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4/11/2009 2:16:12 PM EDT
[#1]
I have yet to have had a problem with the KCI G19 mags. Yeah the first few times were a PITA to load up but then again so are new Glock factory mags. I'd try a G18 KCI before I ordered a bunch but for all the naysayers, I sure see a lot of aftermarket mags for 1911s that seem to work pretty damn well.

Gotta sometimes wonder if some of the "OMG" types aren't trying to keep demand down to get some more themselves................. Try one or two, if they suck don't buy more. I'm pretty happy with the KCI's myself and they have worked 100% so far.
4/11/2009 6:11:25 PM EDT
[#2]
wow, I am really on the fence here.  If anyone has more pics, I sure would appreciate it.

I have been looking at picking up a few for a 40-9 conversion and some cheap range beaters for training.  At current prices and my practice level, mags are starting to hurt.  


thanks for all the post about this guys.  I know we have lots of differing opinions on these mags, but it has been a great education for me so far on a new product.
4/12/2009 10:21:12 AM EDT
[#3]
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Try one or two, if they suck don't buy more. I'm pretty happy with the KCI's myself and they have worked 100% so far.

I agree. I crack up at the people who want to say those of us who stepped up to try these are being cheap. IMO, they are the cheap asses who won't cough up $20-$30 to try a couple of these for them selves in order to form an informed opinion. Instead they rather come here and spout off about something they have no experience with and then tell us how stupid and cheap we are

I just ran mine through a steel match yesterday. Another 100 rounds including mags reloads were the mags dropped free and not retained (meaning they were dropped to either the table or ground (both loaded and unloaded) and they worked 100% perfectly (Just like any of my factory Glock mags but at less then half the price
4/13/2009 11:48:11 AM EDT
[#4]
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Try one or two, if they suck don't buy more. I'm pretty happy with the KCI's myself and they have worked 100% so far.

I agree. I crack up at the people who want to say those of us who stepped up to try these are being cheap. IMO, they are the cheap asses who won't cough up $20-$30 to try a couple of these for them selves in order to form an informed opinion. Instead they rather come here and spout off about something they have no experience with and then tell us how stupid and cheap we are


Let me apologize for being such a crack up.  I can be just as big of a cheap ass as the next guy, but I didn't think they were all that cheap at $20 a pop, when a proven factory version can be had for $32 a pop.  Don't forget - a lot of people, like myself, stocked up on Glock factory mags last year before the price increase - when G17/G19 mags were around $12-13 each and G18 mags were $19.

If the korean G18 mags were closer to $10 or less, they'd be a much better deal for my cheap ass.  If Midway holds their dealer price below $15 when they finally get them in, I'll buy a few just for the experience.
4/13/2009 12:11:10 PM EDT
[#5]
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Try one or two, if they suck don't buy more. I'm pretty happy with the KCI's myself and they have worked 100% so far.

I agree. I crack up at the people who want to say those of us who stepped up to try these are being cheap. IMO, they are the cheap asses who won't cough up $20-$30 to try a couple of these for them selves in order to form an informed opinion. Instead they rather come here and spout off about something they have no experience with and then tell us how stupid and cheap we are


Let me apologize for being such a crack up.  I can be just as big of a cheap ass as the next guy, but I didn't think they were all that cheap at $20 a pop, when a proven factory version can be had for $32 a pop.  Don't forget - a lot of people, like myself, stocked up on Glock factory mags last year before the price increase - when G17/G19 mags were around $12-13 each and G18 mags were $19.

If the korean G18 mags were closer to $10 or less, they'd be a much better deal for my cheap ass.  If Midway holds their dealer price below $15 when they finally get them in, I'll buy a few just for the experience.


44mag had the 17s for $11 a few days ago.

edit: $10, closeout, in stock.
4/20/2009 3:24:38 PM EDT
[#6]
I received my G18 mags from Cope's, who I would like to note does not rip Alaskans off for shipping.  I love USPS Flat rate...


So far they look pretty good.  I would have pics but my children have absconded with the camera, so I will just have to make do.

They feel sturdy.  I did not notice any flash on the inside, the tubes look good and smooth, and the only difference at first glance is that they do not feel as smooth as Glock Mags.  This makes for an odd observation.  When empty, the mag did not want to drop free, but does when it is full.  A light sanding would alleviate the problem.  In a 33+ round mag I an not all that hung up on it, but comp guys would probably be tweaked at the slowdown.  I did not notice any swelling of the mag when I loaded it.  My Glock 33rd mags all have a slight rattle when loaded, the Kahn does not.  

Upon closer inspection it seems that the primary difference between the two is that the metal lining is made of a chromed steel rather than the (what appears to be anyhow) stainless of the Glock Mags.  THe metal liner also seems slightly thicker in the Kahn Mags.

I hand cycled a few rounds in my glock and Sub2k.  The mag dod not feed up on the 2k at about round 15 or so, I racked the gun harder and it popped up and continued to feed.  I loaded the mag again and fell it completely though by hand in the sub2k without any issue other than a cramped indexfinger from handcycling that thing, it's recoil spring is something else. I also noticed that the feed lips are sharper and tend to cut on the brass some.  It seemed easier to press the round down than with a regular Glock made, but the sharp lips made it harder to slide the round into place, so loading seems to be a bit of a draw.  

I bought 5 for my sub2k, which is one of my goofoff guns.  They seem alright, but time will tell.


ETA: I managed to squeeze 34 rounds into it.

Also, please forgive any errors or anything.  I am trying to swap shifts and am somewhat uncaffeinated.
4/20/2009 6:42:17 PM EDT
[#7]
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I received my G18 mags from Cope's, who I would like to note does not rip Alaskans off for shipping.  I love USPS Flat rate...


So far they look pretty good.  I would have pics but my children have absconded with the camera, so I will just have to make do.

They feel sturdy.  I did not notice any flash on the inside, the tubes look good and smooth, and the only difference at first glance is that they do not feel as smooth as Glock Mags.  This makes for an odd observation.  When empty, the mag did not want to drop free, but does when it is full.  A light sanding would alleviate the problem.  In a 33+ round mag I an not all that hung up on it, but comp guys would probably be tweaked at the slowdown.  I did not notice any swelling of the mag when I loaded it.  My Glock 33rd mags all have a slight rattle when loaded, the Kahn does not.  

Upon closer inspection it seems that the primary difference between the two is that the metal lining is made of a chromed steel rather than the (what appears to be anyhow) stainless of the Glock Mags.  THe metal liner also seems slightly thicker in the Kahn Mags.

I hand cycled a few rounds in my glock and Sub2k.  The mag dod not feed up on the 2k at about round 15 or so, I racked the gun harder and it popped up and continued to feed.  I loaded the mag again and fell it completely though by hand in the sub2k without any issue other than a cramped indexfinger from handcycling that thing, it's recoil spring is something else. I also noticed that the feed lips are sharper and tend to cut on the brass some.  It seemed easier to press the round down than with a regular Glock made, but the sharp lips made it harder to slide the round into place, so loading seems to be a bit of a draw.  

I bought 5 for my sub2k, which is one of my goofoff guns.  They seem alright, but time will tell.


ETA: I managed to squeeze 34 rounds into it.

Also, please forgive any errors or anything.  I am trying to swap shifts and am somewhat uncaffeinated.


How well does the follower engage the slide stop?
Here's a pic of a noted problem with Khan G17 mags.  Of course, if you've got 30+ rounds on tap, I guess you really don't care much about slide lock-back.  
4/20/2009 7:06:50 PM EDT
[#8]
I took apart my gun and looked and it had more bite on the slide stop than that pic shows.  It seems to have the same amount of grab on it as the one 10rd Glock mag I have empty.


4/21/2009 3:52:36 AM EDT
[#9]
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I took apart my gun and looked and it had more bite on the slide stop than that pic shows.  It seems to have the same amount of grab on it as the one 10rd Glock mag I have empty.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/yekimak/Photo84.jpg


Thanks for taking the pic.  It looks like the left side of the mag isn't rolled in as far on the G18 mags, so the follower isn't pushed over to the right like it is on the G17 mags.  I might have to pick up a few of these mags just because it pisses off all the right people.

4/21/2009 5:44:33 AM EDT
[#10]
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I took apart my gun and looked and it had more bite on the slide stop than that pic shows.  It seems to have the same amount of grab on it as the one 10rd Glock mag I have empty.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/yekimak/Photo84.jpg


Thanks for taking the pic.  It looks like the left side of the mag isn't rolled in as far on the G18 mags, so the follower isn't pushed over to the right like it is on the G17 mags.  I might have to pick up a few of these mags just because it pisses off all the right LEFT people.



I fixed it for ya
5/10/2009 4:51:04 PM EDT
[#11]
I was directed here by yekimak from the tacked thread on these Korean mags.

I have been buying Glock 9mm mags since September 13, 2004 so I have plenty of factory Glock magazines.  I bought factory G18 mags at what I believe was their lowest retail on-line price of $22.50 from Wideners which was a little more than a year ago.  So I didn't need more G18 mags, I just wanted them.  

I opened two packages of the Kahn G18 mags.  The metal liner is shinier than on Glock factory mags.  It looks like it's stainless steel but I didn't do any metallurgical analysis:





I filled one the night before and one just before shooting today with WWB 9mm.  They do feel stiffer to load than Glock factory mags but I can load them with 33 rounds:



My friend shot one mag:



and I shot the other.  No problems.  It did lock back on the last round in both mags:


I'm not endorsing the Kahn mags, just letting you know what I did with them today.


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