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Posted: 7/20/2021 1:14:30 PM EST
https://www.dailycamera.com/2021/07/20/boulder-county-law-enforcement-agencies-purchase-new-nonlethal-tool/

Basically, they bought BolaWraps.  Gotta say, I'd prefer getting hit with that to a taser.
Link Posted: 7/20/2021 4:11:16 PM EST
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For those of us who had to look up what the fuck a "gaucho hat" is.

Link Posted: 7/20/2021 4:29:32 PM EST
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They got some here. I got to demo it. It's neat and seems to work well.
Link Posted: 7/20/2021 4:36:04 PM EST
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Another "tool" that only works for the company making/selling them.  Only good for getting police killed.

They are worthless, but the sellers are major con artists and the "woke" police are buying them due to fear of the left.
Link Posted: 7/20/2021 4:49:13 PM EST
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Another "tool" that only works for the company making/selling them.  Only good for getting police killed.

They are worthless, but the sellers are major con artists and the "woke" police are buying them due to fear of the left.
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This, what a piece of shit.


The best thing is hire fit officers, encourage them to stay fit and train in ground fighting.


Link Posted: 7/20/2021 4:51:52 PM EST
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This, what a piece of shit.


The best thing is hire fit officers, encourage them to stay fit and train in ground fighting.


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Another "tool" that only works for the company making/selling them.  Only good for getting police killed.

They are worthless, but the sellers are major con artists and the "woke" police are buying them due to fear of the left.
This, what a piece of shit.


The best thing is hire fit officers, encourage them to stay fit and train in ground fighting.




Haven't used one myself...but I'm rather curious as to the qualifications of sherrick or wcc regarding handcuffing combative individuals on the street?
Link Posted: 7/20/2021 6:03:22 PM EST
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Another "tool" that only works for the company making/selling them.  Only good for getting police killed.

They are worthless, but the sellers are major con artists and the "woke" police are buying them due to fear of the left.
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They could work well in passive resistance situations but the majority of the time hands on is the only way.
Link Posted: 7/20/2021 6:20:43 PM EST
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Thank you!

I was leaning more "pants on head retarded".

Shows you what I know.
Link Posted: 7/20/2021 6:22:17 PM EST
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The local SO got some here. What a horrible idea, although they will never be used anyway so who cares.

Just imagine the uproar when some dude trips and breaks his face on the pavement.

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Haven't used one myself...but I'm rather curious as to the qualifications of sherrick or wcc regarding handcuffing combative individuals on the street?
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At least Sherrick is a retired LEO so I'm going with he's probably done it once or twice.
Link Posted: 7/20/2021 6:25:02 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/20/2021 6:28:06 PM EST
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The local SO got some here. What a horrible idea, although they will never be used anyway so who cares.

Just imagine the uproar when some dude trips and breaks his face on the pavement.

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It is one reason why Tasers were restricted from just being used for those that run (only crime is fleeing/not stopping). Quite a few face plants occurred with broken noses, lost teeth, and a broken jaw. I know there were other places that had some serious injuries and a couple of deaths from the fall during the run.
Link Posted: 7/20/2021 6:41:28 PM EST
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Haven't used one myself...but I'm rather curious as to the qualifications of sherrick or wcc regarding handcuffing combative individuals on the street?
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Another "tool" that only works for the company making/selling them.  Only good for getting police killed.

They are worthless, but the sellers are major con artists and the "woke" police are buying them due to fear of the left.
This, what a piece of shit.


The best thing is hire fit officers, encourage them to stay fit and train in ground fighting.




Haven't used one myself...but I'm rather curious as to the qualifications of sherrick or wcc regarding handcuffing combative individuals on the street?
I'm a retired LEO and taught defensive tactics.  A month wouldn't go by without some level of hands on force being used.  Usually more like weekly.   Good enough for you?
Link Posted: 7/20/2021 6:47:56 PM EST
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Shit I thought it was this-

Link Posted: 7/20/2021 6:51:47 PM EST
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What they really need are Roman gladiator fish nets like Ben-Hur had.
Link Posted: 7/20/2021 6:56:32 PM EST
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Gaucho hat, bolos, the great horsemen of the Argentinian pampas ...

Link Posted: 7/20/2021 7:00:47 PM EST
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I agree that fit officers would be a much better deal, and training officers in ground fighting and true jujutsu (not just the sport jujutsu in MMA, although that would be better than nothing) would make an immense difference to both officer safety, and safety of the public.  

With the current movement to either eliminate, or severely downsize police departments, locating funding that could be used to train and/or encourage fitness will be VERY difficult to acquire.  

Departments could have incentive pay for fitness and less than lethal training.   A couple of ideas (if funding were available) would be to have incentive pay for different fitness levels...the more fit, the more incentive pay.  The same idea could be applied to less than lethal training classes..those could be either various martial arts, or psychological de-escalation training.  Basic officers would get basic pay...if they were very fit, and/or highly trained in types of de-escalation, or useful psychological techniques, they could earn significantly more pay.

But this all goes back to what the public wants, and more importantly, what the public is willing to pay for.  If you give shit for pay with no incentives to better themselves, it would be unrealistic to expect officers to spend the time and money to do all the extra work to learn more things.
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