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Quoted: Yep. The draft is coming. You would have to be completely delusional to believe the government would simply let every single branch fade away from existence. But, before the draft, I expect we will see some things before it happens in a last-ditch attempt to avoid the draft. How to avoid the draft? In all honestly the only people in this country that can prevent the draft from happening are the school faculty members. They need to push the CEP, they need to push the lists, they need to allow recruiters to give presentations and interact with students. Most importantly, schools, and parents, need to stop bad-mouthing the military or the draft will be coming for their children. View Quote Dude, where do ya'll get this shit? I did an assignment with selective service. You have no goddamned clue what you're talking about. Also the DoD may need to consider paying more than McDonalds, but I honestly think they would draft before paying that much. View Quote This is how I really know you don't know what you're talking about. A junior member of the E4 mafia makes the equivalent (when you include tax breaks and free medical) of about $50K, in a job with a 4 day weekend every month in addition to the 30 days vacation, unlimited sick leave, and just about no-questions-asked 30% VA disability after a few years service if your job consisted mainly of fucking off. The pay/bennies are NOT the issue. The issue is the average 18-20 year old doesn't want to be told to stop fucking off all day by some 30 year old geezer. The selective service will only happen if the a significant portion of the military gets turned into radioactive debris, and if that happens, you will have way bigger problems to think about than how to stop it. |
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Quoted: Drafting people older than 50 would be kinda pointless really. You'd have all sorts of discipline issues, and it would bleed into the younger ranks. Older people are set in their ways, they aren't going to charge into a machine gun nest just because you tell them to. View Quote Do I get my cart? Yes/No |
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Meh arthrosis of the subtalor joint with no ability to roll my foot in and out.
Though with what I do for the goobermint already I wouldn't be surprised if they waive it and send my ass out doing what I already do lol. |
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I'm 66, used to be 6'2" and weigh 170. Arthritis and some nerve damage. I could probably do some pretty useful things if pressed into service, if they could convince me that whatever war they concoct isn't the first fake war based on lies since the founding of this country. That last bit is a tall order.
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Quoted: Dude, where do ya'll get this shit? I did an assignment with selective service. You have no goddamned clue what you're talking about. This is how I really know you don't know what you're talking about. A junior member of the E4 mafia makes the equivalent (when you include tax breaks and free medical) of about $50K, in a job with a 4 day weekend every month in addition to the 30 days vacation, unlimited sick leave, and just about no-questions-asked 30% VA disability after a few years service if your job consisted mainly of fucking off. The pay/bennies are NOT the issue. The issue is the average 18-20 year old doesn't want to be told to stop fucking off all day by some 30 year old geezer. The selective service will only happen if the a significant portion of the military gets turned into radioactive debris, and if that happens, you will have way bigger problems to think about than how to stop it. View Quote Not to mention free housing, food, and medical. The military actually pays people better than 90% of the jobs that would hire them at 18 years old. |
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MRD 07/08/2024 what me worry…….. back door draft of Stop Loss…
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My oldest son is not that far from .mil age.
He is in fantastic shape (another triathlon on this week) and knows how to fight (BJJ & wrestling for several years, crack shot with his 15-22 and shoots my .223 AR's just fine). Top 10% in standardized tests across all subjects. I've raised him to love this country and taught him about the founding fathers and the Constitution since he could read. He is a proud American, and the hardest working kid I've ever seen. I know he'll be a great leader some day. The kid says he wants to be a SEAL when he grows up. I used to think I'd be so proud of him if he went that way. After the Afghanistan pull out disaster and becoming 100% disillusioned about how fucking stupid the leadership is in this country is, I dont think I could stomach him going to fight in some bullshit pointless war. I almost think I should have raised him to to be a commie ANTIFA LGBTQ or whatever if that is what the result would be. |
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the la raza minority majority parties will negotiate w congress to have their party members registered to la raza party vote to be excluded in texas, arizona, california, south daktoka, and nevada
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Quoted: MRD 07/08/2024 what me worry…….. back door draft of Stop Loss… View Quote I would imagine they would start by recalling any veteran without a 20 year retirement. That would hardly impact John Q Voter's daily life aside from him posting a few supportive hashtags for veterans and then completely forgetting about them again. |
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People here who don't think it will happen need to go read that Army war college paper talking about 3,600 casualties a day and needing 800 new people a day.
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Quoted: I wouldn't be shocked to see them push for something like mandatory military service after HS, with a bunch of carve-outs to make sure the people they want to protect are excluded. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: the draft will happen, but not be limited by the ways you describe. dod will be a 2/3s non volunteer service by 2040. I wouldn't be shocked to see them push for something like mandatory military service after HS, with a bunch of carve-outs to make sure the people they want to protect are excluded. |
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Quoted: People here who don't think it will happen need to go read that Army war college paper talking about 3,600 casualties a day and needing 800 new people a day. View Quote War College paper vs. Millions of pissed off taxpayers/parents. Hmmm. Ima gonna hafta think about that for a moment. Your moment's up. Paper loses. |
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Quoted: We aren't Russia. Americans still have a conscience even during combat in my experience. We can't stomach some of the worst parts of war, the body parts of children stacked like firewood, the bodies of executed women with their legs stuck spread-eagle by rigor-mortis. That's why so many come back messed up, it's something we don't see here, and we aren't conditioned to it. It was something the taliban used against us, they knew we didn't like hearing children in pain so they would injure some to draw us in for an ambush. To get American military officers to execute old conscripts for not charging into mustard gas would require a big rewiring. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: they will when they consider the alternative. We aren't Russia. Americans still have a conscience even during combat in my experience. We can't stomach some of the worst parts of war, the body parts of children stacked like firewood, the bodies of executed women with their legs stuck spread-eagle by rigor-mortis. That's why so many come back messed up, it's something we don't see here, and we aren't conditioned to it. It was something the taliban used against us, they knew we didn't like hearing children in pain so they would injure some to draw us in for an ambush. To get American military officers to execute old conscripts for not charging into mustard gas would require a big rewiring. After a few times… no one cares…”I have watch, sleep, then we switch.” |
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Yes, I want my kids drafted to go fight and die for some illegitimate kiddy diddling evil motherfuckers in Washington DC. Fuck that bullshit. The draft resistance will be unlike anything ever seen in our history and rightfully so. How anyone would hand their sons over to these sons of bitches after what’s happened over the last 3 years is beyond me. It’s really saying something when right wing patriotic Americans, often veterans themselves, no longer have faith that the US govt isn’t just going to use their kids as cannon fodder for purposes that are not related to the existential survival of this country. It’s all a joke now and I predict that many aren’t going to participate in this bullshit.
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Quoted: Yep. The draft is coming. You would have to be completely delusional to believe the government would simply let every single branch fade away from existence. But, before the draft, I expect we will see some things before it happens in a last-ditch attempt to avoid the draft. We all know how we got here, PC bullshit and politicians that have failed to employ our war machine with any sort of efficiency beyond their own personal interest. What to expect before the draft actually happens: Mandatory MHS Genesis reporting Not all medical providers are currently enrolled. This system allows the government to see your entire medical history and pre-screen you for military service. As of March 2022 this system became the first step going to MEPS, you get pre-screened before you even go. The system has the ability to simply pre-screen everyone without submitting the documents MEPS requires for prescreening an applicant. Not only will this give the government the ability to see how fucked they are, it will become the "step 1" for initiating the draft. no longer will they simply pull birthdays. Leniency for various medical conditions and prescriptions Now that everyone will (maybe) be aware o the new system in place, they will get their children prescribed a medication that will get them banned from service. The DoD will roll out new exceptions to policy that are job-specific. Since the implementation of the new MHS Genesis screening last year, there have already been massive changes to policy, including automatic "pre-approvals" for certain medical conditions and you still swear in, you just have to do the already in-place place process to get the waiver after the fact. Cracking down on prescriptions for kids The government will nearly simultaneously crack down on prescriptions for youth. enough said there. Along with that, expect the government to secure medication supplies Enforcing School Access for Recruiters there are already laws in place that tie school funding to recruiters having access to the student body. they are largely in part not enforced. I would argue that school faculty have played a large roll in the current recruitment issue through various means of denying recruiters access to students. This will also include standardizing the process for student contact information being delivered to recruiters, likely through a website vs what they do now. There are a lot of ways schools make it difficult for recruiters to get lists, but right now the recruiter for each branch has to find the person in the school that makes the list and practically beg them for it (not all of them, but enough of them, and they're often incomplete). Along with this will come more swift consequences than the current process which is long and slow. Mandatory CEP The Career Exploration Program will become mandatory. This is the school ASVAB for those unfamiliar, but it also does help with seeing where people are good fits for certain types of jobs. There are currently a slew of categories you can sign up for in terms of what info goes to the "the system," but soon there will be only one option... all your info goes to the system. It would not be unreasonable to expect there be monetary incentives for schools to score high; with the potential for specific individuals with high scores to be offered a direct bonus for specific jobs in specific services. Will the SAT and ACT become irrelevant? How to avoid the draft? In all honestly the only people in this country that can prevent the draft from happening are the school faculty members. They need to push the CEP, they need to push the lists, they need to allow recruiters to give presentations and interact with students. Most importantly, schools, and parents, need to stop bad-mouthing the military or the draft will be coming for their children. Also the DoD may need to consider paying more than McDonalds, but I honestly think they would draft before paying that much. View Quote What is the point of mandatory genesis reporting if we are going to do increased medical leniency. |
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Quoted: Mandatory MHS Genesis reporting Not all medical providers are currently enrolled. This system allows the government to see your entire medical history and pre-screen you for military service. View Quote The government can't read a list as long as my orthopedic surgeries alone, good luck! |
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Quoted: Yes, I want my kids drafted to go fight and die for some illegitimate kiddy diddling evil motherfuckers in Washington DC. Fuck that bullshit. The draft resistance will be unlike anything ever seen in our history and rightfully so. How anyone would hand their sons over to these sons of bitches after what's happened over the last 3 years is beyond me. It's really saying something when right wing patriotic Americans, often veterans themselves, no longer have faith that the US govt isn't just going to use their kids as cannon fodder for purposes that are not related to the existential survival of this country. It's all a joke now and I predict that many aren't going to participate in this bullshit. View Quote expect similar compliance rates when the draft for WWIII kicks off. |
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1. The draft is for both sexes.
2. No conscientious objector status..they a work in a hospital or something. 3. Anyone who hasn't served in the military between 18-60 will do two years national service. There will be NO excuses from service. They may just answer phones, or pick up dog shit at the animal shelter, but they will do 2 years national service. Even Senators or Secretary of a national department from the president will serve..they can do 2 years national service as Secretary of defense, at the same pay as the guy who picks up dog shit at the animal shelter. NO ONE avoids some kind of national service unless they are under 18 or over 60. We will find something for you to do. 4. Anyone who serves in the military and receives an honorable discharge can automatically receive US citizenship if they desire..no testing or anything other than stating that they wish to receive US citizenship. 5. National service is different than military service. Military service gets standard military pay, those who opt for national service receive 75% of military pay, and they do NOT automatically get citizenship after completing their national service. But I'm not king and no one gives a shit what I think would be good. |
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Lolz, there would be mass noncompliance if a draft was enforced. The country has finally recognized that our politicians care very little about the soldiers they send to bleed on foreign soil for their pet projects. I know I certainly won't be responding to any draft notice.
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Quoted: lol Holy shit this thread is dumb View Quote I expect a more reasoned response from you, like making a cogent argument why a draft will never happen, not a drive-by insult. For extra fun, assume two carrier groups are on the bottom of an ocean, multiple US military bases have been hit with tactical nukes, infiltrators have knocked out power and water to major cities here at home and 150,000 Chinese and Iranian soldiers are massing south of the border. It not only could happen, it could easily happen. |
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There won't be a draft in the next 20 years.
The numbers are no where as low as during the post Vietnam "hollow Army" and we did not reconstitute the draft then. At one time my 20 man tank platoon had 9 men, including me. |
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Quoted: I expect a more reasoned response from you, like making a cogent argument why a draft will never happen, not a drive-by insult. For extra fun, assume two carrier groups are on the bottom of an ocean, multiple US military bases have been hit with tactical nukes, infiltrators have knocked out power and water to major cities here at home and 150,000 Chinese and Iranian soldiers are massing south of the border. It not only could happen, it could easily happen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: lol Holy shit this thread is dumb I expect a more reasoned response from you, like making a cogent argument why a draft will never happen, not a drive-by insult. For extra fun, assume two carrier groups are on the bottom of an ocean, multiple US military bases have been hit with tactical nukes, infiltrators have knocked out power and water to major cities here at home and 150,000 Chinese and Iranian soldiers are massing south of the border. It not only could happen, it could easily happen. lol x2 |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol Holy shit this thread is dumb I expect a more reasoned response from you, like making a cogent argument why a draft will never happen, not a drive-by insult. For extra fun, assume two carrier groups are on the bottom of an ocean, multiple US military bases have been hit with tactical nukes, infiltrators have knocked out power and water to major cities here at home and 150,000 Chinese and Iranian soldiers are massing south of the border. It not only could happen, it could easily happen. lol x2 Convincing argument. |
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Pink and blue hair, women who think they're men or men who think they're women, people who identify as animals to go 1st.
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Quoted: lol x2 View Quote If you had told me back in 2013 that people would forcibly be locked in their houses, have their businesses shuttered, forced to wear panties on their face when shopping for groceries and arrested for walking their dogs and no one would revolt or even do anything about it I would have given this same response. You can't assume anything in clown world. |
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Welcome fellow firearms enthusiast.
And how long do we have before said draft is implemented? 96 hours maybe? |
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Quoted: They need to try recruiting more trannies and homosexuals. And think about demonizing straight white men some more. I think their current strategy is a winning one, they just need to double down. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm not a mathematician, but when the Army is missing it's recruiting goals by 25%, they can only pull so many tricks out of their hat to increase retention and stop the bleed. Stoploss might buy them some time, but unless they can get the recruitment up, it will still fail. They need to try recruiting more trannies and homosexuals. And think about demonizing straight white men some more. I think their current strategy is a winning one, they just need to double down. Send the women, fags and trannies to fight, die and get gang-raped for globohomo. |
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