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Posted: Today 4:37:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: DaveM4P99]
He's not all that interested in the best of the best, so can't be too expensive. Maybe sub $500.
ETA...upped his budget. Thinking A300 Ultima. He had a ton of fun pheasant and duck hunting when I've taken him out. Now he wants his own shotgun. Would be nice if it was somewhat suitable for HD...but mostly will be a range / hunting gun. Obviously an 18inch cylinder is best for HD, but I'm thinking we'd want something a bit longer with a modified or so choke. Open to semi auto or pump options. Thanks! |
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Posted: Today 4:44:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: C3H5N3O9]
[#1]
Sub $500, you’re looking at some flavor of Remington 870, Mossberg 500, or something turkish. I have a Remington 870 express, and it’s feels cheap, but it works. I have no idea how new production Remington QA is though.
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Posted: Today 4:46:56 PM EST
[#2]
Under 500.00
Go to your nearest rural king or sportsman warehouse |
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Posted: Today 4:52:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: pr24guy]
[#3]
Bring it up to $800 -$900 and you can get a great shotgun.
Something like a A300 Uplander from Beretta. |
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USA
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Posted: Today 4:52:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: DaveM4P99]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pr24guy: Bring it up to $8 -900 and you can get a great shotgun. Something like a A300 Uplander from Beretta. Yeah I may have to recommend this. Find an A300 or something comparable. |
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Posted: Today 4:54:13 PM EST
[#5]
You'll be hard pressed to find anything semi-auto in that range.
Mossberg 500/590 would be my go-to. |
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Posted: Today 4:54:22 PM EST
[#6]
Tri-Star Viper G2
copy of the beretta 390 great semi-auto reliable 12ga |
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NH, USA
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Posted: Today 4:57:15 PM EST
[#7]
Mossberg 500 with two barrels. It's simple, has an ambidextrous safety. One barrel is 18.5 inches cylinder bore and the other is 20 inches or more Modified choke or even better with screw in chokes. Your are done and did not break the bank.
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NC, USA
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Posted: Today 5:00:00 PM EST
[#8]
Stoeger M3000 is in that range
it uses the Benelli style inertia recoil system |
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Posted: Today 5:00:28 PM EST
[#9]
Holland and Holland
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Posted: Today 5:03:29 PM EST
[#10]
Personally, I think bird/trap/skeet and home defense are mutually exclusive.
One wants you to have multiple chokes, long barrel(s), bead sight, and capacity is a non-issue The other wants a shorter barrel, high capacity, and maybe an optic or at least night sights. If your budget limits you to one gun, maybe find one with two barrels - an 18" for HD and a 22"+ for sport. Better would be an o/u for trap/skeet, and then a pump or semi auto for HD. You can get both for <$1000. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: Today 5:04:09 PM EST
[#11]
I vote for a 500. New, they have packages with an HD barrel and a sporting barrel, and used there are a million 500 barrels out there in different configurations. I've had my original one since 1976, and have like 5 barrels for it, plus 4 other 500s that I use for clay birds, real birds, HD and slugs.
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Posted: Today 5:04:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: Makarov]
[#12]
Either a Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 with a two Barrel set (a 26”-28” barrel for skeet/trap/birds) and an 18.5” barrel for home defense.
If they are a new shooter, encourage them to take some safety and then training courses followed by lots of meaningful practice. Rinse and repeat. |
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Posted: Today 5:06:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: azjogol]
[#13]
Look at Franchi. I have a couple of them in semi-autos and they are great guns.
ETA: Forgot I also have a CZ semi-auto that runs fantastic. |
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Posted: Today 5:06:58 PM EST
[#14]
Mossberg 500 or 88 with two barrels.
$420 https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/mossberg-500-3-in-1-combo-shotgun/p/1503780 $300 https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/mossberg-maverick-88-field-security-combo-12-gauge-3in-blued-pump-shotgun-185in28in/p/1506620 |
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FM, USA
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Posted: Today 5:07:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: flyhack72]
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: Stoeger M3000 is in that range it uses the Benelli style inertia recoil system This if you want a semiauto Benelli Supernova, 870, 500 would be good pump options. |
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COL
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Posted: Today 5:08:05 PM EST
[#16]
Who did he vote for? That will determine if he deserves any advice at all.
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MD, USA
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Posted: Today 5:17:53 PM EST
[#17]
Old 970 Wingmaster
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OK, USA
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Posted: Today 5:18:35 PM EST
[#18]
Mossberg maverick 88 2 barrel combo. They're surprisingly reliable and cheap enough for a new shooter to afford more ammo for practice or, not as much of a loss if they don't decide to go down the rabbit hole of guns.
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Posted: Today 5:22:41 PM EST
[#19]
Cz are great for the price.
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USA
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Posted: Today 5:25:01 PM EST
[#20]
Ok convinced him to go higher. He likes the A300 Ultima Synthetic.
Now off to find the best price. I'm seeing $879 most everywhere. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: Today 5:27:21 PM EST
[#21]
Old wingmaster. My last one was $350, but I doubt that's still the price, even though it really wasn't that long ago. That one was from the EE.
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Posted: Today 5:28:03 PM EST
[#22]
The whole concept of a home defense shotgun is ridiculous. The odds of any home owner having to defend his domicile from invaders is pretty far-fetched. But in the unlikely event somebody would need to do so, any normal hunting shotgun would handle the task just fine. The notion that you're going to be clearing rooms and ducking in and out of narrow spaces with your shotgun is pure Walter Middy fantasy.
For $500, get a common pump (870 Wingmaster, Ithaca 37 or Mossberg 500) with a 26" or 28" screw-in choke barrel on the used market. Or, shop around until you find a good used Remington 1100 or 11-87 for your price. But the shotgun for the most likely uses: skeet, trap, sporting clays, hunting. A gun for those things will handle the duty of standing on the porch and telling a trespasser to "Git!" just fine. |
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Posted: Today 5:28:05 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4P99: Ok convinced him to go higher. He likes the A300 Ultima Synthetic. Now off to find the best price. I'm seeing $879 most everywhere. Great choice. |
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Posted: Today 5:32:21 PM EST
[#24]
Eh, for $500 I'd say get a pair of Stevens 320s. A Security 18 inch for HD, and a Field for other uses.
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Posted: Today 5:34:41 PM EST
[#25]
500 or 870.
Couple barrels, hunter’s safety course, go shoot trap/skeet with him once a month. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: Today 5:37:24 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bladeswitcher: The whole concept of a home defense shotgun is ridiculous. ... But the shotgun for the most likely uses: skeet, trap, sporting clays, hunting. A gun for those things will handle the duty of standing on the porch and telling a trespasser to "Git!" just fine. Joe -- is that you ??  |
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Posted: Today 5:45:50 PM EST
[#27]
  Yes I pulled it out of a backpack at my club as lead off on a busy trap night |
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Posted: Today 5:59:03 PM EST
[#28]
Another vote for the 500 or 870 with 2 barrels.
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USA
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Posted: Today 6:02:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: Homernomer]
[#29]
ETA: the parameters changed after the OP.
NVM |
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FL, USA
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Posted: Today 6:04:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: FlamingDragon]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C3H5N3O9: Sub $500, you’re looking at some flavor of Remington 870, Mossberg 500, or something turkish. I have a Remington 870 express, and it’s feels cheap, but it works. I have no idea how new production Remington QA is though. Yup, you can get a pump action Remington 870 express magnum with 21.5" removable choke barrel for HD & trap/skeet for around $300 used. I have no problems with mine, it's just a simple bare-bones reliable pump-action. Pretty lightweight and balanced too. When it comes to home defense you're not gonna want to room clear with a shotgun anyways, just hold a strong point and defend and wait for an attacker to come within your kill zone. So don't worry about how long the barrel is. |
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Posted: Today 6:18:15 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: Joe -- is that you ?? Nah, just somebody who has lived 65 years on this earth, including a fair amount of time in sketchy neighborhoods, without ever having to defend my home from anything more dangerous than a rabid racoon. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: Today 6:33:13 PM EST
[#32]
Lol..I am 68. I have had this year people knock on my door and ask for money, They said they have been watching me for 2 weeks.. 2 weeks… |
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Posted: Today 6:44:10 PM EST
[#33]
If you dont want to spend a lot of money, H&R Pardner Pump less than $200 on sale. Its a knock off of the Rem 870.
 Not joking.Or do the Maverick 88 with 2 barrels for around $250. If you want to spend the $500, the Mossberg or Remington are good option. Go with what feels best to you. |
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Posted: Today 7:15:12 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peanutman: Lol..I am 68. I have had this year people knock on my door and ask for money, They said they have been watching me for 2 weeks.. 2 weeks… Did you shoot them with your shotgun? If not, do you think a short-barrel tactical shotgun would have shot them better than a longer barreled hunting shotgun? Why or why not. Please show your work. |
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