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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:30:31 AM EST
Assume school is free, so that doesn't factor in, and healthcare isn't an issue. No family or kids, just her.

First question is what is the sweetest WFH job available today with a bachelors or even associates, with little experience?

Second question, which degree and 'foot in the door' volunteering/intern/job would you get to facilitate getting that job?

I'm trying to help a friend build a plan centered around having the absolute flexibility of WFH to be able to travel around the country while working with a starlink on the roof. She thinks shooting for $50k take home would be sufficient and realistic.

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Lots of companies like Apple and some insurance companies do WFH with no degree or anything.
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How high is her skill?

maybe virtual assistant, or social media manager?
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Without an already established career or work experience, most "unskilled" wfh jobs pay peanuts.
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The idea was floated, but she's not a braindead zoomer that wants to deal with shitty incels and thirsty dudes to get paid.

She was recently also considering biochem and a couple other STEM programs at a large uni. She's a smart cookie.
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Not looking for unskilled, just without a huge experience requirement. She'll have 'skills' from a degree.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:44:30 AM EST
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Online university advisor/admissions advisor/success coach.

There are remote options for private and public universities online side of things.
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Customs broker in Illinois.
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I wouldn’t count on it.
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I know adults with degrees who make a living walking dogs and house sitting.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:52:21 AM EST
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We hire QA starting out in the $60k range, full time remote.  I got a couple of my friends into that with zero degree or computer experience beyond checking emails.
The ones that are good move up to $100k within a year, then tend to move around within the company to more technical and higher paying positions.
That plan is pretty reliant on somebody who is technical and good at teaching themselves.

I have also seen some folks do really well at bug bounties.  Everything you need to know to get started is 100% free.  You can go to school for it if you want.  Then you get started somewhere like harkerone.  You are your own boss and decide when and how much you want to work.  There are some 17yr olds who are naturally good at it bringing home over $1M.  Realistically, most people will be getting $200 - $2000 bugs.  But they add up and you can live off those.

Getting into tech and WFH may be hard these days.  You're competing with all these hundreds of thousands of way more experienced people that got laid off in the past couple years.
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The idea was floated, but she's not a braindead zoomer that wants to deal with shitty incels and thirsty dudes to get paid.

She was recently also considering biochem and a couple other STEM programs at a large uni. She's a smart cookie.
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That part gets subcontracted.
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I wouldn’t count on traveling like that. It’s going to fuck up tax withholdings and most employers won’t allow it.
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Wife has lots of WFH jobs.  

Starting with customer service for a couple health insurance companies.  Now she works for the state dept of workforce development doing workman’s comp stuff.  Very flexible hours but she’s required to go into the office once a week.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 12:00:54 PM EST
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I'd also like to see some real-world input from medical coders.  I have some family members giving that a shot.  You can pay a couple grand and take a 12 week class, then pass your boards and you're licensed.  There are quite a few remote medical coding job listings.  My aunt even pulled up some working for the VA.  You can work from home and get that sweet government sit-on-your-ass lifestyle with all the holidays off, plus the federal government retirement and pension.

My family members are at the end of the schooling and taking the boards.  I haven't seen their experience getting into the working world of it.  
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Took me awhile to realize what WFH means.  Lots of WFH tech workers in the Saratoga library. I take it they count that as being in the office since they are not at home.

Many still wear their employers access cards which seems dumb to me. Since I have stock in Apple, Google, FB, and others, I'm always thinking to myself that they should get back into the office and work, damn it.

It's a minority that can be as or more productive than the office as my experience being a manager in software labs.
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Customs broker, from what I hear.

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She was recently also considering biochem and a couple other STEM programs at a large uni. She's a smart cookie.
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Doesn't want to work with shitty thirsty dudes
Going into STEM
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I was going to say something similar.

Maybe I'm old and out of touch but I think the expectations of OP and friend are unrealistic.
That "ultimate freedom, Starlink on the roof" gig comes with being one the top performers in your field; a known expert that employers will hire despite being a digital nomad.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 12:06:40 PM EST
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Assume school is free, so that doesn't factor in, and healthcare isn't an issue. No family or kids, just her.

First question is what is the sweetest WFH job available today with a bachelors or even associates, with little experience?

Second question, which degree and 'foot in the door' volunteering/intern/job would you get to facilitate getting that job?

I'm trying to help a friend build a plan centered around having the absolute flexibility of WFH to be able to travel around the country while working with a starlink on the roof. She thinks shooting for $50k take home would be sufficient and realistic.

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The best WFH gigs are the ones that were exclusively in office prior to 2020 and migrated to WFH

Really the question shouldn't be about what is the best WFH jobs she can get. . . .  it should be about what sort of jobs is she most qualified for (would pay the most) then try and find one within that field that offers WFH as a benefit.

The sad truth is that "WFH" and "little experience" are tough to marry up, because everyone wants one of those jobs.

The closest I've found, when trying to provide guidance to a friend in a similar situation, is that apparently Apple will hire completely WFH customer service gigs in the United States. They pay anywhere from $18 to $25/hours according to the job boards.
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Doesn’t fit the “degree but no experience” requirement.
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I was going to say something similar.

Maybe I'm old and out of touch but I think the expectations of OP and friend are unrealistic.
That "ultimate freedom, Starlink on the roof" gig comes with being one the top performers in your field; a known expert that employers will hire despite being a digital nomad.
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I wouldn't count on traveling like that. It's going to fuck up tax withholdings and most employers won't allow it.
I was going to say something similar.

Maybe I'm old and out of touch but I think the expectations of OP and friend are unrealistic.
That "ultimate freedom, Starlink on the roof" gig comes with being one the top performers in your field; a known expert that employers will hire despite being a digital nomad.


This.
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I'd also like to see some real-world input from medical coders.  I have some family members giving that a shot.  You can pay a couple grand and take a 12 week class, then pass your boards and you're licensed.  There are quite a few remote medical coding job listings.  My aunt even pulled up some working for the VA.  You can work from home and get that sweet government sit-on-your-ass lifestyle with all the holidays off, plus the federal government retirement and pension.

My family members are at the end of the schooling and taking the boards.  I haven't seen their experience getting into the working world of it.  
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Certified coder is not easy at all. My wife owns her own medical billing and consulting company and works 100% from home. She also has almost 30 years experience in healthcare from front office to back office, to management. She makes well into the 6 figures, so much actually I retired at 45.

Entry level person just starting out will not even come close to these numbers.
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Link Posted: 9/6/2024 12:30:05 PM EST
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$50k in a van is poverty. Most women want a proper bathroom & shower, which means an RV instead of a van.  

We start engineers at $80k+, but you must have a degree from an ABET accredited program with a 3.0 and pass the FE exam. And report to the office once per week, so it limits how far you can go.

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Link Posted: 9/6/2024 12:34:19 PM EST
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I've seen some for customer support, such as for a cruise line or other travel related thing.

Carnival has some.

https://jobs.carnival.com/location/united-states-jobs/241/6252001/2

These aren't very high paying but they are WFH.

The big WFH money is in tech and you need solid skills to score those.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 12:35:14 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/6/2024 12:36:43 PM EST
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Customer service.

Without any skills to present out the outset, she may have difficulty in finding anything to let her be fully remote.

I wouldn't count on a degree providing the skills needed -- I've seen many degree holders, even advanced degree holders, be absolute idiots.

YMMV.  Jobs are out there but she may need to dig a bit and be willing to start at the bottom.
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A lot of the FAANG companies are doing hybrid-mandated work schedules to appease local governments that gave them tax incentives and maintain their commercial real estate values.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 12:38:01 PM EST
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Almost any WFH job can be outsourced to a different country where they only have to pay the employee pennies on the dollar.
Good luck.

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A lot of the FAANG companies are doing hybrid-mandated work schedules to appease local governments that gave them tax incentives and maintain their commercial real estate values.
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I posted similar above in that he could be speaking to Apple Customer Service as opposed to an actual Mag 7 tech job.

I found out about Apple Customer service because I watch a shit ton of "Caleb Hammer, Financial Audit" and learned a lot of unskilled people get paid a pretty decent amount ($20+ an hour) working completely remote via CS roles for Apple.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 12:46:47 PM EST
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A real plan would be to  become a nurse then get a job as a traveling nurse.  

Good pay, constant work opportunities and lots of travel.

But what you describe is just bring a van life bum.  Only Fans or YouTube channel (or both) seem to be popular options.

I know people with consultant jobs who could essentially do what is being asked, but the reason they have the consultant job is the numerous decades of experience within that industry.  You don’t come out of school with and suddenly become an on-demand consultant.  

It’s possible there’s some sorts of software developer jobs that can be done remotely.  

I don’t see any engineering job where part of your responsibility is dealing with hardware being viable, fully remote across the country.  

I’m in the aerospace industry and there’s a few experience engineers in my department who have gotten permission to live semi-remotely and the vast majority of work from home.  But all of them are within a few of our facility so that in an emergency, we can say hey be in the office tomorrow and they can drive in and grab a hotel room nearby.  
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I was going to say cybersecurity for us unattractive males though

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The play is 1 dude pulls pictures from AI or from other OF accounts.  You can pretend to be 10 different women all on different accounts.  Flirt with the simps over PM and rake in the cash.  Its the flirting and attention they really pay for.
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I clicked on the thread just to see if this would be here.  
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The idea was floated, but she's not a braindead zoomer that wants to deal with shitty incels and thirsty dudes to get paid.

She was recently also considering biochem and a couple other STEM programs at a large uni. She's a smart cookie.
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Obviously not if she ruled out onlyfans. Highest paying WFH a woman could possibly get it seems.
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We hire QA starting out in the $60k range, full time remote.  I got a couple of my friends into that with zero degree or computer experience beyond checking emails.
The ones that are good move up to $100k within a year, then tend to move around within the company to more technical and higher paying positions.
That plan is pretty reliant on somebody who is technical and good at teaching themselves.

I have also seen some folks do really well at bug bounties.  Everything you need to know to get started is 100% free.  You can go to school for it if you want.  Then you get started somewhere like harkerone.  You are your own boss and decide when and how much you want to work.  There are some 17yr olds who are naturally good at it bringing home over $1M.  Realistically, most people will be getting $200 - $2000 bugs.  But they add up and you can live off those.

Getting into tech and WFH may be hard these days.  You're competing with all these hundreds of thousands of way more experienced people that got laid off in the past couple years.
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My wife is coming off two years of intensive cancer treatment.  We could stand to here more
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