: I've seen it hit $30, AH but still $31, I really want to see it again And she's having a little pre-power hour pop on very little volume, really MAVIS quit being such a bad girl. https://media.giphy.com/media/XtD5Nwjxsxw0E/giphy.gif This shouldn't be turning me on, should it? Uhhh...admittedly I was staring at that gif for a good minute before I snapped out of it. That initial bend over she does...
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:27:17 PM EDT
[#32]
Anyone waiting for an MVIS bump before selling calls? I seem to have missed a good entry and the price keeps dropping.
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:31:04 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Corporal_Chaos: Anyone waiting for an MVIS bump before selling calls? I seem to have missed a good entry and the price keeps dropping. For my shares purchased before today, yes. See my post from yesterday, call selling premiums suck right now because of the drops. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:35:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Set me straight on covered puts. A covered put means I have the funds to cover the strike price, not the actual shares? Different from covered calls, where I own the stock and sell the option to buy my shares at a specific strike price.
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:36:03 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By war86: This shouldn't be turning me on, should it? To each their own  It's been on my screen all day and I was just looking for a place to use it, seemed apropos 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:37:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Total53]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: Set me straight on covered puts. A covered put means I have the funds to cover the strike price, not the actual shares? Different from covered calls, where I own the stock and sell the option to buy my shares at a specific strike price. The correct terminology is Cash Secured Put (CSP) and yes having the cash or margin (God forbid) available is advisable. EDIT: To cover the share price for 100 per contract. When you sell when you receive the premium. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:37:47 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: Set me straight on covered puts. A covered put means I have the funds to cover the strike price, not the actual shares? Different from covered calls, where I own the stock and sell the option to buy my shares at a specific strike price. Correct. That’s what a cash-secured put (covered) is. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:42:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Originally Posted By Total53: The correct terminology is Cash Secured Put (CSP) and yes having the cash or margin (God forbid) available is advisable. EDIT: To cover the share price for 100 per contract. When you sell when you receive the premium. Originally Posted By FelisTacet: Correct. That’s what a cash-secured put (covered) is. Thanks! I don't have the cash floating around for secured puts anyway. I guess I'll wait for a pop to sell some covered calls though. She is still up over my buy in. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:43:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mj1angier: Well I don’t know if’s a $30 stock but as long as it moves $1-2 up and down I make money. I am not in a long term, bet the house relationship with it. More like fuck buddies lol I thought we all agreed it was a $60+ stock and if it's the will of the people then who are we to argue? 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:47:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vengeance6661: I thought we all agreed it was a $60+ stock and if it's the will of the people then who are we to argue? Amen to that, why have one melon when you can have 2? 
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:50:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: Thanks! I don't have the cash floating around for secured puts anyway. I guess I'll wait for a pop to sell some covered calls though. She is still up over my buy in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: Originally Posted By Total53: The correct terminology is Cash Secured Put (CSP) and yes having the cash or margin (God forbid) available is advisable. EDIT: To cover the share price for 100 per contract. When you sell when you receive the premium. Originally Posted By FelisTacet: Correct. That’s what a cash-secured put (covered) is. Thanks! I don't have the cash floating around for secured puts anyway. I guess I'll wait for a pop to sell some covered calls though. She is still up over my buy in. I thought you were one of us already selling calls? The part in red: Well, that means its "safe" to sell covered calls since you would normally select a price OTM (out of the money) and ABOVE your cost basis. The part in blue: I don't blame you at all, especially if you don't have a lot of shares to play with and ESPECIALLY if you chose a strike date further out than say weekly options. I hate selling calls on specific shares for small premiums on stuff past a week from expiration only to get a nice share price pop a few days later where I could have grabbed sweet premiums...but in that case you can buy back the calls and roll out even further if you want. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:51:37 PM EDT
[#42]
Besides nsav my portfolio is is only a mild smoldering dumpster today.
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:53:47 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: I thought you were one of us already selling calls? The part in red: Well, that means its "safe" to sell covered calls since you would normally select a price OTM (out of the money) and ABOVE your cost basis. The part in blue: I don't blame you at all, especially if you don't have a lot of shares to play with and ESPECIALLY if you chose a strike date further out than say weekly options. I hate selling calls on specific shares for small premiums on stuff past a week from expiration only to get a nice share price pop a few days later where I could have grabbed sweet premiums...but in that case you can buy back the calls and roll out even further if you want. Not on Mavis. Sold some calls on me and sens last month. Looking at premiums it doesn't look appealing. I still have a feeling she is going to pop back to 17ish. Biding my time.
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:55:52 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: Not on Mavis. Sold some calls on me and sens last month. Looking at premiums it doesn't look appealing. I still have a feeling she is going to pop back to 17ish. Biding my time. Agreed, within a week or two hopefully. Though selling calls on SENS, you should be used to shitty premiums.
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Posted: 8/17/2021 4:01:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1969GTX]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: Agreed, within a week or two hopefully. Though selling calls on SENS, you should be used to shitty premiums. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: Originally Posted By myfakename: Not on Mavis. Sold some calls on me and sens last month. Looking at premiums it doesn't look appealing. I still have a feeling she is going to pop back to 17ish. Biding my time. Agreed, within a week or two hopefully. Though selling calls on SENS, you should be used to shitty premiums. I am. If I'm reading it right I got .40 per out of it. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 4:09:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FelisTacet]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: I am. If I'm reading it right I got .40 per out of it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: Originally Posted By FelisTacet: Originally Posted By myfakename: Not on Mavis. Sold some calls on me and sens last month. Looking at premiums it doesn't look appealing. I still have a feeling she is going to pop back to 17ish. Biding my time. Agreed, within a week or two hopefully. Though selling calls on SENS, you should be used to shitty premiums. I am. If I'm reading it right I got .40 per out of it. Per share? did you sell $3 strikes? I can't remember when I sold them but my ten 8/20 @ $4.50 got me .05 a share. My thirty-one 9/17 @ $5.00 got me .08 a share. SENS is due for a run, so I chose higher somewhat safe strikes. Hindsight says maybe I should have been a liiiiiitle more aggressive. EDIT: My SENS puts on the other hand, I'm riding the fence on those. Sold TWENTY 8/20 @ $3.00 strike, made .34-.39 a share on those. I kind of don't care if they are ITM at close on 8/20, I kind of want them, but I have a lot of puts that may be ITM come the close of 8/20. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 4:12:54 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FelisTacet: Per share? did you sell $3 strikes? I can't remember when I sold them but my ten 8/20 @ $4.50 got me .05 a share. My thirty-one 9/17 @ $5.00 got me .08 a share. SENS is due for a run, so I chose higher somewhat safe strikes. Hindsight says maybe I should have been a liiiiiitle more aggressive. Aug 20 '21 3.50 call @ .40. Sold on 7/7/2021 |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 4:15:47 PM EDT
[#48]
another terrible day for Lidar
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Posted: 8/17/2021 4:16:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: Aug 20 '21 3.50 call @ .40. Sold on 7/7/2021 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myfakename: Originally Posted By FelisTacet: Per share? did you sell $3 strikes? I can't remember when I sold them but my ten 8/20 @ $4.50 got me .05 a share. My thirty-one 9/17 @ $5.00 got me .08 a share. SENS is due for a run, so I chose higher somewhat safe strikes. Hindsight says maybe I should have been a liiiiiitle more aggressive. Aug 20 '21 3.50 call @ .40. Sold on 7/7/2021 See my edit above. And yeah, those further out ones are nice(r) if you're able to get a decent premium. 8/20, too. I remember reading about third-week-of-the-month options are the best to sell, but I don't recall why other than they net higher premiums typically. I have my spreadsheet highlighted for the third Friday of the month for that reason, I look closely at those premiums. |
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Posted: 8/17/2021 4:22:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snakes19: another terrible day for Lidar @snakes19 You're not lying: MVIS: -$0.47 (-3.39%) LAZR: -$1.04 (-6.06%) VLDR: -$0.21 (-3.04%) AEVA: -$0.14 (-1.75%) OUST: -$0.65 (-7.23%) INVZ: -$1.15 (-14.43%) ouch |
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