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Posted: 8/25/2024 7:41:26 PM EDT
Seem to fall off the face of the earth towards the end if the nineties? Of course, it's still there, and there are still new great bands making music, but you won't hear it on mainstream radio anymore. It's all "pop cuntry" and hip-hop sounding garbage. WTF happened? They said it would never die, but, for all intents and purposes, it did.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 7:45:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: zach_]
[#1]
Originally Posted By Bronsonburner: Seem to fall off the face of the earth towards the end if the nineties? Of course, it's still there, and there are still new great bands making music, but you won't hear it on mainstream radio anymore. It's all "pop cuntry" and hip-hop sounding garbage. WTF happened? They said it would never die, but, for all intents and purposes, it did. 92.5 KZPS might be available on internet radio. They are not perfect, but they are the best radio station around here. Music Choice on Spectrum has several good rock channels. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 7:48:13 PM EDT
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Guitar hard, synth noise and beatz easy.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 7:50:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alembic: Guitar hard, synth noise and beatz easy. Probably so. Occam's Razor and all...
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Posted: 8/25/2024 7:53:23 PM EDT
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I thought it was just me.
I joined the Navy and was stationed overseas for seven years doing Japan, Diego Garcia, and Australia before returning and rock-n-roll was “gone”. I just started listening to conservative talk radio and never went back to listening to music on the radio. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 7:55:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Rock never went away, but like all things, it rolls in phases.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 7:57:00 PM EDT
[#6]
Check out Rick Beato on YouTube.
He has many videos discussing this very issue. Thank Clearchannel and their ilk. Corporate has ruined main stream music. 92.5 KZPS? Ugh. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 7:58:40 PM EDT
[#7]
iHeartMedia/Clear Channel happened, they've killed most of the good radio programing in the US
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 7:58:42 PM EDT
[#8]
What are some good rock bands these days? I prefer something that isn't unintelligible screaming.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 7:59:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: Rock never went away, but like all things, it rolls in phases. Well, it was king from the early sixties through the late nineties then "poof". It wasn't anymore. And still isn't. I don't remember any of those phases you speak of. Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way. IDK. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:00:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Windustsearch]
[#10]
Because people feel more comfortable with their welfare rat soundtrack.
Choose your hoodie, Hip Hop/R&B, Farm Emo, or n00-Metal |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:01:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ManiacRat]
[#11]
Kids don't listen to it. I'm in my mid 40s and a lot of people my age don't listen to it either. Hip hop/R&B became the go to along with top 40.
The more obscure the genre the less common it becomes. I was raised listening to it and do, my older sister does not. My younger sister does. My kids friends parents, who are younger than me by a bit, all listen to hickhop, hip hop and R&B. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:02:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hooligan223: What are some good rock bands these days? I prefer something that isn't unintelligible screaming. ^^^^ |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:04:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ManiacRat: Kids don't listen to it. I'm in my mid 40s and a lot of people my age don't listen to it either. Hip hop/R&B became the go to along with top 40. The more obscure the genre the less common it becomes. I was raised listening to it and do, my older sister does not. My younger sister does. My kids friends parents, who are younger than me by a bit, all listen to hickhop, hip hop and R&B. Why is that? I'm genuinely curious to know the factors that caused that shift in tastes. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:04:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HDLS]
[#14]
“Mainstream” radio became mostly irrelevant. Theres a lot of other places to listen to whatever it is you want to listen to.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:07:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: “Mainstream” radio became mostly irrelevant. Theres a lot of other places to listen to whatever it is you want to listen to. I still listen to it in the car. When I even listen to anything, which isn't all that often anymore. When I do, it ends up on a "classic rock" or maybe 80s station. Nothing good on the top 40 stations. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:10:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOGVET: Check out Rick Beato on YouTube. He has many videos discussing this very issue. Thank Clearchannel and their ilk. Corporate has ruined main stream music. 92.5 KZPS? Ugh. I don't need to hear him pontificating on streaming/Clear Channel/etc. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:12:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: “Mainstream” radio became mostly irrelevant. Theres a lot of other places to listen to whatever it is you want to listen to. There was an interesting thread here a while ago about the consolidation of radio. If I remember right most fm are owned by a few companies, and they mandate what gets played. So only the chosen few get the exposure from what used to be an actual DJ finding gems and putting them on the airwaves. Interestingly enough, Detroit has only 1 rap station, and 4 country stations. 20 years ago it was the opposite. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:14:31 PM EDT
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It went away in the late 60's.
After that, it was all pop music in one form or another but very little true "rock n roll". |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:15:19 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0311SKI: There was an interesting thread here a while ago about the consolidation of radio. If I remember right most fm are owned by a few companies, and they mandate what gets played. So only the chosen few get the exposure from what used to be an actual DJ finding gems and putting them on the airwaves. Interestingly enough, Detroit has only 1 rap station, and 4 country stations. 20 years ago it was the opposite. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0311SKI: Originally Posted By HDLS: “Mainstream” radio became mostly irrelevant. Theres a lot of other places to listen to whatever it is you want to listen to. There was an interesting thread here a while ago about the consolidation of radio. If I remember right most fm are owned by a few companies, and they mandate what gets played. So only the chosen few get the exposure from what used to be an actual DJ finding gems and putting them on the airwaves. Interestingly enough, Detroit has only 1 rap station, and 4 country stations. 20 years ago it was the opposite. Yeah but most modern "country" seems have a healthy dose of hip-hop influence added. It's like hip-hop (cRap) took over everything. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:15:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ManiacRat: Kids don't listen to it. I'm in my mid 40s and a lot of people my age don't listen to it either. Hip hop/R&B became the go to along with top 40. The more obscure the genre the less common it becomes. I was raised listening to it and do, my older sister does not. My younger sister does. My kids friends parents, who are younger than me by a bit, all listen to hickhop, hip hop and R&B. Places like School of Rock wouldn't exist if they didn't. A couple of weeks ago I sat behind the mixing board for an entire day of kids playing rock music. Some of them were really good, too. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:16:17 PM EDT
[#21]
The only thing constant is change.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:17:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thawntex: Yes they do. Kids also sing and play guitar, drums, bass, and keyboards. Places like School of Rock wouldn't exist if they didn't. A couple of weeks ago I sat behind the mixing board for an entire day of kids playing rock music. Some of them were really good, too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thawntex: Originally Posted By ManiacRat: Kids don't listen to it. I'm in my mid 40s and a lot of people my age don't listen to it either. Hip hop/R&B became the go to along with top 40. The more obscure the genre the less common it becomes. I was raised listening to it and do, my older sister does not. My younger sister does. My kids friends parents, who are younger than me by a bit, all listen to hickhop, hip hop and R&B. Places like School of Rock wouldn't exist if they didn't. A couple of weeks ago I sat behind the mixing board for an entire day of kids playing rock music. Some of them were really good, too. That's good. My kids (teen daughters) cover their ears when they hear a distorted electric guitar.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:17:20 PM EDT
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I heard someone explain this on a podcast recently.
By the 90s all possible variations were played out. Nothing more to be done. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:20:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: I heard someone explain this on a podcast recently. By the 90s all possible variations were played out. Nothing more to be done. Interesting. I guess that means there may be hope that it WILL "come back around" someday when people "forget". What's old is new kinda thing. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:20:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bronsonburner: Yeah but most modern "country" seems have a healthy dose of hip-hop influence added. It's like hip-hop (cRap) took over everything. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bronsonburner: Originally Posted By 0311SKI: Originally Posted By HDLS: “Mainstream” radio became mostly irrelevant. Theres a lot of other places to listen to whatever it is you want to listen to. There was an interesting thread here a while ago about the consolidation of radio. If I remember right most fm are owned by a few companies, and they mandate what gets played. So only the chosen few get the exposure from what used to be an actual DJ finding gems and putting them on the airwaves. Interestingly enough, Detroit has only 1 rap station, and 4 country stations. 20 years ago it was the opposite. Yeah but most modern "country" seems have a healthy dose of hip-hop influence added. It's like hip-hop (cRap) took over everything. Both genres follow the same formula as pop. Simple, catchy tunes that go on for 3 minutes. One thing I like about Beato is his song breakdowns. Majority of the top 10 share the same exact chords, or drum beats. That being said, I've found great country, rock, and rap songs on spotify and YouTube, but there's no chance in hell they'd ever find their was onto radio. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:24:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ManiacRat]
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Originally Posted By Bronsonburner: Why is that? I'm genuinely curious to know the factors that caused that shift in tastes. Originally Posted By thawntex: Yes they do. Kids also sing and play guitar, drums, bass, and keyboards. Places like School of Rock wouldn't exist if they didn't. A couple of weeks ago I sat behind the mixing board for an entire day of kids playing rock music. Some of them were really good, too. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:25:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DMG-LDS]
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We went to the Journey / Def Leppard show in PHX on friday night.
50,000+ people there. The older rock acts are still filling arenas and stadiums. I heard once that they dont want rock music to be main stream, as it promotes rebellious attiutudes no idea if thats true |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:28:49 PM EDT
[#28]
OP if you get on YouTube it's the best place to find newer bands. They exist but just don't get airplay. Ghost is a good one. I like them a lot. But it'll start you down a rabbit hole.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:32:17 PM EDT
[#29]
Modern studio & recording electronics have made it easier to manufacture trash music without the benefit of talent. One used to have to be proficient at playing an instrument or carrying a vocal tune.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:33:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_: 92.5 KZPS might be available on internet radio. They are not perfect, but they are the best radio station around here. Music Choice on Spectrum has several good rock channels. I loved Z-Rock back in the 90’s. The guy that was the program director in the beginning left when they were bought out by ABC and started his own music streaming channel. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:33:49 PM EDT
[#31]
I still hear a lot of "classic rock" and metal on construction sites... Makes me glad I don't work in construction.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:33:59 PM EDT
[#32]
autotune sucks, beat machines suck, sampling sucks, overproduced music sucks
I listen to a lot of 90s alt rock, amongst other things made with real instruments. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:37:28 PM EDT
[#33]
Am I crazy to have a hunch that the "woke" agenda (or at least the beginnings of it) might have had a bit to do with it? Rock music wasn't "diverse enough"? I'm probably nuts, but it would make perfect sense.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:39:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bronsonburner: Am I crazy to have a hunch that the "woke" agenda (or at least the beginnings of it) might have had a bit to do with it? Rock music wasn't "diverse enough"? I'm probably nuts, but it would make perfect sense. Hard to say there. Organizing a massive conspiracy isn't an easy thing. But it seems like all the time I've been alive I've heard people screaming about how Elvis stole the black mans music. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:39:57 PM EDT
[#35]
My guess is cost. Wife listens to country which sounds too much like hip hop for my taste. From what I understand much of the recording for virtually everything is in Nashville now and to cut costs it sounds like they’re just using background music that’s computer generated, set to some auto tuned vocals and put on the radio. It sounds flat and it honestly just sounds thrown out there compared to music someone sat down and developed on their own.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:44:09 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Hard to say there. Organizing a massive conspiracy isn't an easy thing. But it seems like all the time I've been alive I've heard people screaming about how Elvis stole the black mans music. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By Bronsonburner: Am I crazy to have a hunch that the "woke" agenda (or at least the beginnings of it) might have had a bit to do with it? Rock music wasn't "diverse enough"? I'm probably nuts, but it would make perfect sense. Hard to say there. Organizing a massive conspiracy isn't an easy thing. But it seems like all the time I've been alive I've heard people screaming about how Elvis stole the black mans music. I hear ya. Rock's roots were black blues musicians. Not that it matters to them. By the nineties it was 99.9% white people music, and they can't have that. I guess. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:45:17 PM EDT
[#37]
There's still plenty of rock and roll music being made.
Might not be on the radio like before, but it's still there. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:46:31 PM EDT
[#38]
Because people settled for mediocrity, and the music biz responded.
I blame public schools, bad parenting, and the rise of the smart phone. And rap and hip hop. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:46:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bronsonburner]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DoctorCAD: There's still plenty of rock and roll music being made. Might not be on the radio like before, but it's still there. I know. I'm just interested in knowing WHY it isn't on the radio anymore. ETA I know I'm not alone. I mean, we were rocking along pretty good in the mid to late nineties then POOF it was gone and Britney Spears and her hip hop inspired pop crap was everywhere, along with all her imitators. It's as though rock just fell off the planet around then. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:50:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bronsonburner: Why is that? I'm genuinely curious to know the factors that caused that shift in tastes. It was forced into the culture by every form of media for over 20 years. MTV was one of the main culprits in bringing it mainstream to young impressionable kids. It normalizes bad behavior, gov dependence, fractured family, no personal responsibility for actions, which is a big cornerstone of Leftist control. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:52:34 PM EDT
[#41]
 Attached FileQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bronsonburner: I hear ya. Rock's roots were black blues musicians. Not that it matters to them. By the nineties it was 99.9% white people music, and they can't have that. I guess. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bronsonburner: Originally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By Bronsonburner: Am I crazy to have a hunch that the "woke" agenda (or at least the beginnings of it) might have had a bit to do with it? Rock music wasn't "diverse enough"? I'm probably nuts, but it would make perfect sense. Hard to say there. Organizing a massive conspiracy isn't an easy thing. But it seems like all the time I've been alive I've heard people screaming about how Elvis stole the black mans music. I hear ya. Rock's roots were black blues musicians. Not that it matters to them. By the nineties it was 99.9% white people music, and they can't have that. I guess. Attached File |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:52:44 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: My guess is cost. Wife listens to country which sounds too much like hip hop for my taste. From what I understand much of the recording for virtually everything is in Nashville now and to cut costs it sounds like they’re just using background music that’s computer generated, set to some auto tuned vocals and put on the radio. It sounds flat and it honestly just sounds thrown out there compared to music someone sat down and developed on their own. Wow thats depressing. It sounds true, but depressing. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:56:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Robert_J]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: iHeartMedia/Clear Channel happened, they've killed most of the good radio programing in the US As other have said, YouTube and start with what you like. New stuff will get suggested. I get involved with my local rock scene but it's easy in New Orleans. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a musician in this town. I have 3 drummers in my neighborhood of 22 houses. I knew about this band and bought their digital CD and record on Bandcamp (buy on the first Friday of the month so the artists get 100% of the money). A few days later, the record showed as "shipping". About 3 hours later, my doorbell rings and it's the singer for the band. It was closer to drive to my house than to the post office. We talked for about 5 minutes on the porch. Turns out we have a dozen friends in common.  Drab 'Candyman' Official Video His blues band.  Steve Mignano - Lucky 13 (Official Music Video) More friends of mine.  Brown Water Blues Local prog metal  Stepping Sideways | The Tempest (Official Music Video) Just a band that YouTube suggested not long ago.  SWEET SPINE - 888 (Official Music Video) |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 9:04:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Solo_]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alembic: Guitar hard, synth noise and beatz easy. The are two reasons, mostly - one is that the guitar is truly hard. To play it (and record it) well, it's hard (as most instruments). Computers, keyboards, beats, quantizing, loops... way easier. So that is definitely one of the reasons - the other one probably consequential - people didn't choose Rock 'N Roll anymore to make it their rebel, rebellious, breaking the rules, changing the system genre of music. Rap came along for that - more easily, less work, a microphone and beats and your protest is represented. Rock 'N Roll - in short - isn't rebellious enough anymore. It may come back - everything comes back at some point. But it's just not now. Solo, of solodallas.com |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 9:05:37 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bronsonburner: Why is that? I'm genuinely curious to know the factors that caused that shift in tastes. Don McClean wrote a song about it. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 9:06:25 PM EDT
[#46]
I blame Kurt Cobain. Grunge absolutely killed Rock N Roll
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 9:09:41 PM EDT
[#47]
70's classic rock died with the arrival of Disco.
Disco led to Hip Hop and Rap. "Hair Metal" and Grunge tried to make it and did, but Hip Hop and Rap still won out, when it was all said and done. Today's music sucks a$$... I keep SiriusXM on "60's Gold" and "The Beatles Channel" on my truck's radio whenever I am behind the wheel. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 9:10:07 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Wow thats depressing. It sounds true, but depressing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64: My guess is cost. Wife listens to country which sounds too much like hip hop for my taste. From what I understand much of the recording for virtually everything is in Nashville now and to cut costs it sounds like they’re just using background music that’s computer generated, set to some auto tuned vocals and put on the radio. It sounds flat and it honestly just sounds thrown out there compared to music someone sat down and developed on their own. Wow thats depressing. It sounds true, but depressing. I agree. I grew up listening to the radio and virtually every week one or two songs came out that you knew would be classics one day. Mid to late eighties that slowed down to maybe one song a month and progressively got worse. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 9:15:44 PM EDT
[#49]
 Dirty Honey - Down The Road (Suitcase Sessions) Some good stuff still getting made, but yeah they ain't playing on the radio. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 9:16:13 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Wow thats depressing. It sounds true, but depressing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64: My guess is cost. Wife listens to country which sounds too much like hip hop for my taste. From what I understand much of the recording for virtually everything is in Nashville now and to cut costs it sounds like they're just using background music that's computer generated, set to some auto tuned vocals and put on the radio. It sounds flat and it honestly just sounds thrown out there compared to music someone sat down and developed on their own. Wow thats depressing. It sounds true, but depressing. There's some good music coming out of Oklahoma right now. Guys like Josh Meloy are making names for themselves. I do live sound in a 1,000 cap venue, and I'm occasionally surprised by some of these bands that seem to come out of nowhere. I'll go into work having no idea what I'm facing, and then be blown away by some band I hadn't heard of until that day. It's gets repeated a bazillion times on this forum, but never seems to sink in with some people. If you're tapping mainstream sources you're going to get processed, formulaic crap from Nashville. If you want something different and raw, something made by creative people who are passionate about their craft, you have to tune that shit out, get your boots on, and go out to a small venue. |
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