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Posted: Yesterday 11:40:36 PM EST
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I really don't think it will get past the appeal process.
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Posted: Yesterday 11:40:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: TheAlmightyYak]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm:  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By backbencher: Or we march on New York and free the duly elected President? Will there be time to reclaim Virginia’s oysters from Maryland beforehand?? |
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Posted: Yesterday 11:42:05 PM EST
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Ignoring the fact where they just plain can’t do that, he would also have the option to stay in FL until inauguration if he wants to. Do you think DeSantis is going to let them come down and extradite him back to NY? That’s a fight I’d like to watch from afar.
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PA, USA
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Posted: Yesterday 11:43:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: He’s not inaugurated yet and isn’t covered. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Pallas: He has Presidential immunity, he would have to serve his sentence after his term is finish, iirc. He’s not inaugurated yet and isn’t covered. Haven't you packed your bags yet to go to the Ukraine? You're z boy is gonna need all the help He can get the next four years. |
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USA
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Posted: Yesterday 11:46:45 PM EST
[#5]
 NY Attorney General Letitia James vows to resist any efforts by Trump for “retribution” against her |
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Posted: Yesterday 11:47:02 PM EST
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Posted: Yesterday 11:47:29 PM EST
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Really? Man, represent 2003 better!
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Posted: Today 12:22:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By eddie500: ....................................third world countries, they jail their political opponents. What do you think would happen if New York State decides to send Trump to prison for his entire term? Firstly: Donald Trump, as President Elect DOES have Secret Service protection. Second: Donald Trump has "At least a few" citizen supporters that WOULD bear arms in his defense. I'd bet at least 2 or 3 readers of this very thread would show up with a standard capacity magazine and stand between Trump and The State of New York. |
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Posted: Today 12:42:20 AM EST
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You drug out your alter ego to make this post?
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UT, USA
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Posted: Today 12:43:33 AM EST
[#10]
<Do_It.gif>
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Posted: Today 12:44:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jollyg83: Rikers Island becomes Marine One or something. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jollyg83: Originally Posted By 9divdoc: Full Secret Service Detail Rikers Island becomes Marine One or something. Island One |
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Posted: Today 12:47:00 AM EST
[#12]
hang on, op help is on the way
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AL, USA
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Posted: Today 1:05:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eddie500: I'm not sure what would happen, this is just like anyone else getting arrested. There would be an arrest warrant and I guess the marshals would find him and take him in? The Federal government is full of democrats and would allow it. Ain't nobody arresting Trump. |
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USA
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Posted: Today 1:22:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryDam that's one ugly dude ! |
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Posted: Today 1:42:47 AM EST
[#15]
This has got to be close to the top of the election stupidity threads. How long before the dust settles and this place returns to semi-normal conversation?
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Posted: Today 1:44:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: He has Presidential immunity, he would have to serve his sentence after his term is finish, iirc. I believe this is the case. He would need to be impeached first if he is president. |
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Posted: Today 1:45:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: He’s not inaugurated yet and isn’t covered. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Pallas: He has Presidential immunity, he would have to serve his sentence after his term is finish, iirc. He’s not inaugurated yet and isn’t covered. Maybe but wouldn't he need to be released at that point to be inaugurated. I guess we are in uncharted territory. |
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Posted: Today 1:52:19 AM EST
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If the state of New York continues to pursue this case and attempts to arrest Trump the next US Attorney General can just file a cease and desist order against the state of New York for prosecuting charges for infractions/transgressions beyond the statute of limitations. There are so many holes in the case brought against Trump that the federal government can step in and shut them down.
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Posted: Today 1:55:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: Ronin76]
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(Double Tap)
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Posted: Today 3:25:58 AM EST
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Popping PMags.
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Posted: Today 3:29:00 AM EST
[#21]
Secret Service would have something to say about that.
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VA, USA
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Posted: Today 3:34:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: Ibn_Huq]
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Posted: Today 4:13:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: K9-Bob]
[#23]
Is this another "Never Trumper" thread or a drunk post by the OP?
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Posted: Today 4:21:09 AM EST
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is it true that the only reason this case moved forward was because NY changed (extended) statute of limitations? seems verge of conspiracy.
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Posted: Today 4:29:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: Aimless]
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The judge absolutely could sentence Trump to a long prison sentence. Trump's lawyers have filed a motion arguing that Trump is now, or will be, immune to being sentenced while in office just like he was immune to being prosecuted when he was in office the first time.
I suspect the judge is too chicken to toss a popularly elected president in prison over some low level felonies. The judge would go down in history as a lunatic and laughingstock. An initial appeal would go to a NY appellate court full of Trump hating leftists. I think everyone (I mean judges) would have been thrilled to toss Trump in prison, have him lose the election and laugh about it. Now I bet the appellate court has lost its appetite for bailing out the trial judge. Trump won, and overwhelmingly won and did pretty good in NY and NYC, for a Republican, at least for New York. It's like when King Kong was brought in a cage to Broadway for all the New Yorkers to point at-oh shit the cage broke he's looose! Hochul should just pardon him, but she lacks the good sense and is too beholden to the far left in NY. I bet she's scared shitless now that he's loose and climbing up the side of the Governor's mansion, peering in windows looking for her while biplanes chatter at him with machinegun fire.  Anyway I bet the judge will either rule in favor of saying he's immune, or that sentencing has to be put on hold until he's out of office again. The judge could just fine him and call it a day. It's a low level felony and Trump has been a law abiding citizen who has created jobs for New Yorkers. If he goes nuts and sentences Trump to jail or prison I bet the sentence could be put on hold during the appeal, which could take 4 years |
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Posted: Today 4:33:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mikNtx: is it true that the only reason this case moved forward was because NY changed (extended) statute of limitations? seems verge of conspiracy. In NY the statute of limitations is put on hold when a defendant is not in the state. That has been interpreted to mean that every day you aren't inside NY the statute of limitations stops. I think that's a misreading of the statute but that interpretation is from NY's highest court and precedes the Trump prosecutions. The prosecution did get a longer statute of limitations by filing this as a felony v a misdemeanor. The felony filing seems ripe for reversal on appeal since the prosecution never really proved that properly in my opinion |
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Posted: Today 4:34:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: I did. Or, you’re too dented to look it up yourself. You can see the above link. Here’s Trump v US: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf Which cites: https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2587191009008442950&q=nixon+v+fitzgerald&hl=en&as_sdt=6,24 That you would find, in the above link from the DOJ. Fitzgerald, linked, shows us that former presidents are immune. Trump v US tells us that he has presumptive immunity. There is zero legal standing here. The DOJ is dropping the cases. And civil cases have to change course now. They cannot interfere with his official duties. Which, being President elect, is a smooth transition of power. Stop being emotional and just posting like an idiot. There has been plenty published about this. Stop being a dent head. I enjoy your use of the term "dent" and will add it to my repertoire. My use of "mouth breather" to describe GD is getting old. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: Today 4:37:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By opti12206: How is it that a 2003 account can post such inane drivel? The OP's writings are barely coherent and the content is somehow even worse than the structure. Please tell me you're drunk OP. At least that would be a valid excuse around these parts. |
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Posted: Today 4:39:31 AM EST
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This whole thing is a great example of a dog catching a car. The squirming by the judge(s) in NY now that Trump won is glorious.
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Posted: Today 4:40:06 AM EST
[#30]
New York is full of unarmed leftists. I’d wager they don’t have the capacity to back up their shit talking.
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Posted: Today 4:47:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Like_Button: New York is full of unarmed leftists. I'd wager they don't have the capacity to back up their shit talking. |
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Posted: Today 5:38:38 AM EST
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I think the judge should consider how long he and his daughter will survive in prison, when President Vance directs the feds to look into their shady deals and profiteering from persecuting Trump.
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USA
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Posted: Today 5:40:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eddie500: I'm not sure what would happen, this is just like anyone else getting arrested. There would be an arrest warrant and I guess the marshals would find him and take him in? The Federal government is full of democrats and would allow it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eddie500: Originally Posted By Sierradyne: Who is going to arrest him OP? I'm not sure what would happen, this is just like anyone else getting arrested. There would be an arrest warrant and I guess the marshals would find him and take him in? The Federal government is full of democrats and would allow it. That is pretty obvious from the OP. Kids should never skip civics class. |
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Posted: Today 5:41:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: He’s not inaugurated yet and isn’t covered. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Pallas: He has Presidential immunity, he would have to serve his sentence after his term is finish, iirc. He’s not inaugurated yet and isn’t covered. Keep up the good fight. Resist! |
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Posted: Today 5:44:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryHer and a few others should be disbarred then there is the matter of what it cost Trump to defend various lawfare. |
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Posted: Today 5:48:53 AM EST
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He will have immunity for his term. About all the could do is file the warrant and see what higher courts say.
At the worst they file the warrant, maybe it's picked up by interpol, and they issue a notice, would just cause minor inconvenience in pretty much all countries except for maybe Iran. Just because it's issued, there are exceptions to being served.plenty of people out there with WFAs that get released by LE due to exceptions. |
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Posted: Today 6:19:01 AM EST
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Trump should let them arrest him, then run the country from jail.
That'd be gangster. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: Today 6:22:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Post the case law. He’s not the president yet. I can be wrong but your above post references a “sitting president”. He ain’t there yet. January 19 no. January 22nd yes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: Stop bro. It’s getting old. The Department of Justice has issued two detailed memorandum opinions, one in 1973 and another in 2000, discussing a sitting president’s scope of immunity from criminal and civil actions. In both opinions, the Department determined that a sitting president cannot be indicted, prosecuted or jailed for a criminal claim while in office. Trump vs US already has stated he has presumptive immunity. It’s over. Drop it. Post the case law. He’s not the president yet. I can be wrong but your above post references a “sitting president”. He ain’t there yet. January 19 no. January 22nd yes. He received a Full Presidential Secret Service detail yesterday. That is going to be an issue. |
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Posted: Today 6:24:08 AM EST
[#39]
....who's first in the stack to carry that out?
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Posted: Today 6:24:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: RustedAce]
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Imagine foreign leaders having to come to his cell to do summits etc.
He should totally go to jail, it'd be hillarious. Trump just sitting there in an orange jumpsuit as Kier Starmer comes and begs him not to invade England. |
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Posted: Today 6:26:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: runcible]
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Originally Posted By eddie500: This is very serious stuff, and very possible that it could happen as NY could do this. Originally Posted By RustedAce: Trump should let them arrest him, then run the country from jail. That'd be gangster. |
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Posted: Today 6:27:45 AM EST
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To some of you here,
"You have our deepest condolences that your girl lost." |
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Posted: Today 6:29:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By eddie500: Yes this could happen... The tinfoil is strong with this one. 
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Posted: Today 6:47:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Or we march on New York and free the duly elected President?  
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