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12/31/2025 11:29:38 PM EDT
Does anyone make a 10mm FMJ going at 1150fps or better? Looking really for a true 1200 fps FMJ for fun. Magtech claims it. Not sure if it gets there. And fiochi and sig crown. But can’t find any real chrono data…
1/1/2026 12:08:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thebert][Edited] [#1]
Everything I read about the Sig 180 fmj's says they are the real deal. 1250 fps. I also Have some Winchester USA Ready that is supposed to also be 1250 fps.
Of course barrel length will have an effect. What barrel length are you using? I have a S&W 1006 that I launch mine from.
1/1/2026 12:50:56 AM EDT
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Buffalo bore?  Grizzly Ammo?
1/1/2026 1:05:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: blt-2-drg][Edited] [#3]
Underwood 180gr FMJ claims 1250 fps and seems to be pretty verified in reviews I've seen online and youtube.

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1/1/2026 1:59:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Nick_Adams][Edited] [#4]
Originally Posted By DOG556:
Does anyone make a 10mm FMJ going at 1150fps or better? Looking really for a true 1200 fps FMJ for fun. Magtech claims it. Not sure if it gets there. And Fiocchi and sig crown. But can’t find any real chrono data…
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MagTech's 180grn 10mm ammo is "box-flapped" at 1230fps but the 10-shots over my Garmin averaged under 1200fps. Fiocchi's 180grn FMJ is spec-ed at 1250fps, but averaged slightly less, so not bad. Haven't chronographed the Sig 180grn stuff, but I have shot it. Sig claims 1250fps for this load and the couple of mags I fired felt hotter than the Fiocchi and for sure the MagTech.

I also tested Underwood's 180grn Range Supply Ammo and Winchester's 180grn "USA Ready" ammo. Both averaged above the claimed box-flap spec of 1250fps. Out of my 5" Sig P220, the Underwood averaged 1262fps for 10-shots. The Winchester ammo averaged 1253fps. Both were accurate as well.









1/1/2026 2:09:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Nick_Adams][Edited] [#5]
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Originally Posted By thebert:
Everything I read about the Sig 180 fmj's says they are the real deal. 1250 fps. I also Have some Winchester USA Ready that is supposed to also be 1250 fps. Of course barrel length will have an effect. What barrel length are you using? I have a S&W 1006 that I launch mine from.
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Correct, barrel length does matter.

Remember, the two original Norma 10mm loads were developed and standardized from 5" test-barrel fixtures in order to reach Dornaus & Dixon's (and Jeff Cooper's) desired ballistic goal from the 5" production barrels of 10mm Bren Ten pistols.

That's why I use a 10mm pistol with a 5" barrel when vetting an ammo-maker's "box-flap" velocity claim. Most makers do use a 5" factory test-barrel fixture (e.g., Hornady) although some makers (DT, UW, and BB) use real-world pistols of different barrel lengths. They also tell you (on their websites, typically) what gun got what velocities with the particular ammo.
1/1/2026 2:55:20 PM EDT
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Awesome. Thanks
1/2/2026 1:27:24 AM EDT
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When I tested the Sig awhile back at 50F we were hitting 1,276 fps  from a 4.5" barrel:
10mm Auto (10x25mm), 180gr FMJ, @sigsauerinc (E10MB1), Velocity Test

1/2/2026 8:15:58 AM EDT
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Has anyone tested the new Federal "black pack" 10MM?  I bought some recently but no chronograph.  But it felt pretty decent, comparable to magtech imo.
1/2/2026 8:18:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DOG556][Edited] [#9]
1300 fps

https://underwoodammo.com/10mm-auto-180gr.-full-metal-jacket-flat-nose-full-metal-jacket-hunting-ammo/




https://underwoodammo.com/10mm-auto-200gr.-full-metal-jacket-flat-nose-full-metal-jacket-hunting-ammo/
1/2/2026 11:02:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DOG556:
https://underwoodammo.com/10mm-auto-200gr.-full-metal-jacket-flat-nose-full-metal-jacket-hunting-ammo/
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Underwood’s been showing out of stock for the 200grn FMJ ammo for a while now.

Shame too, because it’s the real deal for that bullet-weight. My P220 loved it.
1/2/2026 11:46:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TNC][Edited] [#11]
Here's data I collected a while back from a glock 20. Looks like the Sig, Federal 180 bonded, and Buffalo Bore 180 all do 1200+

I have more recent data I've not added to this spreadsheet yet, I settled on 200 grain Underwood hardcast for my bear load. It's hot enough I had to replace the factory 17 lb recoil spring in my glock with a 22 lb spring.

ETA: I concluded Underwood is the most likely manufacturer to produce truly hot 10mm

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1/2/2026 5:12:03 PM EDT
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Both of the below out of a 4.7" Tanfoglio Defiant

Out of Stock currently. Hard to beat price. $345.00 @1000rd case, $17.25@ 50rd box - NEW "New Republic" brass

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/new-republic-training-range-10-mm-ammunition-180-grain-full-metal-jacket-p-114120.aspx

Chrono Results: Nov 2025 @ 50 degrees
Average velocity1142.9 FPS
Minimum velocity1121.7 FPS
Maximum velocity1152.6 FPS
Standard deviation9
Extreme spread30.8
Average power factor205.7 KGR-FT/S
Average kinetic energy522.0 FT/LBS

Fenix Ammo $121.88 @ 250rds. NEW "Extreme" brass

Out of Stock also
https://fenixammo.com/collections/10mm-auto/products/10mm-auto-180gr-fmj

Chrono Nov 2025 @ 40.3 degrees
Average velocity1171.8 FPS
Minimum velocity1148.3 FPS
Maximum velocity1205.4 FPS
Standard deviation14.1
Extreme spread57.1
Average power factor210.9 KGR-FT/S
Average kinetic energy548.8 FT/LBS


1/2/2026 5:26:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Buffman_LT1:
When I tested the Sig awhile back at 50F we were hitting 1,276 fps  from a 4.5" barrel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwpTtD0x3WQ
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Came to post basically this /\ Sig makes very good 10mm ammo
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1/6/2026 11:30:19 PM EDT
[#14]
https://underwoodammo.com/10mm-auto-180gr.-full-metal-jacket-flat-nose-full-metal-jacket-hunting-ammo/


Got these.
1/12/2026 7:16:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DOG556][Edited] [#15]
The original Norma 10mm loading that started this thing!..
https://rangehot.com/original-10mm-ammo-made-ffv-norma-ab-·s-670-40-amotfors-sweden/

Underwood now makes this exact loading!…

https://underwoodammo.com/10mm-auto-200gr.-full-metal-jacket-flat-nose-full-metal-jacket-hunting-ammo/
4/1/2026 4:08:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DOG556][Edited] [#16]
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Originally Posted By Nick_Adams:
Underwood’s been showing out of stock for the 200grn FMJ ammo for a while now.

Shame too, because it’s the real deal for that bullet-weight. My P220 loved it.
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https://underwoodammo.com/10mm-auto-200gr.-full-metal-jacket-flat-nose-full-metal-jacket-hunting-ammo/

As of today underwood has discontinued that load

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