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And many more of them and bigger than I was aware! |
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There's a couple others like that. In the Med around Italy/Sicily. One was found when they got a construction permit and broke through to see that whole giant ant farm under the city, forgot what that one was, might have been Turkey but there was one where I wondered how they kept the ocean out as it was quite near the shore and deep down several levels but dry. |
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| I just watched that too. I had heard him mention it before I think it was on the Joe Rogan podcast. It's amazing how big it is. I can't imagine the what it would actually be like with tens of thousands of people living in them. |
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I’ve found this topic fascinating. I had no idea these underground structures existed until a couple of years ago. So many questions, so little answers. Who built them and why? Was it to hide from invading armies? Or did they have knowledge of a recurring cataclysmic event? How long did it take to build it? Thanks for the video OP. I knew not all of it was open to the public. But how much of it isn’t I didn’t know until I saw the video. |
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI: I’ve found this topic fascinating. I had no idea these underground structures existed until a couple of years ago. So many questions, so little answers. Who built them and why? Was it to hide from invading armies? Or did they have knowledge of a recurring cataclysmic event? How long did it take to build it? Thanks for the video OP. I knew not all of it was open to the public. But how much of it isn’t I didn’t know until I saw the video. Like you I didn't know about these either until the topic for whatever reason hit my radar a couple of years ago. I guess we will never really know just how old these actually are or who/ how many different civilizations or even species have used them for probably many various reasons. Are the thousands, 10s of thousands, even 100s of thousands of years old? There is no way of knowing with our current technology and it seems very strange nothing is left behind for dating or has more likely been removed to keep the public from ever finding out. |
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There are also caves found in japan. Makes you wonder what they were hiding from. Definitely not from a flood. Maybe similar things as "ragnarok", or what randall carlson and graham hancock are saying ancient stone monuments and mounds are pointing to: cataclysmic celestial events. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derinkuyu_underground_city History
Caves might have been built initially in the soft volcanic rock of the Cappadocia region by the Phrygians in the 8th-7th century BC.[6] When the Greek language replaced the Phrygian language there in Roman times,[7] the inhabitants expanded their caverns to deep multiple-level structures adding the chapels and Greek inscriptions.  [c]The city at Derinkuyu was fully formed in the Byzantine era, when it was heavily used as protection from Arab Muslims during the Arab–Byzantine wars (780–1180 AD). [9][d] The city was connected with another underground city, Kaymakli, through 8–9 km (5.0–5.6 mi) of tunnels.[10] Some artifacts discovered in these underground settlements belong to the Middle Byzantine Period, between the 5th and the 10th centuries.[citation needed]These cities continued to be used by the Christian natives as protection from the Mongolian incursions of Timur in the 14th century.[11][e][12][f] After the region fell to the Ottomans, the natives used cities as refuges (Cappadocian Greek: καταφύγια) from the Turkish Muslim rulers.[12](p 16)[g] In the 20th century, the underground cities were still used by Cappadocian Greeks and Armenians to escape periodic persecutions.[ |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrygians The Phrygians (Greek: Φρύγες, Phruges or Phryges) were an ancient Indo-European speaking people who inhabited central-western Anatolia (modern-day Turkey) in antiquity.
Ancient Greek authors used "Phrygian" as an umbrella term to describe a vast ethno-cultural complex located mainly in the central areas of Anatolia rather than a name of a single "tribe" or "people", and its ethno-linguistic homogeneity is debatable. |
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Originally Posted By M1A4ME: The humans hiding from the lizard people. This is my take. Lizard people or something else they feared. |
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| Every time I see stories like this I think of the book where there is a huge underground network of caves and tunnels with people totally unknown to the surface dwellers. No light. |
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People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.
People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Every time I see stories like this I think of the book where there is a huge underground network of caves and tunnels with people totally unknown to the surface dwellers. No light. Remember that old B&W 50's scifi flick, The Mole People? Pepperidge Farm remembers... |
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster: Remember that old B&W 50's scifi flick, The Mole People? Pepperidge Farm remembers... Originally Posted By Master_Blaster: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Every time I see stories like this I think of the book where there is a huge underground network of caves and tunnels with people totally unknown to the surface dwellers. No light. Remember that old B&W 50's scifi flick, The Mole People? Pepperidge Farm remembers... I've heard reference to it my whole life but have never seen it. The book I am thinkin of is The Descent. A friend loaned it to me and I thought it was pretty good. Attached File |
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Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.
People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.
People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
| I think a lot of history in that area is unknown to the majority of Westerners. We tend to see history through Western eyes and not through the eyes of the locals. They probably went through a lot we are ignorant about. We are fascinated by the tunnels and caves but the locals probably have always known about them. |
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Originally Posted By dntama: I think a lot of history in that area is unknown to the majority of Westerners. We tend to see history through Western eyes and not through the eyes of the locals. They probably went through a lot we are ignorant about. We are fascinated by the tunnels and caves but the locals probably have always known about them. One of the Youtube mega structures guys covered these and they didn't have an oral history or written history to them, they're a mystery, they have some "anecdotes" thought false but these were potentially linked with those but a lot of stuff doesn't match. I think there's more than the one sight and I didn't think it was in Turkey, the one I recall the mini documentary from a youtuber was on a Mediterranean island. |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By dntama: I think a lot of history in that area is unknown to the majority of Westerners. We tend to see history through Western eyes and not through the eyes of the locals. They probably went through a lot we are ignorant about. We are fascinated by the tunnels and caves but the locals probably have always known about them. I think that was probably true to a large extent but the amount of death and destruction in that area erased a lot of knowledge that will never return. It's really a shame. That area of the world could have told us so much more. |
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Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.
People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.
People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
| I would have liked to spend more time in College learning about Eastern Civ. At the time I was only required to to take a few History courses as I was a Science major so I just took Western Civilization courses. I didn’t even know who Timur was or about Samarkand until just recently. |
I really have to wonder about the other 9 stories or so below that are blocked off. Do artifacts still remain down there or have they all been cleaned out as well? They are the only way to determine age currently. The few that were left in the areas open to the public have been removed and dated but they could have been from any number of civilizations that may have used these tunnels. The things we will likely never really know. This video is strange and creepy but makes you wonder especially when you consider the hollow earth theory. After seeing several videos about the expedition back in the 40's where a Colonel along with others flew there C-47s into the opening in the south pole (that is now a no fly zone!) along with the fact there is a similar no fly zone at the north pole along with a more modern time when a pilot rescuing someone in need of emergency care from one of the stations down there and broke orders by taking a short cut over that opening and got into a world of trouble after landing you really have to wonder. We really know nothing about what the earths core really is. Same with our moon which absolutely should not and cannot exist with our physics models. It is impossible. Garth from Inner Earth speaks about coming changes. |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I just watched that too. I had heard him mention it before I think it was on the Joe Rogan podcast. It's amazing how big it is. I can't imagine the what it would actually be like with tens of thousands of people living in them. Smelly. |
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I've heard about this place in the past. Skip forward 3-4 minutes to get past his sponsor commercial. Navy Officer Breaks Silence on What's BURIED Under Missouri |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I've heard reference to it my whole life but have never seen it. The book I am thinkin of is The Descent. A friend loaned it to me and I thought it was pretty good. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129950/The_Descent_jpg-3675635.JPG Just started it because of this thread. Reminds me of Lovecraft so far. Thanks! |
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I'll just leave this here: The Ancient Doomsday Bunkers Built To Survive an Apocalypse: 5 Structures We Can't Explain Talks about Derinkuyu, among other cool stuff. All the Dark5 channels are a fun watch. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: I'll just leave this here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FQh89QxDYoTalks about Derinkuyu, among other cool stuff. All the Dark5 channels are a fun watch. This is pretty mind blowing, from the last seciton of that video, the Long You Cave.  Look how the "scoops" from the ceiling just makes 2 right angle turns to angle down the pillar with he same scoope and minior striation patterns uninterrupted and others just go where needed without a stop/start mark, just changing direction. I guess this is perspective. I thought I was pretty cool for being able to solve a Rubik's cube in 20-45 seconds back in the 80s. It would be like a kkjoke jump cut video below, nobody would believe a cube could be solved in 0.1 seconds as it'd melt from all the friction or something. Makes us looking back now insane when we can barely believe what we thought was fast or possible in the 80s has been blown away, things we can' even imagine could have flashed these underground structures in a similar flash that's uncomprehendable by us today. This one solves it in literally a flash of light while a high speed camera verifies the machine actually solved it, hence the huge amount needed for the extremely short exposure time for each frame on the high speed camera at thousands/hundreds of thousands frames/second.
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FQh89QxDYoTalks about Derinkuyu, among other cool stuff. All the Dark5 channels are a fun watch. I've seen this one. I just can't handle the narration on that channel or other channels that use the same. |
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Originally Posted By brass: This is pretty mind blowing, from the last seciton of that video, the Long You Cave. https://i.imgur.com/4MbFR21.png Look how the "scoops" from the ceiling just makes 2 right angle turns to angle down the pillar with he same scoope and minior striation patterns uninterrupted and others just go where needed without a stop/start mark, just changing direction. I guess this is perspective. I thought I was pretty cool for being able to solve a Rubik's cube in 20-45 seconds back in the 80s. It would be like a kkjoke jump cut video below, nobody would believe a cube could be solved in 0.1 seconds as it'd melt from all the friction or something. Makes us looking back now insane when we can barely believe what we thought was fast or possible in the 80s has been blown away, things we can' even imagine could have flashed these underground structures in a similar flash that's uncomprehendable by us today. This one solves it in literally a flash of light while a high speed camera verifies the machine actually solved it, hence the huge amount needed for the extremely short exposure time for each frame on the high speed camera at thousands/hundreds of thousands frames/second.
Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Kagetora: I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FQh89QxDYoTalks about Derinkuyu, among other cool stuff. All the Dark5 channels are a fun watch. This is pretty mind blowing, from the last seciton of that video, the Long You Cave. https://i.imgur.com/4MbFR21.png Look how the "scoops" from the ceiling just makes 2 right angle turns to angle down the pillar with he same scoope and minior striation patterns uninterrupted and others just go where needed without a stop/start mark, just changing direction. I guess this is perspective. I thought I was pretty cool for being able to solve a Rubik's cube in 20-45 seconds back in the 80s. It would be like a kkjoke jump cut video below, nobody would believe a cube could be solved in 0.1 seconds as it'd melt from all the friction or something. Makes us looking back now insane when we can barely believe what we thought was fast or possible in the 80s has been blown away, things we can' even imagine could have flashed these underground structures in a similar flash that's uncomprehendable by us today. This one solves it in literally a flash of light while a high speed camera verifies the machine actually solved it, hence the huge amount needed for the extremely short exposure time for each frame on the high speed camera at thousands/hundreds of thousands frames/second.
Saw yesterday where Japan is claiming to now have AGI. If so get ready!
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Originally Posted By brass: This is pretty mind blowing, from the last seciton of that video, the Long You Cave. https://i.imgur.com/4MbFR21.png Look how the "scoops" from the ceiling just makes 2 right angle turns to angle down the pillar with he same scoope and minior striation patterns uninterrupted and others just go where needed without a stop/start mark, just changing direction. I guess this is perspective. I thought I was pretty cool for being able to solve a Rubik's cube in 20-45 seconds back in the 80s. It would be like a kkjoke jump cut video below, nobody would believe a cube could be solved in 0.1 seconds as it'd melt from all the friction or something. Makes us looking back now insane when we can barely believe what we thought was fast or possible in the 80s has been blown away, things we can' even imagine could have flashed these underground structures in a similar flash that's uncomprehendable by us today. This one solves it in literally a flash of light while a high speed camera verifies the machine actually solved it, hence the huge amount needed for the extremely short exposure time for each frame on the high speed camera at thousands/hundreds of thousands frames/second.
Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Kagetora: I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FQh89QxDYoTalks about Derinkuyu, among other cool stuff. All the Dark5 channels are a fun watch. This is pretty mind blowing, from the last seciton of that video, the Long You Cave. https://i.imgur.com/4MbFR21.png Look how the "scoops" from the ceiling just makes 2 right angle turns to angle down the pillar with he same scoope and minior striation patterns uninterrupted and others just go where needed without a stop/start mark, just changing direction. I guess this is perspective. I thought I was pretty cool for being able to solve a Rubik's cube in 20-45 seconds back in the 80s. It would be like a kkjoke jump cut video below, nobody would believe a cube could be solved in 0.1 seconds as it'd melt from all the friction or something. Makes us looking back now insane when we can barely believe what we thought was fast or possible in the 80s has been blown away, things we can' even imagine could have flashed these underground structures in a similar flash that's uncomprehendable by us today. This one solves it in literally a flash of light while a high speed camera verifies the machine actually solved it, hence the huge amount needed for the extremely short exposure time for each frame on the high speed camera at thousands/hundreds of thousands frames/second.
I just want to see someone recreate that effect by hand with a flint chisel. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Ah yes, the scoop marks with striations so obviously caused by dudes with chisels and certainly not from a rotating mechanical cutting tool. Somehow the tools and thousands of tons of spoils just vanished and there are no records related to the project, but it was definitely dudes with chisels. I just want to see someone recreate that effect by hand with a flint chisel.  Pre-Historic Mega Structures of Japan & Unexcavated Giant Tombs |
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Originally Posted By WorkDroid: Same thing found in japan. Starts about the 8min mark. Whole video is fascinating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kknPtZsfhVgOriginally Posted By WorkDroid: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Ah yes, the scoop marks with striations so obviously caused by dudes with chisels and certainly not from a rotating mechanical cutting tool. Somehow the tools and thousands of tons of spoils just vanished and there are no records related to the project, but it was definitely dudes with chisels. I just want to see someone recreate that effect by hand with a flint chisel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kknPtZsfhVgAnother pet peeve of mine. Why do they declare these large works to be tombs when there's no writing and no body found? Applies to Giza pyramids as well. "Well, we don't know what it is, so it is obviously a tomb..." |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: Another pet peeve of mine. Why do they declare these large works to be tombs when there's no writing and no body found? Applies to Giza pyramids as well. "Well, we don't know what it is, so it is obviously a tomb..." Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By WorkDroid: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Ah yes, the scoop marks with striations so obviously caused by dudes with chisels and certainly not from a rotating mechanical cutting tool. Somehow the tools and thousands of tons of spoils just vanished and there are no records related to the project, but it was definitely dudes with chisels. I just want to see someone recreate that effect by hand with a flint chisel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kknPtZsfhVgAnother pet peeve of mine. Why do they declare these large works to be tombs when there's no writing and no body found? Applies to Giza pyramids as well. "Well, we don't know what it is, so it is obviously a tomb..." Imagine archaeologists 100,000 years from now when manual labor is no longer a thing finding a chest full of Snap-On tools. "Ah yes, clearly these items were for ceremonial purposes. You can tell by the decorative outer surface and how dearly they were kept protected within this locked chamber. The wheels on the bottom were so the priest could move his ceremonial talismans from place to place while sharing the sacred myths with the locals." |
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The giant caves that I believe are in China that were flooded and they pumped all the water out of are absolutely beautiful. They may or may not be in one of those videos I haven't had time to watch yet because of life and Christmas stuff happening here at home currently. And the scrap marks are just mind blowing at how this was accomplished 1,000s of years ago. No telling how many 1,000s of years ago. Science has to come up with a way of determining this stuff besides carbon dating.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Just like "ceremonial" being the blanket definition for "anything we find that we don't understand". Imagine archaeologists 100,000 years from now when manual labor is no longer a thing finding a chest full of Snap-On tools. "Ah yes, clearly these items were for ceremonial purposes. You can tell by the decorative outer surface and how dearly they were kept protected within this locked chamber. The wheels on the bottom were so the priest could move his ceremonial talismans from place to place while sharing the sacred myths with the locals." There's a whole write-up from decades ago that we read in archaeology classes in college, about the dangers of that very thing. It goes on and on about the ceremonial nature of the water well found in the dwelling, how central and important it and the room it was in must have been, what religious purposes it may have served, and at the end you finally realize the "far-future archaeologist" author is describing a toilet. It's a very real phenomenon, just slapping the same label on stuff you don't understand so you can get your paper published. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: There's a whole write-up from decades ago that we read in archaeology classes in college, about the dangers of that very thing. It goes on and on about the ceremonial nature of the water well found in the dwelling, how central and important it and the room it was in must have been, what religious purposes it may have served, and at the end you finally realize the "far-future archaeologist" author is describing a toilet. It's a very real phenomenon, just slapping the same label on stuff you don't understand so you can get your paper published. Originally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Just like "ceremonial" being the blanket definition for "anything we find that we don't understand". Imagine archaeologists 100,000 years from now when manual labor is no longer a thing finding a chest full of Snap-On tools. "Ah yes, clearly these items were for ceremonial purposes. You can tell by the decorative outer surface and how dearly they were kept protected within this locked chamber. The wheels on the bottom were so the priest could move his ceremonial talismans from place to place while sharing the sacred myths with the locals." There's a whole write-up from decades ago that we read in archaeology classes in college, about the dangers of that very thing. It goes on and on about the ceremonial nature of the water well found in the dwelling, how central and important it and the room it was in must have been, what religious purposes it may have served, and at the end you finally realize the "far-future archaeologist" author is describing a toilet. It's a very real phenomenon, just slapping the same label on stuff you don't understand so you can get your paper published. |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Saw yesterday where Japan is claiming to now have AGI. If so get ready! Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Kagetora: I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FQh89QxDYoTalks about Derinkuyu, among other cool stuff. All the Dark5 channels are a fun watch. This is pretty mind blowing, from the last seciton of that video, the Long You Cave. https://i.imgur.com/4MbFR21.png Look how the "scoops" from the ceiling just makes 2 right angle turns to angle down the pillar with he same scoope and minior striation patterns uninterrupted and others just go where needed without a stop/start mark, just changing direction. I guess this is perspective. I thought I was pretty cool for being able to solve a Rubik's cube in 20-45 seconds back in the 80s. It would be like a kkjoke jump cut video below, nobody would believe a cube could be solved in 0.1 seconds as it'd melt from all the friction or something. Makes us looking back now insane when we can barely believe what we thought was fast or possible in the 80s has been blown away, things we can' even imagine could have flashed these underground structures in a similar flash that's uncomprehendable by us today. This one solves it in literally a flash of light while a high speed camera verifies the machine actually solved it, hence the huge amount needed for the extremely short exposure time for each frame on the high speed camera at thousands/hundreds of thousands frames/second.
Saw yesterday where Japan is claiming to now have AGI. If so get ready! If even a small fraction of what we're hearing about is true, this is going to be a very interesting time to be alive... quite possibly the most interesting in history. |
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