Posted: 4/7/2025 7:14:28 PM EDT
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Yet another one... News report sez a Hiller H23 and 2 injured. |
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Accidents and accident rates are down, but fatalities are up. https://explore.dot.gov/t/FAA/views/RotorcraftAccidentDashboard/FYBriefing?%3Aembed=y&%3Aiid=1&%3AisGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y |
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Originally Posted By osprey21: The only piston engine helicopter I've ever ridden in and felt halfway safe was the venerable old UH-34D. Weren’t those pretty well loved? There’s a guy around here that has one, it’s immaculate and awesome to see flying. |
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Originally Posted By Sierra5: Weren’t those pretty well loved? There’s a guy around here that has one, it’s immaculate and awesome to see flying. The guy who dies with the |
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Originally Posted By Ameshawki: Saw the video. Looks like the tail rotor, actually most of the tail detached. Came straight down. Two maybe three seconds. You can see the main rotor system and transmission as one unit off the fuselage, so that's most likely what chopped the tail off as it departed. The LongRanger has a hell of rotor system that really the only thing that will rip the gearbox out like that is a major imbalance. The rotor blades looked to their full length, so perhaps a TT strap. They will figure this out pretty quick soon once they recover that system from the water. The company I used to work for had a blade break mid span almost 20 years ago.....blade had hundreds of hours, no issues balancing, but a small area missing epoxy finally had enough and decided to let go one day and a very similar set of events took place. They found the gearbox several hundred yards past the crash site--thats how much force ripped it out of there. That same amount of force also (hopefully) incapacitated the crew, so they did not experience they final seconds. |
Damn.  310 down in Boca Raton (KBCT). 3 dead. AvWeb link |
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms: Trump is in office and the MSM (and others) want people to feel dissatisfied and unsafe until he leaves. There aren't "more" crashes, the media is assuring that ALL incidents get wide coverage. The higher the body count the better. Accident rates have actually gone down but everything is getting news coverage and making it seem like there are more. |
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Originally Posted By Ameshawki: Read the pilot in the NY helicopter crash had just under 800 hours. Is that normal for that type of gig? Do people use these as hour builders before moving on to something better? Not judging, genuinely curious. Totally normal. Most of these helicopter tour companies operate under FAA Part 91. Minimum hours for a commercial license is 200. I was flying tours in an R44 with, IIRC, about 250 hours. Between 200 and 500 hours most folks are doing the CFI thing in Robinsons, and/or tours in the R44. 500 hours seems to be the threshold for moving on to a turbine tour gig, which is pretty much the next step up the ladder. This is generally the insurance underwriter requirement. It's also the minimum total hours for Part 135 operations. Even though tours are generally Part 91, folks running turbine helicopters are very likely to have Part 135 operating certificates, so it's only natural that they'll want pilots they can use for 135 charter gigs. After a few hundred hours of turbine tours, then it's time to start thinking about moving up the ladder again. |
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Originally Posted By aa777888-2: Totally normal. Most of these helicopter tour companies operate under FAA Part 91. Minimum hours for a commercial license is 200. I was flying tours in an R44 with, IIRC, about 250 hours. Between 200 and 500 hours most folks are doing the CFI thing in Robinsons, and/or tours in the R44. 500 hours seems to be the threshold for moving on to a turbine tour gig, which is pretty much the next step up the ladder. This is generally the insurance underwriter requirement. It's also the minimum total hours for Part 135 operations. Even though tours are generally Part 91, folks running turbine helicopters are very likely to have Part 135 operating certificates, so it's only natural that they'll want pilots they can use for 135 charter gigs. After a few hundred hours of turbine tours, then it's time to start thinking about moving up the ladder again. Originally Posted By aa777888-2: Originally Posted By Ameshawki: Read the pilot in the NY helicopter crash had just under 800 hours. Is that normal for that type of gig? Do people use these as hour builders before moving on to something better? Not judging, genuinely curious. Totally normal. Most of these helicopter tour companies operate under FAA Part 91. Minimum hours for a commercial license is 200. I was flying tours in an R44 with, IIRC, about 250 hours. Between 200 and 500 hours most folks are doing the CFI thing in Robinsons, and/or tours in the R44. 500 hours seems to be the threshold for moving on to a turbine tour gig, which is pretty much the next step up the ladder. This is generally the insurance underwriter requirement. It's also the minimum total hours for Part 135 operations. Even though tours are generally Part 91, folks running turbine helicopters are very likely to have Part 135 operating certificates, so it's only natural that they'll want pilots they can use for 135 charter gigs. After a few hundred hours of turbine tours, then it's time to start thinking about moving up the ladder again. Thanks |
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Originally Posted By delorean: Where are you getting this info? He's putting way too much into a statement in the OP's news article. "The aircraft was described as a private helicopter which took off from Merritt Island Airport and was heading to an unknown destination. It has an 18.8-gallon gas tank which was leaking, yet it’s still under investigation whether the leak was caused by the crash, Deakins said." |
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Originally Posted By MudEagle: He's putting way too much into a statement in the OP's news article. "The aircraft was described as a private helicopter which took off from Merritt Island Airport and was heading to an unknown destination. It has an 18.8-gallon gas tank which was leaking, yet it’s still under investigation whether the leak was caused by the crash, Deakins said." Originally Posted By MudEagle: Originally Posted By delorean: Where are you getting this info? He's putting way too much into a statement in the OP's news article. "The aircraft was described as a private helicopter which took off from Merritt Island Airport and was heading to an unknown destination. It has an 18.8-gallon gas tank which was leaking, yet it’s still under investigation whether the leak was caused by the crash, Deakins said." Oh gotcha......thought it was in reference to the NYC crash. |