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Originally Posted By FS7: I can't even respond more than a line or two without the site freezing. Massie voted against trillions of government waste and foreign aid. It's incredibly naive to make a statement like you did. That's Fox News type nonsense, the type of garbage I just argued with my dad about. Also, Trump specifically campaigned on no new wars, so an undeclared war in the Middle East is exactly NOT what the voters wanted. What the bloody hell are you talking about? On November 4, 1979, Iranian militants seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days. That was an invasion of sovereign American soil and in any way you slice it, an act of war. The same bunch that did that is running Iran Today. We've been fighting them for 47 years. This is NOT a "new war". |
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Originally Posted By ChudditePrime: Lol being critical of politicians makes you a snowflake. What a patriotic stance. I think it's ironic to accuse others of attention seeking vanity and feelings of superiority in defense of a man like Trump. Sincerely, 3 time Trump voter who must have had TDS all these years but never showed any symptoms until we got a new war. Clearly we're the problem, not politicians who deceive voters to advance the agenda of their donors with foreign citizenship. Again, NOT a new war. A 47 year old war where the other side was about to get nukes to end the world. |
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Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Again, NOT a new war. A 47 year old war where the other side was about to get nukes to end the world. "Not a new war" Meanwhile Trump in 2011 about Obama starting a new war with Iran because he can't negotiate and is weak.
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Originally Posted By Master_Shake:
We overthrew their elected government in 1953 and installed the Shah, so it’s really been more like 73 years. |
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Originally Posted By FS7: This is rationalization and excuses, pure and simple. The bill was horrible. It's a large part of why Trump is the biggest spender in history and it's not even close. It's almost impressive in its scope, or would be if we all weren't paying for it. It's disingenuous at best to say Massie tried to sabotage changes to the NFA. He tried to stop an abortion of a spending bill that funded dozens of bad things and didn't fund dozens of good things Republicans promised to do. If you asked him he'd tell you straight up what was good and bad in the bill and I'd guarantee he'd have voted to can the NFA entirely (no pun intended) given the chance. You're not an idiot. You know damn well this is the truth. Nailed it |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: Wish we had more like him. He’s more America First than Trump and Hegseth is at this point Coming from you?? That's rich lol. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Again, NOT a new war. A 47 year old war where the other side was about to get nukes AGAIN to end the world. Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Originally Posted By ChudditePrime: Lol being critical of politicians makes you a snowflake. What a patriotic stance. I think it's ironic to accuse others of attention seeking vanity and feelings of superiority in defense of a man like Trump. Sincerely, 3 time Trump voter who must have had TDS all these years but never showed any symptoms until we got a new war. Clearly we're the problem, not politicians who deceive voters to advance the agenda of their donors with foreign citizenship. Again, NOT a new war. A 47 year old war where the other side was about to get nukes AGAIN to end the world. Haven't they been trying all this time and we've stopped, delayed, constrained, exposed, or temporarily suspended portions of their program quite a few times? |
"Some of the greatest dads I've ever seen weren't so much perfect as they were willing to work hard to overcome their failings. Does that make sense?"
Yes. Yes it does.
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Originally Posted By Master_Shake: "Not a new war" Meanwhile Trump in 2011 about Obama starting a new war with Iran because he can't negotiate and is weak.
The jokes write themselves with someone you. Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Again, NOT a new war. A 47 year old war where the other side was about to get nukes to end the world. "Not a new war" Meanwhile Trump in 2011 about Obama starting a new war with Iran because he can't negotiate and is weak.
The jokes write themselves with someone you. Both sides posture. As do you. |
"Some of the greatest dads I've ever seen weren't so much perfect as they were willing to work hard to overcome their failings. Does that make sense?"
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Originally Posted By PeepEater: We overthrew their elected government in 1953 and installed the Shah, so it’s really been more like 73 years. You mean we overthrew the Soviet puppet and installed our own? Welcome to the Cold war ..... |
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Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Haven't they been trying all this time and we've stopped, delayed, constrained, exposed, or temporarily suspended portions of their program quite a few times? Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Originally Posted By ChudditePrime: Lol being critical of politicians makes you a snowflake. What a patriotic stance. I think it's ironic to accuse others of attention seeking vanity and feelings of superiority in defense of a man like Trump. Sincerely, 3 time Trump voter who must have had TDS all these years but never showed any symptoms until we got a new war. Clearly we're the problem, not politicians who deceive voters to advance the agenda of their donors with foreign citizenship. Again, NOT a new war. A 47 year old war where the other side was about to get nukes AGAIN to end the world. Haven't they been trying all this time and we've stopped, delayed, constrained, exposed, or temporarily suspended portions of their program quite a few times? Yes. What do "temporarily" mean, again? |
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Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Yes. What do "temporarily" mean, again? Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Originally Posted By ChudditePrime: Lol being critical of politicians makes you a snowflake. What a patriotic stance. I think it's ironic to accuse others of attention seeking vanity and feelings of superiority in defense of a man like Trump. Sincerely, 3 time Trump voter who must have had TDS all these years but never showed any symptoms until we got a new war. Clearly we're the problem, not politicians who deceive voters to advance the agenda of their donors with foreign citizenship. Again, NOT a new war. A 47 year old war where the other side was about to get nukes AGAIN to end the world. Haven't they been trying all this time and we've stopped, delayed, constrained, exposed, or temporarily suspended portions of their program quite a few times? Yes. What do "temporarily" mean, again? I believe I'm tracking it correctly now!  To the point where I can quickly shut down the 'We've been told "They're about to obtain nukes" how many times already?' statements from the retards. |
"Some of the greatest dads I've ever seen weren't so much perfect as they were willing to work hard to overcome their failings. Does that make sense?"
Yes. Yes it does.
Yes. Yes it does.
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Originally Posted By VeryAverage: It’s just a personality flaw some very broken people have that’s common in the TDS crowd which claims to be Republican. They don’t like the other side, they claim, but their superiority complex makes them completely unable to do anything with their own side because agreeing would make them less special and wise, so they have to constantly nitpick and critique their own side, but their vain and desperate searching for approval means they also have to “reach across the aisle”. They are mentally unwell when it comes down to it. Children trapped in adult bodies who are incapable of making binary decisions. If they were on the other side, they’d do the same thing. Ultimately it’s about attention seeking vanity and a feeling of superiority… the “principles” are just for show. Originally Posted By VeryAverage: Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Trump has broken so many people. 14 years in Congress and during the whole time and out of all the people he could have filed impeachment against….it’s the Republican appointed SOW. Fuck Massie. It’s just a personality flaw some very broken people have that’s common in the TDS crowd which claims to be Republican. They don’t like the other side, they claim, but their superiority complex makes them completely unable to do anything with their own side because agreeing would make them less special and wise, so they have to constantly nitpick and critique their own side, but their vain and desperate searching for approval means they also have to “reach across the aisle”. They are mentally unwell when it comes down to it. Children trapped in adult bodies who are incapable of making binary decisions. If they were on the other side, they’d do the same thing. Ultimately it’s about attention seeking vanity and a feeling of superiority… the “principles” are just for show. Not being able to do anything with their own side? Desperately searching for approval? Vain and desperate? Attention seeking vanity? Thats Trump, my dude, in a nutshell… Yet here you are… How emotional and passionate you are, but totally unable to turn that critical eye toward the right people… |
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Originally Posted By Master_Shake: "Not a new war" Meanwhile Trump in 2011 about Obama starting a new war with Iran because he can't negotiate and is weak.
The jokes write themselves with someone you. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: obama is the reason we're here. JCPOA gave them 15 years to build thier weapons program and apparently a whole pile of missiles. Originally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By Master_Shake: "Not a new war" Meanwhile Trump in 2011 about Obama starting a new war with Iran because he can't negotiate and is weak.
The jokes write themselves with someone you. Just like how it's Obama's fault Trump started a war Iran. Poor Trump, all his bad decisions are someone else's fault.  |
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Originally Posted By Master_Shake: You mean the JCPOA that Trump withdrew the US from in 2018? I'm sure that was Obama's fault as well or Biden's fault or both. Anyone's fault but the person that did it. Just like how it's Obama's fault Trump started a war Iran. Poor Trump, all his bad decisions are someone else's fault. Even without JCPOA they still had no peaceful reason to enrich beyond commercial fuel levels, and literally every authority in the world knows they did. jcpoa was cover for them, it didn't stop them. |
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Originally Posted By APPARITION: What did his principled votes accomplish? What did it get him? What did it get us? Originally Posted By APPARITION: Originally Posted By Karankawa: Looking only at the pro 2A stuff in the Big Beautiful Bill is dishonest, and will only sway the most simple minded of reader. It added trillions of debt and let’s not forget the 10 year moratorium on AI. It doesn’t matter if it completely abolished the NFA, GCA and Hughes amendment. Firearms are obsolete now regarding defense against tyranny. We are witness to the start of the era of surveillance, robots, drones and directed energy weapons. He tried to stop it or at least slow it down. Of course Massey couldn’t accomplish anything. He’s one guy in a sea of politicians with no respect for or direct contempt of the constitution. What he did was make principled votes that generally worked to limit the scope and strength of our central government, taxes and debt burden for future generations. He introduced the surveillance state repeal act as an answer to the patriot act and voted against billions in foreign aid. He also sought justice for underage victims of sex trafficking/blackmail network in the most positive bipartisan effort in my lifetime. What more could you possibly ask? What did his principled votes accomplish? What did it get him? What did it get us? What did the unprincipled voted get us? I remember now. They got us into our shit situation. Great "accomplishments." 
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"Positive rights" are neither.
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Originally Posted By VeryAverage: It’s just a personality flaw some very broken people have that’s common in the TDS crowd which claims to be Republican. They don’t like the other side, they claim, but their superiority complex makes them completely unable to do anything with their own side because agreeing would make them less special and wise, so they have to constantly nitpick and critique their own side, but their vain and desperate searching for approval means they also have to “reach across the aisle”. They are mentally unwell when it comes down to it. Children trapped in adult bodies who are incapable of making binary decisions. If they were on the other side, they’d do the same thing. Ultimately it’s about attention seeking vanity and a feeling of superiority… the “principles” are just for show. Originally Posted By VeryAverage: Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Trump has broken so many people. 14 years in Congress and during the whole time and out of all the people he could have filed impeachment against….it’s the Republican appointed SOW. Fuck Massie. It’s just a personality flaw some very broken people have that’s common in the TDS crowd which claims to be Republican. They don’t like the other side, they claim, but their superiority complex makes them completely unable to do anything with their own side because agreeing would make them less special and wise, so they have to constantly nitpick and critique their own side, but their vain and desperate searching for approval means they also have to “reach across the aisle”. They are mentally unwell when it comes down to it. Children trapped in adult bodies who are incapable of making binary decisions. If they were on the other side, they’d do the same thing. Ultimately it’s about attention seeking vanity and a feeling of superiority… the “principles” are just for show. LOL |
"Positive rights" are neither.
Busy leaving people the F alone.
Busy leaving people the F alone.
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Originally Posted By Primecube: He is a Fucking Clown... Originally Posted By Primecube: Originally Posted By pirate_CNC: The guy is insufferable prick. He is a Fucking Clown... But he's at least not an orange clown. 
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"Positive rights" are neither.
Busy leaving people the F alone.
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Originally Posted By ag04blast: This thread shows why we are where we are. There is zero reason we should have to accept the pork wrapped in pork, stuffed with pork that is the BigBeautBill to get zero dollar tax stamps. We dont "have" to play this game...yet we still do. Where we are is a Massieless house. Reason? Voting with dems. It’s that simple. |
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Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: You mean we overthrew the Soviet puppet and installed our own? Welcome to the Cold war ..... Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Originally Posted By PeepEater: We overthrew their elected government in 1953 and installed the Shah, so it’s really been more like 73 years. You mean we overthrew the Soviet puppet and installed our own? Welcome to the Cold war ..... Thank you |
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Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Where we are is a Massieless house. Reason? Voting with dems. It’s that simple. Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By ag04blast: This thread shows why we are where we are. There is zero reason we should have to accept the pork wrapped in pork, stuffed with pork that is the BigBeautBill to get zero dollar tax stamps. We dont "have" to play this game...yet we still do. Where we are is a Massieless house. Reason? Voting with dems. It’s that simple. He never voted "like a dem." We can't say that about everyone with R behind their name. |
"Positive rights" are neither.
Busy leaving people the F alone.
Busy leaving people the F alone.
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: What did the unprincipled voted get us? I remember now. They got us into our shit situation. Great "accomplishments." Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Originally Posted By APPARITION: Originally Posted By Karankawa: Looking only at the pro 2A stuff in the Big Beautiful Bill is dishonest, and will only sway the most simple minded of reader. It added trillions of debt and let’s not forget the 10 year moratorium on AI. It doesn’t matter if it completely abolished the NFA, GCA and Hughes amendment. Firearms are obsolete now regarding defense against tyranny. We are witness to the start of the era of surveillance, robots, drones and directed energy weapons. He tried to stop it or at least slow it down. Of course Massey couldn’t accomplish anything. He’s one guy in a sea of politicians with no respect for or direct contempt of the constitution. What he did was make principled votes that generally worked to limit the scope and strength of our central government, taxes and debt burden for future generations. He introduced the surveillance state repeal act as an answer to the patriot act and voted against billions in foreign aid. He also sought justice for underage victims of sex trafficking/blackmail network in the most positive bipartisan effort in my lifetime. What more could you possibly ask? What did his principled votes accomplish? What did it get him? What did it get us? What did the unprincipled voted get us? I remember now. They got us into our shit situation. Great "accomplishments." Cheaper suppressors |
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: He never voted "like a dem." We can't say that about everyone with R behind their name. Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By ag04blast: This thread shows why we are where we are. There is zero reason we should have to accept the pork wrapped in pork, stuffed with pork that is the BigBeautBill to get zero dollar tax stamps. We dont "have" to play this game...yet we still do. Where we are is a Massieless house. Reason? Voting with dems. It’s that simple. He never voted "like a dem." We can't say that about everyone with R behind their name. I’d suggest his constituents felt otherwise. |
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Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: I’d suggest his constituents felt otherwise. Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By ag04blast: This thread shows why we are where we are. There is zero reason we should have to accept the pork wrapped in pork, stuffed with pork that is the BigBeautBill to get zero dollar tax stamps. We dont "have" to play this game...yet we still do. Where we are is a Massieless house. Reason? Voting with dems. It’s that simple. He never voted "like a dem." We can't say that about everyone with R behind their name. I’d suggest his constituents felt otherwise. Agree. People acting on feelings aren't acting on reason. |
"Positive rights" are neither.
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Originally Posted By PeepEater: We overthrew their elected government in 1953 and installed the Shah, so it's really been more like 73 years. Unless Israel, because 1948. |
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Originally Posted By kozaki: You're not supposed to remember that far back. Unless Israel, because 1948. Originally Posted By kozaki: Originally Posted By PeepEater: We overthrew their elected government in 1953 and installed the Shah, so it's really been more like 73 years. Unless Israel, because 1948. Then let's go back a little further. Like 1941. What happened in Iran that year? |
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Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Again, NOT a new war. A 47 year old war where the other side was about to get nukes to end the world. Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Originally Posted By ChudditePrime: Lol being critical of politicians makes you a snowflake. What a patriotic stance. I think it's ironic to accuse others of attention seeking vanity and feelings of superiority in defense of a man like Trump. Sincerely, 3 time Trump voter who must have had TDS all these years but never showed any symptoms until we got a new war. Clearly we're the problem, not politicians who deceive voters to advance the agenda of their donors with foreign citizenship. Again, NOT a new war. A 47 year old war where the other side was about to get nukes to end the world. Good grief the histrionics. |
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC: Good grief the histrionics. Originally Posted By Citadel-SC: Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Originally Posted By ChudditePrime: Lol being critical of politicians makes you a snowflake. What a patriotic stance. I think it's ironic to accuse others of attention seeking vanity and feelings of superiority in defense of a man like Trump. Sincerely, 3 time Trump voter who must have had TDS all these years but never showed any symptoms until we got a new war. Clearly we're the problem, not politicians who deceive voters to advance the agenda of their donors with foreign citizenship. Again, NOT a new war. A 47 year old war where the other side was about to get nukes to end the world. Good grief the histrionics. A peaceful people? Just misunderstood? |
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Originally Posted By VeryAverage: It’s just a personality flaw some very broken people have that’s common in the TDS crowd which claims to be Republican. They don’t like the other side, they claim, but their superiority complex makes them completely unable to do anything with their own side because agreeing would make them less special and wise, so they have to constantly nitpick and critique their own side, but their vain and desperate searching for approval means they also have to “reach across the aisle”. They are mentally unwell when it comes down to it. Children trapped in adult bodies who are incapable of making binary decisions. If they were on the other side, they’d do the same thing. Ultimately it’s about attention seeking vanity and a feeling of superiority… the “principles” are just for show. Originally Posted By VeryAverage: Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Trump has broken so many people. 14 years in Congress and during the whole time and out of all the people he could have filed impeachment against….it’s the Republican appointed SOW. Fuck Massie. It’s just a personality flaw some very broken people have that’s common in the TDS crowd which claims to be Republican. They don’t like the other side, they claim, but their superiority complex makes them completely unable to do anything with their own side because agreeing would make them less special and wise, so they have to constantly nitpick and critique their own side, but their vain and desperate searching for approval means they also have to “reach across the aisle”. They are mentally unwell when it comes down to it. Children trapped in adult bodies who are incapable of making binary decisions. If they were on the other side, they’d do the same thing. Ultimately it’s about attention seeking vanity and a feeling of superiority… the “principles” are just for show. I know someone that you have just described exactly. |
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Originally Posted By Glock031: Massie is irrelevant. Same as he ever was. In the end I'm glad DJT got to put his size 12 foot straight up Massie ass. Trump wears a size 8 shoe Small hands and small feet Massie will get the last laugh after the mid terms, it's going to be funny because it was all so preventable |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: Trump wears a size 8 shoe Small hands and small feet Massie will get the last laugh after the mid terms, it's going to be funny because it was all so preventable 
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Originally Posted By xd341: and what....pray tell...are you alluding to? Wait...do you think Trumps going to get removed from office? Originally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By JLAudio: Trump wears a size 8 shoe Small hands and small feet Massie will get the last laugh after the mid terms, it's going to be funny because it was all so preventable I think Trump will go down in history as the only US President that was impeached 3 times. Removal from office, maybe, depends how many seats in the Senate Democrats get. Like I said, it was all so preventable. Originally Posted By LoneMouser: In God we trust, everybody else bring data. Guy voted more conservatively than just anyone else in congress, including the 2A, and took $0 in Israeli money unlike the majority in Congress... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/598037/Massie_Liberty_Score-3717933.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/598037/Massie_Aipac_Tracker-3829144.jpg That's not good enough for many here. |
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I'm confused. Ever since Obama's second term, Democrats have abandoned any pretenses of caring about the Constitution or even just liking this country. It got so bad that we elected DJT as a giant middle finger to them - so that we could take their dirty tactics and weaponize them by simply taking the majority position on 80/20 and 90/10 issues. The prevailing thought was that they would see Trump as so egregiously outside of their norms that they would claw back all of the overreach they institutionalized. They did no such thing and allowed tens of millions of foreign invaders through the border unchecked and on federal assistance programs. This resulted in Trump's re-election by POPULAR vote - gaining significant ground with every demographic except crazy cat ladies. In the face of all of this, your complaint is what exactly? That we aren't playing by the rules? Where did that get us? By playing outside of the established rulebook, we've been able to make serious headway in Latin America (which will continue), we've withdrawn most US presence from bases in the Middle East (and considering the same for Europe), we haven't expanded our roles in Ukraine to direct support and Iranian ground invasion hasn't occurred, and - to top it all off - we are seeing net negative migration for the first time in FIVE DECADES. You'll have to forgive me if I don't care about the rules anymore. The other side doesn't play by them. To the extent that we restrict ourselves with rules that they do not, we are self-limiting our capability to succeed and ensuring that they take power again. To truly care about being principled Constitutionalists would be to expend all energy and political capital for the sake of political reforms that will never be accepted by our modern institutions. Massie chose (pretended imo) to do that, and now he'll never be effective in Congress again - if he ever even was. But hey, at least he said the right words even if he never got anything meaningful done, right? Still waiting on him to drop that Epstein list... |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: I think Trump will go down in history as the only US President that was impeached 3 times. Removal from office, maybe, depends how many seats in the Senate Democrats get. Like I said, it was all so preventable. That's not good enough for many here. It's Trump, go ahead...he'll print up hattrick hats, sell them for a profit and move on. It will go down as a sign of congresses impotence, and frivolousness. If it was worth doing any of those times, they would have made it stick. But it's just politics. |
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Originally Posted By PacificNic: I'm confused. Ever since Obama's second term, Democrats have abandoned any pretenses of caring about the Constitution or even just liking this country. It got so bad that we elected DJT as a giant middle finger to them - so that we could take their dirty tactics and weaponize them by simply taking the majority position on 80/20 and 90/10 issues. The prevailing thought was that they would see Trump as so egregiously outside of their norms that they would claw back all of the overreach they institutionalized. They did no such thing and allowed tens of millions of foreign invaders through the border unchecked and on federal assistance programs. This resulted in Trump's re-election by POPULAR vote - gaining significant ground with every demographic except crazy cat ladies. In the face of all of this, your complaint is what exactly? That we aren't playing by the rules? Where did that get us? By playing outside of the established rulebook, we've been able to make serious headway in Latin America (which will continue), we've withdrawn most US presence from bases in the Middle East (and considering the same for Europe), we haven't expanded our roles in Ukraine to direct support and Iranian ground invasion hasn't occurred, and - to top it all off - we are seeing net negative migration for the first time in FIVE DECADES. You'll have to forgive me if I don't care about the rules anymore. The other side doesn't play by them. To the extent that we restrict ourselves with rules that they do not, we are self-limiting our capability to succeed and ensuring that they take power again. To truly care about being principled Constitutionalists would be to expend all energy and political capital for the sake of political reforms that will never be accepted by our modern institutions. Massie chose (pretended imo) to do that, and now he'll never be effective in Congress again - if he ever even was. But hey, at least he said the right words even if he never got anything meaningful done, right? Still waiting on him to drop that Epstein list... Good post and I agree. |
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