Originally Posted By MoonDancer:
Tagged for any answers.  I've been wondering this for awhile.  It's my funeral, but I've been carrying these in my micro and sub-compact carry guns for a few years.

Originally Posted By Kokodude:
I'm guessing there would be some lawsuits or court cases involving them.
It seems like something a lawyer would use to try and prove intent to kill.

Originally Posted By Kokodude:
I'm guessing there would be some lawsuits or court cases involving them.
It seems like something a lawyer would use to try and prove intent to kill.

Originally Posted By sparkyfender2:In the Harold Fish trial, the facts that he used a 10mm handgun and hollow point bullets were brought up in his successful prosecution.

I consider the Controlled Fracturing to be the ULTIMATE self-defense bullet and the 9mm 115 grain Controlled Fracturing is what I carry daily.

Originally Posted By dump1567:
I can't comment on the ammo you mentioned, but I just finished Bill Wilson's new book. And he carries the Lehigh Controlled Fracturing 9mm ammo.

He hunts & shoots deer or hogs every day on his ranch. And has done countless testing on these rounds. including taking hogs with it. It looks like good stuff, but at $2.50 a round, I'll stick to HST (which he's also a fan of).

9MM | 115GR, LEHIGH DEFENSE CF +P, 20/BOX

Originally Posted By dmk0210:
Doesn't Bill Wilson own Lehigh?

Originally Posted By swampvol:
Not the question you asked, but I run the 380 +p version in my LCP Max because HPs suck in 380.
There are too many good HPs in 9mm to warrant the extra cost of the XDs in that caliber, in my opinion.

SOLID METAL FLUID TRANSFER (FLUTED) SUMMARY


Solid metal fluid transfer (fluted) bullets are non-expanding. Their designed destructive
mechanism is contact tearing and fluid transfer. Since they are solid and don’t expand about the
only failure is tumbling which stops the designed fluid transfer. A tumbling round of this type will
create a substantially smaller wound diameter and also less deep penetration than a functional
projectile. As stated earlier some hollow points are made exclusively of copper but their design
(expansion) remains the same and those rounds are discussed in the hollow point section.

These non-deforming rounds are designed to use a specific technology to create a larger wound
cavity than FMJ or hollow point bullets. Tearing and hydraulic constriction, tissue redirection
(fluid transfer) are the two mechanisms used to create larger wounds. Because gel is non-
compressible and human tissue is compressible wound channels from these rounds are larger in
gel tests than in tissue tests. This makes the use of animal tissue in testing required because gel is
used not as a tissue simulant but rather a consistent media. With solid metal rounds, due to their
design use of constriction, testing in a non-compressible liquid (gel) creates unrealistically large
wound channels. If only gel was used then solid metal rounds would appear to be an order of
magnitude better than all hollow points.

Tissue is liquified by the bullet shock wave and by impact. The radial flutes increase liquified
tissue velocity because liquid is non-compressible. The flutes constrict the fluid described by the
Venturi Effect using Bernoulli’s Principle to increase velocity and direct the tissue outward to
impact and destroy adjacent tissue not being contacted by the projectile itself, increasing wound
diameter. With the increased velocity of the transfer fluid (castoff speed) almost four times higher
than static, the fluid impacting the adjacent tissue is fast enough to tear that tissue. This is fluid
transfer, not energy transfer. Many testers wondered if vectoring high speed liquified tissue
sideways into tissue would actually destroy that adjacent tissue that is not directly being impacted
by the projectile. Remember that a hollow point opens the same way. Hollow points do not open
because of friction, they open because tissue fills the hollow point cavity, gets crushed into a liquid
(instantaneous) and then pushes outward, tearing and bending the metal petals. Once the petals
are pushed outward the pressure is released and then friction takes over causing the continued
opening to complete the expansion. If liquified tissue can create a pressure to the point of tearing
and bending metal (hollow point) then higher speed liquified tissue can certainly destroy tissue.
For those who think this will only work in a non-compressible fluid like gel, it was confirmed that
this technology works extremely well in actual animal tissue with or without barriers. In every
tissue test and forensic report with these rounds the wound diameters far exceed the actual diameter
of the projectile. Animal tissue tests confirmed that in over 200 shots the measured wound channel
was not only larger than that of an FMJ but in most cases was the largest wound channel produced
in that caliber compared to all other rounds to include fully functioning hollow points. Human
forensic exams conclusively show larger than caliber wound holes.

There are several main characteristics to the solid metal fluid transfer rounds performance….
Amount of liquified tissue (caliber), focus of that tissue into a jet, and pointed away from the bullet
(flute design) and velocity. The faster any solid metal round goes the larger the wound diameter.
We tested the same 9mm projectile in .380, standard pressure 9, 9+P, 9+P+ and the 357 Sig in
multiple tests in gel and tissue. That’s 5 of the exact same projectiles with the only difference
being velocity (pressure). The wound channel size always increased with velocity. Unlike hollow
points which are designed for a certain impact velocity to best perform as designed, solid metal
(fluted) rounds always work better when faster.

1. Penetration. All solid metal (fluted) rounds in all calibers tested penetrated 15 – 20 inches with
and without barriers.

2. Reliability and Consistency. Every single shot did roughly the same thing. There were few
recorded instances of tumbling, a 0% chance of failure to expand, and no chance to fragment.
These were the most reliable and consistent rounds tested at over 95% reliability.

3. Barrier Performance. The solid copper rounds and FMJs were the most barrier blind rounds
tested. Not only did barriers not deflect the round it didn’t change the wound diameter much and
only slightly reduced penetration depth. Solid metal barrier degradation was approximately 5%
vs light domestic barriers.

4. Permanent Wound Cavity. In the realistic animal tissue tests these rounds produced the largest
wound areas and with the incredible penetration depth exhibited in the gel tests they recorded the
largest overall PWC in all calibers. Data from the IWBA gelatin tests show results with enormous
wound diameters. The radial flutes work perfectly in fluid/gel. As noted, the PWC numbers are
inflated in the gel tests due to non-compressible gel, but the penetration depths are more realistic
to compare. Calculated PWCs in all medias and forensic reports are the largest ever recorded in
all calibers.

Overall, the solid metal fluid transfer (fluted) rounds are very impressive if deep consistent
penetration is desired. They exhibit great reliability and have the largest permanent wound cavity
of any of the five bullet types.