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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:48:19 PM EDT
I can't even begin to imagine what kind of horsepower this requires or what the fuel burn rate is.

I also can't imagine what the dude's body would look like if he wiped out.

Freaking insane.

Kong Approaching 180MPH In 1FT Chop
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 9:58:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:00:45 PM EDT
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No idea other that a whole lot of both horsepower and fuel as well as a huge pair of balls.
I'm impressed that his hat stayed on.  Mine always flies off before we hit 50 on my buddy's bass boat.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:02:09 PM EDT
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I'm not a boat guy - quick search says the boat has two Mercury Racing 1550/1350 engines.

Those numbers are the horsepower ratings - 1350 being possible on 91 octane pump gas.  120gph at 6200rpm each.




Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:03:57 PM EDT
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Seemed pretty stable. Don’t know how big the boat is, but at least a couple thousand horsepower.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:05:27 PM EDT
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Can he only go in one direction?
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:05:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:06:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FatSteve:
Can he only go in one direction?
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180 in reverse would be bonkers.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:07:14 PM EDT
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that is insane. 180mph in an open boat on the ocean... sheese
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:09:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cmw:

I'm not a boat guy - quick search says the boat has two Mercury Racing 1550/1350 engines.

Those numbers are the horsepower ratings - 1350 being possible on 91 octane pump gas.  120gph at 6200rpm each.




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I wonder what running at 7k does?  

Keeping it at 240gph for the pair...4 gals a minute.  I am guessing closer to 5 or more for what he was doing.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:14:48 PM EDT
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What happens when he hits a floating log?
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:16:25 PM EDT
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Gotta get those drugs into Miami somehow.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:17:24 PM EDT
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That’s terrifying.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:20:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak:


I wonder what running at 7k does?  

Keeping it at 240gph for the pair...4 gals a minute.  I am guessing closer to 5 or more for what he was doing.
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I hate feeding a single 454/BII when it's above economic cruise rpm, I'll go be poor over there ---->
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:21:21 PM EDT
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A Skater is my dream boat.  A 388 or 40ss with Sterling 1200s and 6's.

I've been 138 in an M35/1350 combo and we ran out of lake before we ran out of rippems.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:26:10 PM EDT
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Quite. Seems you would need a front spoiler and control surfaces at that speed.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:28:41 PM EDT
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Quite. Seems you would need a front spoiler and control surfaces at that speed.
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
That's terrifying.


Quite. Seems you would need a front spoiler and control surfaces at that speed.
It's all done with the trim, but yes, they do occasionally blow over.

FWIW- Merc will sell you a turnkey 1750.  No warranty though.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:30:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cmw:

I'm not a boat guy - quick search says the boat has two Mercury Racing 1550/1350 engines.

Those numbers are the horsepower ratings - 1350 being possible on 91 octane pump gas.  120gph at 6200rpm each.
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$200k motors...each.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:41:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cmw:

I'm not a boat guy - quick search says the boat has two Mercury Racing 1550/1350 engines.

Those numbers are the horsepower ratings - 1350 being possible on 91 octane pump gas.  120gph at 6200rpm each.




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Interesting.  The calculation Brave's AI bot spat out, using a Crouch's constant of 220 and 6,000 lbs displacement, came up with 2800 ish horsepower at the low end.  So 2 1350s/1550s at WOT seem like they're in the ballpark.  

0.5 gallon gasoline per HP per hour. Ish.  14-1500 gallons per hour.  Not a very long ride, but a quick one.  I'm reminded of the video recorded in a McLaren F1 at Nardi, setting what was the closed-circuit production car speed record, hitting like 400kph, and promptly running out of gas as it got there and stayed for a half minute.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:50:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-:
I can't even begin to imagine what kind of horsepower this requires or what the fuel burn rate is.

I also can't imagine what the dude's body would look like if he wiped out.

Freaking insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EFHh0Q_Tj4
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Ask Eddie Hill
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:51:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CyberSEAL:
$200k motors...each.
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To be fair, the 1350s have a 25hr (I think?) warranty.
Originally Posted By Wineraner:


Interesting.  The calculation Brave's AI bot spat out, using a Crouch's constant of 220 and 6,000 lbs displacement, came up with 2800 ish horsepower at the low end.  So 2 1350s/1550s at WOT seem like they're in the ballpark.  

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Man, I bet that Skater is north of 9k.  Also, not sure that algorithm works on cats.

Skater shows the listed weight at 4400lbs, but that's gotta be the bare hull.  A 1350/M8 is 1750/ea.  That's 7900lbs.

My buddys 48 MTI is ~12k, IIRC.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:52:12 PM EDT
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Skater 50SS with a pair of Merc1650’s on M8 outdrives.  Engines alone are $200K each and drives are $50K+ apiece.

The hull design, strakes, bow aero and tunnel configuration combined with the drives/ cav plates/ skegs and chines are what keep it (kind of) in the water.  Realistically, there isn’t much boat “in” the water.  They really are a marvel of engineering and physics, combined with brute horsepower.

If he lost it, he’d be splattered all over the place.  It’d be quick and painless.

A few years back (2016 or 17) during an annual radar run on the Potomac put on by the local river watering hole, another Skater (36 footer I believe), got too loose, caught too much air, and went ass over teakettle, killing both aboard.  They’d hit 190mph that day. Both were experienced racers.

These boats aren’t toys, weekenders or hobby craft, and aren’t typical of the “go-fast” types like scarabs, cigarette, donzi, fountain, Baja, etc.

These are akin to going to McLaren, or picking up an F1 car, or maybe even more closely related to planes used in Air Racing.  

Amazing machines, but they’re no joke and can kill an experienced pilot quickly.

ETA:  the Potomac crash was 2016 and they hit 174mph.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:54:50 PM EDT
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I dated a girl whose father had a 36' Skater. By the time we broke up the boat ended up with twin 1550 HP engines. I drove it 120+ and rode in it at 140+. They sent it to Lake of the Ozarks (I think) for an official speed run. With performance props, a professional driver, and a light load of fuel it broke 170mph. It was one hell of a toy.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:55:59 PM EDT
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Another article says the boat has done 147 mph in getting and should too out at 160 mph. Still short of 180.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:57:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LexConcord:


A few years back (2016 or 17) during an annual radar run on the Potomac put on by the local river watering hole, another Skater (36 footer I believe), got too loose, caught too much air, and went ass over teakettle, killing both aboard.  They'd hit 190mph that day. Both were experienced racers.


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I remember that.  Along with Brad Smith, Mike Fiore, the Lickity Split crew...many others.  
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 10:57:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MethaneMover:
To be fair, the 1350s have a 25hr (I think?) warranty.
Man, I bet that Skater is north of 9k.  Also, not sure that algorithm works on cats.
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Shrug.  I was trying to find a site like for Scarab or Donzi where you could get a guess about X HP to reach Y Knots, and it spat that out for a planing hull vs V- hull.  V-hull, it was estimating ~4500 HP.  I couldn't even guess what sounded close---closest I've been is in some guy's boat with a 454 or similar, doing 70 on Lake Travis.  Expensive hobby...

I was just surprised at how close the AI's guess was to the poster citing which engines actually are in Kong.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 11:00:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MethaneMover:

I remember that.  Along with Brad Smith, Mike Fiore, the Lickity Split crew...many others.  
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Originally Posted By MethaneMover:
Originally Posted By LexConcord:


A few years back (2016 or 17) during an annual radar run on the Potomac put on by the local river watering hole, another Skater (36 footer I believe), got too loose, caught too much air, and went ass over teakettle, killing both aboard.  They'd hit 190mph that day. Both were experienced racers.



I remember that.  Along with Brad Smith, Mike Fiore, the Lickity Split crew...many others.  


Yep.  I was there.  

Balls of steel, all of them,  RIP.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 11:00:26 PM EDT
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Sweet boat, awful paint job.
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Originally Posted By Wineraner:


Shrug.  I was trying to find a site like for Scarab or Donzi where you could get a guess about X HP to reach Y Knots, and it spat that out for a planing hull vs V- hull.  V-hull, it was estimating ~4500 HP.  I couldn't even guess what sounded close---closest I've been is in some guy's boat with a 454 or similar, doing 70 on Lake Travis.  Expensive hobby...

I was just surprised at how close the AI's guess was to the poster citing which engines actually are in Kong.
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That it is.  It's also possibly the most mechanically punishing enviroment in which to 'go fast'.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 11:04:28 PM EDT
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Less and less of that hull is in direct contact with the water as the speed goes up.  Pretty damn close to flying.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 11:05:37 PM EDT
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Yep, all about that hat, that's a nice hat, a party hat.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 11:09:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
That’s terrifying.
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Going fast on the water never appealed to me.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 11:16:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SeanTX:


Going fast on the water never appealed to me.
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Originally Posted By SeanTX:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
That’s terrifying.


Going fast on the water never appealed to me.


Same.

I grew up on the water. Have been on boats since I was a little kid, and am on one every weekend as an adult.  

I have no, and I mean absolutely zero, interest in going fast.  Keep it below 40, and I’m good.

I jump out of airplanes for fun, have done track days in a 911GT3R, and always had a sports car of some sort for the past 25+ years.  But, fast boats? Nope.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 11:17:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
Sweet boat, awful paint job.
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Shitty airbrush work too for what I imagine he paid.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 11:19:34 PM EDT
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Shitty airbrush work too for what I imagine he paid.
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
Sweet boat, awful paint job.
Shitty airbrush work too for what I imagine he paid.


Eh, it all just ends up a big blur when that thing’s underway.
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 11:22:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SeanTX:


Going fast on the water never appealed to me.
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Originally Posted By SeanTX:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
That's terrifying.


Going fast on the water never appealed to me.
This, to me, looks like the apex of living.
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Link Posted: 4/24/2024 11:28:44 PM EDT
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In before 'ev's do it better'
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He clearly does not care about the poor manatees.

Curious if a boat like that going 170-180mph could turn to avoid a boat that cut across his bow?
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 12:20:56 AM EDT
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Hmm... Florida to Bimini in 15mintues sounds nice.
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Link Posted: 4/25/2024 12:36:52 AM EDT
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For sale….

$949k
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 5:52:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MethaneMover:
To be fair, the 1350s have a 25hr (I think?) warranty.
Man, I bet that Skater is north of 9k.  Also, not sure that algorithm works on cats.

Skater shows the listed weight at 4400lbs, but that's gotta be the bare hull.  A 1350/M8 is 1750/ea.  That's 7900lbs.

My buddys 48 MTI is ~12k, IIRC.
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damn, seems about right. i rode in a skater cat a few years back and for the 45min we were out, he put a 55gal drum in and we easily hit 160mph. it was stupid fast…….when he accelerated, it literally sucked me into the bucket seat.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 7:25:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MethaneMover:
This, to me, looks like the apex of living.
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Looks more like the moment prior to dying.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 7:45:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LexConcord:
Skater 50SS with a pair of Merc1650’s on M8 outdrives.  Engines alone are $200K each and drives are $50K+ apiece.

The hull design, strakes, bow aero and tunnel configuration combined with the drives/ cav plates/ skegs and chines are what keep it (kind of) in the water.  Realistically, there isn’t much boat “in” the water.  They really are a marvel of engineering and physics, combined with brute horsepower.

If he lost it, he’d be splattered all over the place.  It’d be quick and painless.

A few years back (2016 or 17) during an annual radar run on the Potomac put on by the local river watering hole, another Skater (36 footer I believe), got too loose, caught too much air, and went ass over teakettle, killing both aboard.  They’d hit 190mph that day. Both were experienced racers.

These boats aren’t toys, weekenders or hobby craft, and aren’t typical of the “go-fast” types like scarabs, cigarette, donzi, fountain, Baja, etc.

These are akin to going to McLaren, or picking up an F1 car, or maybe even more closely related to planes used in Air Racing.  

Amazing machines, but they’re no joke and can kill an experienced pilot quickly.

ETA:  the Potomac crash was 2016 and they hit 174mph.
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I was going to mention that. I was supposed to be out that day but we decided not to, and we would've been at Fairview. I did wind up seeing six different angles of the incident from the people that were there. That Skater (well, all of them, really) are mostly hovercraft, not boats.
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Originally Posted By LexConcord:


Same.

I grew up on the water. Have been on boats since I was a little kid, and am on one every weekend as an adult.  

I have no, and I mean absolutely zero, interest in going fast.  Keep it below 40, and I’m good.

I jump out of airplanes for fun, have done track days in a 911GT3R, and always had a sports car of some sort for the past 25+ years.  But, fast boats? Nope.
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Originally Posted By SeanTX:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
That’s terrifying.


Going fast on the water never appealed to me.


Same.

I grew up on the water. Have been on boats since I was a little kid, and am on one every weekend as an adult.  

I have no, and I mean absolutely zero, interest in going fast.  Keep it below 40, and I’m good.

I jump out of airplanes for fun, have done track days in a 911GT3R, and always had a sports car of some sort for the past 25+ years.  But, fast boats? Nope.


I was pretty happy going 12 knots through the keys yesterday for a bit. You couldn’t pay me to ride in one of those. With that said, I still find it interesting how much prohibition and the war on drugs has driven new designs and limits on equipment such as boats.

It’s taken many years, but I’ve finally found something I can agree with Low_Country on!
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Another (older) boat of his:

About 5 mins is where the booger sugar kicks in and they fo.


Cats are neat, but just not as cool.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 7:57:45 AM EDT
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This looks much more fun. And sceanic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQJLNtU73yk
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146mph on a river narrower than places I’ve kayaked.

Very neat, but I want no part of it.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 8:27:29 AM EDT
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Faster than I want to go.

150hp here.
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