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Link Posted: 7/16/2024 3:19:48 PM EST
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the new team he had at the RNC convention looked a whole lot more like that then the melissa mccarthy version at the rally
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 3:30:45 PM EST
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SS woman just said the buck stops with her and that she is responsible.
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She gonna commit hari kari?  

Just a bunch of empty words.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 3:31:38 PM EST
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Resources. Secret Service has access to resources and intelligence collected by other agencies that a private security detail does not.

But I get where you're going with this, and I agree it has merit.
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Like that meant something during this assination attempt.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 4:13:50 PM EST
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His team last night looked completely different than on Saturday....I counted 12 in the video above

Link Posted: 7/16/2024 4:27:47 PM EST
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The Secret Service A team was diverted to Jill Biden's event, as confirmed by SS spokesman.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 4:29:47 PM EST
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I've worked with several Rangers, and an ex SF dude.  SF was indeed a hobbit, but the Rangers were  big motherfuckers.  It's not even just physical size.  Some guys actually know how to present themselves in a manner that exudes "don't mess with me".
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No shit, agreed.  Ever met a Navy SEAL?  I’ve met more than one.   Put them in a suit and they would look just like any other regular guy in a suit.   They aren’t all 6 foot 6  and jacked like some people seem to think.


I've worked with several Rangers, and an ex SF dude.  SF was indeed a hobbit, but the Rangers were  big motherfuckers.  It's not even just physical size.  Some guys actually know how to present themselves in a manner that exudes "don't mess with me".


I was a Ranger (2nd Batt), and at 5'5" was the tallest guy in my fire team... hence the nickname "Rex Nanorum", king of the midgets.

The next squad bay over was entirely dudes over 6'

YMMV
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 4:31:35 PM EST
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He's not the president yet and security usually gets ramped up once you're the nominee. Then combine that with the DEI boss and here we are.
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Trump needs to do rallies only where the roofs are flat for safety reasons.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 4:32:25 PM EST
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 When you have spent 10-20 years as a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
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I'd guess you weren't ever in a tier 1 or tier 2 unit.

If you spend 10 years hell 10 months in one, you quickly get the idea you aren't always a Hammer.

We trained for an extremely wide variety of missions, with heavy doses of ROE and nearly every mission (training and overseas) had many considerations for noncombatants, hostages, and non-US friendlies.

That's why we loved a straight "stand up and fight" mission... they're exceedingly rare and immensely enjoyable.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 4:34:46 PM EST
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And if they let their training over ride the complexity of social life and they shoot an innocent  but suspicious person without all the facts?
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Every bit of tier one and two training includes gaining certainty of threat before shooting.  This comment is dumb.  We aren't trained to shoot everything that moves, we're trained to shoot everything that is an imminent or current threat.  That doesn't include popping people who look a little shady.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 4:35:06 PM EST
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He went from 3 men and two woman to RNC 10 men and one woman behind a large posse of bodygaurds.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/16/12/87395325-13639211-Many_on_social_media_noticed_that_former_president_Donald_Trump_-m-13_1721129681492.jpg
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Fourth from rear kinda looks like Kevin Costner. Did he do a body guard movie.

Either way huge ass difference in detail. They look like they are daring someone to try something.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 4:35:11 PM EST
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It used to be that the guys who competed in the Best Ranger competition averaged 5’9” and 160 pounds.

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No shit, agreed.  Ever met a Navy SEAL?  I’ve met more than one.   Put them in a suit and they would look just like any other regular guy in a suit.   They aren’t all 6 foot 6  and jacked like some people seem to think.


It used to be that the guys who competed in the Best Ranger competition averaged 5’9” and 160 pounds.


I want them all to look like Jocko.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 5:02:10 PM EST
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She gonna commit hari kari?  

Just a bunch of empty words.
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SS woman just said the buck stops with her and that she is responsible.


She gonna commit hari kari?  

Just a bunch of empty words.


No, She is going to investigate herself to get to the bottom of it.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 7:18:24 PM EST
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Resources. Secret Service has access to resources and intelligence collected by other agencies that a private security detail does not.

But I get where you're going with this, and I agree it has merit.
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What?

The NNSA facility next to where I live is protected by civilian contractors. They have a SCIF, a few miniguns, frags... only thing they don't have is tasked aerial support.

It's been about pride. USSS doesn't want competition. It would be easier for them in every respect to just straphang a liaison to a giant trump-paid security detail; let them fail and shrug o well, we tried.

I bet money USSS pushed back hard on privates anywhere they had to be.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 7:21:43 PM EST
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Because retired team guys don't want that shit job

Most of the Raiders I know grew beards and started smoking pot after their separation

Last thing they wanna do is take a bullet for someone else
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I've said that a dozen times, and have been saying that for years.

No type A personality wants the hassle of private protection for long. It is nothing like the movies would have you believe. Literally carrying someone's wife's bags, staring at the halls and walls for hours, step and fetch it 24 hours a day... they would have to have love for their principal or just want that block checked in the resume
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 7:24:11 PM EST
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I have met some bad ass tough dudes. Served with men I trusted my life with. Most don’t look like a stereotypical body builder. Much of badassery is mental and thinking on your feet.
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