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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:34:37 AM EDT
I don't recall who posted this, but here's why:

"The G19 size/performance envelope is where a lot of lines cross for a lot of people.
- The same sight radius as a 4" K-frame.
- 16 shots/30 oz
- Excellent and controllable and deliverable accuracy across the entire pistol caliber range and down to .14 splits with basic technique.
- As close to perfectly reliable as a man-made machine can be, proven across decades, millions of users and hundreds of millions of rounds.
- The simplest and most trouble free design, detail stripped with an ink pen.
- Weatherproof.
- Tolerant of abuse, indifferent maintenance and poor to no lubrication.
- Rounded and smooth edges.
- An ecosystem of parts, accessories and holsters developed across 40 years.

From inception, Glock has pissed people off because of their "Perfection" marketing slogan, the very idea of a polymer frame ("They weren't first!" screeches HK), the not-a-1911 trigger, grip angle, plastic sights, LE sales ploys (ruthless, pseudo-ethical and brutally effective), lack of innovation and every other possible criticism that can be dreamed up by devotees of other brands - and still everything is trumpeted as "The Glock Killer".
It is The Standard to beat.

Smaller guns struggle to do what it can, and larger guns are simply larger.

Completely devoid of romance or cachet. A gun that makes no statement about its user.

A soulless killing machine."

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Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:36:30 AM EDT
[#1]
Glock 17 is better.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:38:40 AM EDT
[#2]
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Originally Posted By DerekL:
Glock 17 is better.
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Great pistol but less concealable
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:39:25 AM EDT
[#3]
Yes
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:39:52 AM EDT
[#4]
It's the Glock 45 for me.. My meat hooks don't fit G19 grips very well.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:40:33 AM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By CloseAir:
It's the Glock 45 for me.. My meat hooks don't fit G19 grips very well.
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I'll accept it. Shoot I'll accept the g17 also
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:40:44 AM EDT
[#6]
43v/48 with 15 rd mags more betterer.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:41:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M4-AK] [#7]
For me, the 19 is the better concealer, but the 45/19x is a better rapid shooter.

The 19 with an extended mag is close.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:41:24 AM EDT
[#8]
Here we go
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:41:42 AM EDT
[#9]
I subjectively don’t like Glocks.

Objectively, the G19 is as close to the ideal handgun you can get.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:42:51 AM EDT
[#10]
VP9 says, “How ya ‘doin?”
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:43:00 AM EDT
[#11]
You spelled HK VP9 wrong, Sir.

My 1st Glock was a G19. The VP9 is better. Anyone who can't see that is no better than a Fudd clinging to his .30-30.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:43:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 45-Seventy:
I subjectively don't like Glocks.

Objectively, the G19 is as close to the ideal handgun you can get.
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At the end of the day, software > hardware.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:44:32 AM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:45:49 AM EDT
[#14]
Shoot able but concealable, good capacity with options for higher, accurate, dead reliable, durable, easy to use, easy to clean. Love the G19.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:46:12 AM EDT
[#15]




I’m invested in M&Ps for full-size pistols but I have to admit the Glock 19 is the standard all others strive for. I just picked this up last week, and while it’s not a “19” it’s close -



Fun to shoot, haven’t decided on optic yet.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:46:35 AM EDT
[#16]
Wrong…..Glock 19X is the one glock to rule them all!
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:50:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1982fxr:
VP9 says, “How ya ‘doin?”
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or M&P 2.0

or CZ75

I respect the Glock 19 for what it is, but it lacks the refinements and superior ergonomics of many other handguns.

Having said that, if it was the end of the world and I had to pick one handgun, it might well be the Glock 19 due to reliability, durability, and ubiquity of parts and mags.

It however remains one of my least favorite handguns.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:50:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CloseAir:
It's the Glock 45 for me.. My meat hooks don't fit G19 grips very well.
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Same for me.  And I don’t have XL hands.   I also like my non-Glocks.   Glock is a reliable tool.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:58:07 AM EDT
[#19]
I don't like glocks that much, which is why I only have seven of them. Usually carry a PPQ or PDP... but sometimes a G19, 17 or 20. If glock were the only option it would be a fine choice.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:58:17 AM EDT
[#20]
In before Matt Best video.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 11:59:47 AM EDT
[#21]
Glock 45 is better
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:00:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CloseAir:
It's the Glock 45 for me.. My meat hooks don't fit G19 grips very well.
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Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:02:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:04:13 PM EDT
[#24]
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:04:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3:
I'm torn between 19 and 26s. 26 is definitely easier to conceal and will take any of the real glock 9mm mags (not the skinny jeans ones).

Put 7500 rounds of shit Tula through one when I got it new, no lube, no cleaning, it never hiccuped. OK, this will work.
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If you like the 26 try a 3.6” M&P compact. It’s like a 26 slide on a 19 grip
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:05:12 PM EDT
[#26]
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:06:55 PM EDT
[#27]
G19 with iron sights.

As it was carved into the bedrock of arfcom before our time.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:07:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LittlePony] [#28]
They are great but they just don't fit in my hands right. Stock ergonomics just suck for me, slide release and or stop is just needlessly flat and small and I'm not spending big money for a Gucci glock to fix those issues when I can just get a Shadow for the same price.

I'll stick to my cz75 or my revolvers for life.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:08:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DerekL:
Glock 17 is better.
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FPNI
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:09:00 PM EDT
[#30]
It's like a hammer, totally a tool, and about as boring to use.

Life is too short to drive a Honda Civic for 40 years, and so is a Glock.

You can lust over it all you like, I'll stick a Staccato CS or C on my hip and eat the 3-4oz more for a gun that makes me feel something inside.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:09:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fooboy:
Great pistol but less concealable
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I carry both concealed on duty. In fact this week all I’ve carried is my 17 but that doesn’t diminish my love for the 19 at all :-)
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:09:19 PM EDT
[#32]
I'll take the 4" K frame.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:09:48 PM EDT
[#33]
I have both a 17(Gen3 PD trade in that was never issued out) and a 19(Gen5 I picked up for $210 because the fudd pawn shop owner thought the small area of stippling for a thumb rest ruined the frame ). The 19 just seems to be better balanced on the front end, and slightly less recoil than the 17. My SA Xd Mod2 has the advantage of better ergonomics on the grip, but is slightly heavier than the 19. I wouldn’t feel undergunned with either of them.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:10:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bellows1:
I'll take the 4" K frame.
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I see you too are a man of culture.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:11:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CloseAir:
It's the Glock 45 for me.. My meat hooks don't fit G19 grips very well.
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G45 MOS has been treating me really well.  I carried the G19 gen3 for 5 years, Recently swapped to the 45. I am enjoying it!
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:13:21 PM EDT
[#36]
365 Macro is better
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:15:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Also; this long before a Glock 19;

Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:18:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FilthyCasual:
Also; this long before a Glock 19;

https://i.imgur.com/K981wBh.jpeg
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Yep
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:19:54 PM EDT
[#39]
A perfect post.  Should be tacked in the Glock Forum.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:20:18 PM EDT
[#40]
Absolutely great guns but I've moved on from striker fire back to hammer (for reholstering mainly).

Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:20:39 PM EDT
[#41]
The Glock 19 is a good gun because it's designed for people who don't think about guns.  A handgun is nothing more than an encumbrance for its carriers for 99% of its life, so the Glock 19 is just small enough to be a minor inconvenience while still meeting the needlessly large capacity requirements of its purchasers, and it can receive little to no maintenance and still work.  

It's not particularly ergonomic.  It's bigger than it needs to be.  Its factory sights are godawful.  The trigger is meh.  But all of that only matters to people who care about guns, which are not the people the Glock 19 is designed for.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:20:59 PM EDT
[#42]
Hold up now, the Glock 19 G3 is the best carry pistol, because it goes bang when it’s supposed to go bang and it doesn’t go bang when it is not supposed to go bang.

And it’s the one I have, so science tells us, it’s the best one.
And it has electrolytes, it’s what pistols crave.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:23:35 PM EDT
[#43]
I never leave home without one.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:24:53 PM EDT
[#44]
The Glock 19 is certainly one of the pistols of all time.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:25:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Deadtired:
The Glock 19 is a good gun because it's designed for people who don't think about guns.  A handgun is nothing more than an encumbrance for its carriers for 99% of its life, so the Glock 19 is just small enough to be a minor inconvenience while still meeting the needlessly large capacity requirements of its purchasers, and it can receive little to no maintenance and still work.  

It's not particularly ergonomic.  It's bigger than it needs to be.  Its factory sights are godawful.  The trigger is meh.  But all of that only matters to people who care about guns, which are not the people the Glock 19 is designed for.
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Nothing wrong with Glock factory night sights.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:25:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ShermanMcCoy] [#46]
You can get them through metal detectors:




And yes, this story actually originated in the WaPo funny pages.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:25:41 PM EDT
[#47]
Well first off it is not the BEST!!!!

Maybe if you have some girly hands, but the fucking grip is TOO short, G45, G19x G17 all more better in the Glock line-up.

Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:30:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tomac] [#48]
It isn't, grip like a 2x4.
However, the PSA Dagger (Gen3 clone) w/its redesigned grip is!
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:30:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StevenH:


Nothing wrong with Glock factory night sights.
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Buying optional extras can improve the sights, but that's true of any pistol.  I can buy a Glock trigger that makes the trigger less mediocre.  That doesn't make the "Glock Factory Trigger" nice.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 12:33:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Deadtired:
Buying optional extras can improve the sights, but that's true of any pistol.  I can buy a Glock trigger that makes the trigger less mediocre.  That doesn't make the "Glock Factory Trigger" nice.
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Originally Posted By Deadtired:
Originally Posted By StevenH:


Nothing wrong with Glock factory night sights.
Buying optional extras can improve the sights, but that's true of any pistol.  I can buy a Glock trigger that makes the trigger less mediocre.  That doesn't make the "Glock Factory Trigger" nice.


People thinking it’s still 1990.  

Glock offers the 19 with four or more factory sight options.if your Glock has plastic sights it’s because you picked that sku instead of the one with Glock night sights or Ameriglo night sights.
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