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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:10:04 PM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This all day. I so deeply wish Glock would do a similar .45 with the 30 lower and 21 upper. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:11:26 PM EST
[#2]
I think the 48MOS is better.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:13:26 PM EST
[#3]
I like the 19x best
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:14:03 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the 19x best I like the 19X a lot though. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:15:48 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thinner, thinner magazines. I'll even leave out ergonomics. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You misspelled 1911 .  Thinner, thinner magazines. I'll even leave out ergonomics. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:20:42 PM EST
[#6]
Because it just works.
It's that simple for me |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:22:47 PM EST
[#7]
19, 17, 45. Pick one, all three are hard to beat.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:29:28 PM EST
[#8]
45 is the best model of glock but there’s plenty of polymer pistols that are as good if not better.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:34:05 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistorySweet looking pistol! |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:37:30 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't imagine carrying a gun on a daily basis with so little confidence in my gun handling skills. I can't imagine having such a lapse in cognition that I would confuse the mechanics of a gun design with gun handling skills. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:40:43 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You spelled HK VP9 wrong, Sir. My 1st Glock was a G19. The VP9 is better. Anyone who can't see that is no better than a Fudd clinging to his .30-30. Dig it but trigger blows and snappier |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:44:23 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: VP9 says, “How ya ‘doin?” Thats cute... find mags and holsters and accessories to the same level as a Glock? The only thing a VP9 does better, take more of you money unnecessarily. You HK fan boys are a hoot! |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:45:29 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats cute... find mags and holsters and accessories to the same level as a Glock? The only thing a VP9 does better, take more of you money unnecessarily. You HK fan boys are a hoot! The VP9 is the only gun that makes Americans think a euro paddle mag release is better than a simple button. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:46:46 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are thinner in some spots but much thicker in others. The 1911 is great on its own merits but doesn't really belong in this conversation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You misspelled 1911 . Thinner, thinner magazines. I'll even leave out ergonomics. I didn't bring them up fwiw but where are they thicker? |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:47:15 PM EST
[#15]
My M&P9C eats my G19 for breakfast.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:50:34 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: VP9 is nice but the trigger sucks. Compared to what? A stock Glock trigger? The only stock striker fired trigger I found to be ok is Walther. Glock triggers are like a staple gun. Glock’s are easy to manufacture, reliable, decently accurate, and user serviceable. The abundance of aftermarket parts have turned them into adult Legos, which makes them even more popular. I have a 4th gen 30 and a 5th gen 19 MOS - also have a PSA Dagger, just because. They all work fine, but my biggest dislike of my 19/Dagger is they have by far the shortest throat of any 9mm I own. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:21:10 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I owned a Sig229 like you and then a Berretta 92, owning both thru ignorance. Looking back, da/sa triggers are tarded, and I felt stupid for not knowing how clueless I was until I bought my first striker- fired Glock with consistent pull trigger. Have you tried a striker fired? Well then, you may still be clueless...did you read earlier where I said I've been carrying a G-19 for 25 years? So yes, I have tried striker-fired pistols. While I enjoy all handguns, my G-19 is still my daily go-to and probably always will be, but my P-228 is the sweetest shooting handgun among the 38 I own, striker or hammer-fired. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:22:05 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't bring them up fwiw but where are they thicker? @Dunderway I'm curious what you meant also. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:23:58 PM EST
[#19]
It's the Glock 45, sorry OP.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:27:21 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:  I don't even remember mine looking so clean when new  I told you I babied mine! I bought it in 1999 as part of a divorce sale - $300 in the original box. The seller had maybe one box of ammo through it. My mistake was in not buying everything he had on the table. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:31:54 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Dunderway I'm curious what you meant also. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:33:12 PM EST
[#22]
Cheap, light, accurate firepower... they kinda beat the "pick two of three" equation
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:36:11 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't bring them up fwiw but where are they thicker? I know you didn't. I would have to break out calipers before I bet money on it, but pretty obviously (I think): Grip width of a 1911 with standard GI thickness grips; slide stop area; thumb safety area, especially if running an ambi. Not a big deal, and the 1911 is still absurdly slim for a .45, but just saying it's thinner does not tell the full tale IMO. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:36:29 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong ..Glock 19X is the one glock to rule them all! |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:41:38 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @TaskForce also I know you didn't. I would have to break out calipers before I bet money on it, but pretty obviously (I think): Grip width of a 1911 with standard GI thickness grips; slide stop area; thumb safety area, especially if running an ambi. Not a big deal, and the 1911 is still absurdly slim for a .45, but just saying it's thinner does not tell the full tale IMO. I thought you may have been talking about safeties and grips but I wasn't sure. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:43:33 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll accept it. Shoot I'll accept the g17 also Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's the Glock 45 for me.. My meat hooks don't fit G19 grips very well. Yep, G19 is still right up there, but the G45 edges it out. It’s pretty hard to beat a suppressed G45 with an RMR. Damned nice fighting gun. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:43:44 PM EST
[#27]
I shoot the 19 like it was made for me.
Recently picked up a 43x fir summer carry and it doesn’t agree with me. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:46:03 PM EST
[#28]
Lol. If it was, I'd still have one.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:46:03 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock 19 with a dot and a 2 rd extension - dot will give you more accuracy than the slightly longer sight radius of the 17, 2 rd factory extension gives you the same capacity while having the option of going shorter to make it slightly more concealable. Best of both worlds. Sir, this is a cope. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:49:16 PM EST
[#30]
G-17 I can shoot better than a 19, I never liked the 19.
Shield plus made the 26 and 19 obsolete for me though. VP9 is a trashcan gun. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:51:32 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't bring them up fwiw but where are they thicker? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You misspelled 1911 . Thinner, thinner magazines. I'll even leave out ergonomics. I didn't bring them up fwiw but where are they thicker? It’s been close to thirty years, but I measured my Glock 21 and Colt Gold Cup and was surprised the Gold Cup was thicker. Thinking back, it was probably the safety, slide lock or grip that was ticker than the thickest part of a Glock 21 |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:58:17 PM EST
[#32]
There are only two chamberings in America for fighting handguns. .45 ACP, and .357 Magnum. One may use .38 Spl in their .357 Mag if their wussy little 9mm wrists can't handle a man's cartridge.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:00:40 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s been close to thirty years, but I measured my Glock 21 and Colt Gold Cup and was surprised the Gold Cup was thicker. Thinking back, it was probably the safety, slide lock or grip that was ticker than the thickest part of a Glock 21 I don't have a 1911 with me right now. But this pic I found does make one look thicker than I would think. 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:08:31 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't have a 1911 with me right now. But this pic I found does make one look thicker than I would think. https://lodge-cdn.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge/wp-content/uploads/1911-vs-glock-grip-comparison.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s been close to thirty years, but I measured my Glock 21 and Colt Gold Cup and was surprised the Gold Cup was thicker. Thinking back, it was probably the safety, slide lock or grip that was ticker than the thickest part of a Glock 21 I don't have a 1911 with me right now. But this pic I found does make one look thicker than I would think. https://lodge-cdn.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge/wp-content/uploads/1911-vs-glock-grip-comparison.jpg It's also on an angle. Measuring the width of the safety is disingenuous and irrelevant as it doesn't impact anything. Look at the rear of the slide. Look at the magazines. 2 1911 mags are the same width of one glock 9mm mag. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:11:04 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's also on an angle. Measuring the width of the safety is disingenuous and irrelevant as it doesn't impact anything. Look at the rear of the slide. Look at the magazines. 2 1911 mags are the same width of one glock 9mm mag. I see the angle and I agree with you. It was just kind of messing with my memories of handling these guns. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:15:33 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't, grip like a 2x4. However, the PSA Dagger (Gen3 clone) w/its redesigned grip is!  |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:15:57 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought you may have been talking about safeties and grips but I wasn't sure. Scale also matters in terms of perception. People call the G26 a pig but if you pick up a 17 or 34 it's a pretty svelte gun. Both are the same width of course. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:17:40 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's kind of an unfair comparison for both guns IMO. Scale also matters in terms of perception. People call the G26 a pig but if you pick up a 17 or 34 it's a pretty svelte gun. Both are the same width of course. I always thought the G26/27 had goofy dimensions. I'm so glad the 365/43/43x/48 style carry guns came about. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:21:08 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's also on an angle. Measuring the width of the safety is disingenuous and irrelevant as it doesn't impact anything. Look at the rear of the slide. Look at the magazines. 2 1911 mags are the same width of one glock 9mm mag. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:26:41 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:35:58 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I subjectively don’t like Glocks. Objectively, the G19 is as close to the ideal handgun you can get. My thoughts exactly |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:41:26 PM EST
[#42]
As a 78 yr. old FUDD I've owned at least 1 of almost every common pistol and revolver over the last 60 yrs.
I rate the GLOCK as my least favorite. It goes bang, but that's all I'll give it. IMO, the HK VP9 is far superior in ergononics, points quicker and more naturally, has better reset and trigger. Undoubtedly one of the best tuperware pistols I've owned. That being said, at my age, I have decided that it would serve me best by going back to a manual safety. Therefore, I've reverted back to my old friend the HI-power. Specifically the Springfield SA35 version and the Kimber K6s DASA 3". |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:45:10 PM EST
[#43]
anecdotal evidence, took a very novice couple shooting yesterday to give them some pistols to try before they buy, we had: G17, G19, G43x, full size OZ9, CZ TSO and surprisingly they both liked the G19 the best, to them it seemed like it was easier to shoot and shot softer than the rest which kind of suprised me
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:55:10 PM EST
[#44]
Quoted: I don't recall who posted this, but here's why: "The G19 size/performance envelope is where a lot of lines cross for a lot of people. - The same sight radius as a 4" K-frame. - 16 shots/30 oz - Excellent and controllable and deliverable accuracy across the entire pistol caliber range and down to .14 splits with basic technique. - As close to perfectly reliable as a man-made machine can be, proven across decades, millions of users and hundreds of millions of rounds. - The simplest and most trouble free design, detail stripped with an ink pen. - Weatherproof. - Tolerant of abuse, indifferent maintenance and poor to no lubrication. - Rounded and smooth edges. - An ecosystem of parts, accessories and holsters developed across 40 years. From inception, Glock has pissed people off because of their "Perfection" marketing slogan, the very idea of a polymer frame ("They weren't first!" screeches HK), the not-a-1911 trigger, grip angle, plastic sights, LE sales ploys (ruthless, pseudo-ethical and brutally effective), lack of innovation and every other possible criticism that can be dreamed up by devotees of other brands - and still everything is trumpeted as "The Glock Killer". It is The Standard to beat. Smaller guns struggle to do what it can, and larger guns are simply larger. Completely devoid of romance or cachet. A gun that makes no statement about its user. A soulless killing machine." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113559/IMG_7227_jpeg-3313882.JPG |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:56:43 PM EST
[#45]
I’ve been pretty impressed with my CZ P10c, and love my DA/SA Sigs.
All that said, the G19 is my first serious carry gun, and still the pistol I’ve put the most rounds through. In SHTF, my G19 or P226 would be the one I’d choose if I could just have one. Realistically, in that situation, the Glock gets the nod due to ubiquitousness. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:02:26 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You spelled HK VP9 wrong, Sir. My 1st Glock was a G19. The VP9 is better. Anyone who can't see that is no better than a Fudd clinging to his .30-30. I bought a Glock 19 when they were first introduced and also have a Gen 5 (among a pile of other Glocks). I would have said the 19 was about as close as it gets and then I got a VP9. I could not believe how much better t the HK was. Glock are great, as is my High Power, CZ-75, P7, and M9 etc. But the VP9 is superior |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:13:56 PM EST
[#47]
The 19 just happens to get the job done. Duty tested, reliable, accurate. Best handgun? Possibly. But, due to extremely common, lots and lots of mag choices, pushes it to the top of my practical list. Carried, the standard 15 round is great, for concealed. If it's open carried in the woods,a 17 round. Nightstand? A 24 or 33 round mag. No need to overthink.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:15:01 PM EST
[#48]
I like Shadow Systems Glock the best.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:17:01 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not even close. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's also on an angle. Measuring the width of the safety is disingenuous and irrelevant as it doesn't impact anything. Look at the rear of the slide. Look at the magazines. 2 1911 mags are the same width of one glock 9mm mag.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:24:26 PM EST
[#50]
IMO the MP 2.0 compact is the best Glock 19
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