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Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
https://i.redd.it/5g4du6bo56t11.jpg https://www.ancient.eu/img/r/p/500x600/2372.jpg?v=1485680624 https://ashtronort.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/anim-17-sided-stone-inca-stonework1.gif?w=547 The last picture here, an expert mason would struggle to cut that with diamond edge tools  Ancient cultures used hand tools to survive. It was their art, their soul, livelihood and their culture. We can go to the moon. Their stonework was their Moon landing. Edit- You also don’t see all of the mistake blocks that didn’t fit. |
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Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Part of the problem is we think in the wrong time scale. Our constructions take months, maybe years for a big project. Ancient people took decades, maybe hundreds of years for theirs. It's difficult for us to comprehend. |
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Originally Posted By FistPeso:
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: All those ancient giant skeletons that don’t seem to actually exist anywhere... |
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Those puzzle walls look like some dumbass with no architectural knowledge found an laser beam and instead of making perfectly square rocks to make a wall just used it to cut rocks to fit other rocks no matter the shape. Yeah I know they're cut so perfect they interlock without needing mortar, but that's still what it looks like!
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Please list the museums featuring giant humanoid remains, and peer reviewed analysis of these skeletons. All I can seem to find are faked pictures and wild stories... Mulder and Scully know the truth. |
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Originally Posted By Thor:
Those puzzle walls look like some dumbass with no architectural knowledge found an laser beam and instead of making perfectly square rocks to make a wall just used it to cut rocks to fit other rocks no matter the shape. Yeah I know they're cut so perfect they interlock without needing mortar, but that's still what it looks like!  Every time I cut rocks the pieces always fit back together ever so snug. Its the kookiest thing |
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
Please list the museums featuring giant humanoid remains, and peer reviewed analysis of these skeletons. All I can seem to find are faked pictures and wild stories... Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
Originally Posted By FistPeso:
Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: All those ancient giant skeletons that don’t seem to actually exist anywhere... Just the nature of the creature. |
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If it wasn't the Incas, it was their local predecessors, no?
I'm not buying aliens or time travelers or any other cockamamie nonsense. Basically what you're saying is that Italians didn't build the Coliseum, Romans did. The British didn't build Stonehenge, Druids did. What's the difference? Humans that lived in the area built this stuff. What point are you trying to make? |
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Originally Posted By TerribleTom:
If it wasn't the Incas, it was their local predecessors, no? I'm not buying aliens or time travelers or any other cockamamie nonsense. Basically what you're saying is that Italians didn't build the Coliseum, Romans did. The British didn't build Stonehenge, Druids did. What's the difference? Humans that lived in the area built this stuff. What point are you trying to make? |
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: I always hear that, but can't you see the tool marks on the stones where they were hand-fitted? Didn't they also find numerous examples of the tools used in the fitting? Never underestimate the tenacity of folks without the distraction of internet pornography. |
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Originally Posted By Fidel_Cashflow:
What's more likely? A bunch of people working under slave labor conditions spent an obscene amount of time shaping and stacking rocks with primitive tools. or Aliens with the technology for interstellar travel came down from the sky to build stone forts on mountain top because reasons. |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
That the masonry techniques and the logistics of building on the mountain top are nothing short of a miracle given the tools available at that time. I do not find it any more difficult to believe than similar work in Egypt, China, or wherever. Ancient people were just as smart as modern people. They didn't have the same technology, obviously, but the raw brain power of humans has not changed dramatically for thousands of years. |
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Originally Posted By Ciraxis:
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Originally Posted By Drsalee:
If they could built such badass shit thousands of years ago.......why hasn't diddly-squat bubbled out of that area since? Time passes, shit happens, things change. |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
The fact that these stones are made of granite. They were cut without any metal tools having been invented yet. Many of these stones had right angle inside corners cut into them. Try cutting a right angle inside corner using modern tools. It makes you wonder why they cut such elaborately shaped stones when square or rectangular stones would have been much easier to cut and stack.  |
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Originally Posted By ricomock: Is that supposed to imply that there is a level of difficulty doing it with modern tools? But Of course it would be very difficult doing it even with a metal hammer and a hardened metal chisel. Imagine doing it by pounding on it with another rock or 87. |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover: Electric powered diamond saw or a water jet cutter maybe not too hard. But Of course it would be very difficult doing it even with a metal hammer and a hardened metal chisel. Imagine doing it by pounding on it with another rock or 87. I still use a hammer and chisel ( not hardened) to do a lot of stone shaping. Rocks break fairly easy and in very straight lines if you do it correctly. |
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It was Elvis. He built the pyramids and Stonehenge. He also is responsible for the Bermuda Triangle because Commodore Elvis needs boats. Mojo Nixon made a documentary about it. See 1:49 in the following video:  Failed To Load Title |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
That the masonry techniques and the logistics of building on the mountain top are nothing short of a miracle given the tools available at that time. Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:
If it wasn't the Incas, it was their local predecessors, no? I'm not buying aliens or time travelers or any other cockamamie nonsense. Basically what you're saying is that Italians didn't build the Coliseum, Romans did. The British didn't build Stonehenge, Druids did. What's the difference? Humans that lived in the area built this stuff. What point are you trying to make? There were upwards of 250k in the Titicaca Basin - some estimates as high as 500k. Obviously the ag and infrastructure was sufficient to support and produce surplus for a society dedicated to building ritual sites. What is a miracle is anyone wants to be at 12,500 permanently. I've been over high passes (I thought I had altitude down. Being on the altiplano wears you. I get people are acclimated - but holy shit why go in the first place. |
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The Incas put a lot of time and effort sanding those stones to fit.
They were also highly advanced in agriculture producing 3000 different potatoes Other than that they were backwards in many other ways, like not having a written language |
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Originally Posted By headstoner: You have no idea what you are talking about. They have tons of diamonds in south America, put one on the end of a stick and you can drill through rock. Hit a rock with a harder rock and you can easily shape the softer stone. I still use a hammer and chisel ( not hardened) to do a lot of stone shaping. There are not to many rocks harder than granite that could be used to "beat" a granite bolder into shape. I am just pointing out that to make something like the below stone using just stone tools is nothing short of miraculous. With its inside corners with right angle edges and bottom cutouts/notches. 
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:
The Anunnaki. Why is our society based around Gold? Just because its shiny? Or maybe because we were created to mine it, as it was the most valuable thing to the gods? Humans are completely incompatible with the earth, we need to age 10+ years before we can do anything, need to literally wear animals to endure the cold, wear animals on our feet... etc.. Nibiru is coming |
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Originally Posted By 2minkey: That guy is completely full of shit. He needs to take a basic logic class. Incas built it. Then they abandoned it after Spain kicked their ass. It was not "discovered" later. The locals knew about it the whole time. Let them run with it, we need the entertainment! |
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
unskilled slaves were doing complicated stone cutting? |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
Having been stone mason for a number of years, I do know a little something about stone work. There are not to many rocks harder than granite that could be used to "beat" a granite bolder into shape. I am just pointing out that to make something like the below stone using just stone tools is nothing short of miraculous. With its inside corners with right angle edges and bottom cutouts/notches. https://enigmachannel.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/640px-puma_punku12.jpg?w=768 If you think those people sanded rocks until they fit together instead of cutting rocks then putting them back together you may also believe people cut funny shapes into cardboard then sand other pieces of cardboard until they fit perfectly...eventually they end up with the whole 1000 piece puzzle. 
Cutting stone is very easy. Lifting huge stones can be done with lever action by a single individual. How on earth did I do this? 
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Originally Posted By headstoner: Then you should know that granite has wildly varying degrees of hardness, due to the feldspar vs quartz %. There's granite that you can dig through with your fingernails FFS. If you think those people sanded rocks until they fit together instead of cutting rocks then putting them back together you may also believe people cut funny shapes into cardboard then sand other pieces of cardboard until they fit perfectly...eventually they end up with the whole 1000 piece puzzle.
Cutting stone is very easy. Lifting huge stones can be done with lever action by a single individual. How on earth did I do this? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464920/IMG_20160823_170031625-777652.jpg ETA you used this primitive tool  
ETA2 show me one like that you made by beating on it with another rock. |
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
Kind of off topic but still relevant to this thread. Yesterday I was watching the history channel and I found out Abraham Lincoln was a slave, Racist, lazy , a liar, and homosexual. |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover: I don't know what they could have used to "cut" these rocks into various shapes given they had only stone tools. |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover: I don't know what they could have used to "cut" these rocks into various shapes given they had only stone tools. ETA you used this primitive tool https://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server4200/rx1qnc/products/10232/images/30041/K970_2__40594.1432842672.451.416.jpg?c=2
ETA2 show me one like that you made by beating on it with another rock. I could surely use another rock to do this, but I have chisels. That's like me asking you to show me how you got a gallon of milk in only a three days ride by horseback. They sure as shit had more than rocks to clack together. |
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Originally Posted By headstoner:
Then you should know that granite has wildly varying degrees of hardness, due to the feldspar vs quartz %. There's granite that you can dig through with your fingernails FFS. If you think those people sanded rocks until they fit together instead of cutting rocks then putting them back together you may also believe people cut funny shapes into cardboard then sand other pieces of cardboard until they fit perfectly...eventually they end up with the whole 1000 piece puzzle.
Cutting stone is very easy. Lifting huge stones can be done with lever action by a single individual. How on earth did I do this? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464920/IMG_20160823_170031625-777652.jpg Originally Posted By headstoner:
Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
Having been stone mason for a number of years, I do know a little something about stone work. There are not to many rocks harder than granite that could be used to "beat" a granite bolder into shape. I am just pointing out that to make something like the below stone using just stone tools is nothing short of miraculous. With its inside corners with right angle edges and bottom cutouts/notches. https://enigmachannel.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/640px-puma_punku12.jpg?w=768 If you think those people sanded rocks until they fit together instead of cutting rocks then putting them back together you may also believe people cut funny shapes into cardboard then sand other pieces of cardboard until they fit perfectly...eventually they end up with the whole 1000 piece puzzle.
Cutting stone is very easy. Lifting huge stones can be done with lever action by a single individual. How on earth did I do this? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464920/IMG_20160823_170031625-777652.jpg There were a lot of pounding stone found in the Andesite quarries, but always wondered how the details and cutting through was accomplished. I'm sure there masonry trucks, but I have no idea what they are. What are your thoughts? |
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Originally Posted By Alacrity:
The stone at PumaPunku is Andesite (which I was told was relatively hard, but not extremely so) and sandstone - not so much. Most of the detailed "windows" and "monuments" are in the Andesite - but nowhere I've seen any explanation how it was done. I always assumed some kind of abrasion, kinda like the way Egyptians made holes. There were a lot of pounding stone found in the Andesite quarries, but always wondered how the details and cutting through was accomplished. I'm sure there masonry trucks, but I have no idea what they are. What are your thoughts? |
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Originally Posted By turbo_infidel:
This... The Sumerian creation epic is a trip... and answers a couple of interesting thing's I've always wondered. Why is our society based around Gold? Just because its shiny? Or maybe because we were created to mine it, as it was the most valuable thing to the gods? Humans are completely incompatible with the earth, we need to age 10+ years before we can do anything, need to literally wear animals to endure the cold, wear animals on our feet... etc.. Nibiru is coming Originally Posted By turbo_infidel:
Originally Posted By motown_steve:
The Anunnaki. Why is our society based around Gold? Just because its shiny? Or maybe because we were created to mine it, as it was the most valuable thing to the gods? Humans are completely incompatible with the earth, we need to age 10+ years before we can do anything, need to literally wear animals to endure the cold, wear animals on our feet... etc.. Nibiru is coming |
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