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Posted: 10/9/2024 7:45:34 AM EST
I'm gathering all the stuff I need to sit down in front the bench this weekend.

I've got some 250 grain plated bullets and a few pounds of Blue Dot, Unique, and Power Pistol.

Does anyone have a favorite load that can be used in the various SAA clones?
Link Posted: 10/9/2024 8:15:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: d4xycrq] [#1]
8.5 gr of Unique has been a go-to.   But I can’t vouch for that load with plated bullets.  Once the plated bullets are in the backstop, shift to cast.
Link Posted: 10/9/2024 8:38:50 AM EST
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I worked up loads for my Taylor/Uberti SAA clone using my own home cast and PC'd 255gr rnfp bullets using, in no particular order: AA#5, Titegroup, Universal, Unique, Win 231, Bullseye and Sport Pistol

I also have Blue Dot, 2400, Power Pistol, BE-86 and a few others but, aside from the BE-86 and probably the Power Pistol, I don't think the others were particularly suited to my goal of generic factory level performance.

7gr of 231 was my 2nd best load: very accurate, clean burning and economical.

7.5 gr of Unique was #1; probably a little better accuracy than 231 and still economical but, surprisingly very clean which was somewhat unexpected given it's old nickname of "flammable dirt".

In the end I settled on 7gr of 231 because I have 12lbs of it and I'm down to 4lbs of Unique.

Honorable mention goes to AA#5: decent accuracy, reasonably clean and, currently, probably the least expensive.

I absolutely hate Titegroup for anything. I've yet to find anything it good for except for heating up my guns and scorching my brass.
Link Posted: 10/9/2024 8:53:58 AM EST
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One of my favorite 45 colt loads is a full case of 3F black - impressive smoke and flame when fired- you get a lot of wide eyed looks from other shooters on the line when you touch one off for sure.


For smokeless I have found the 45 colt to be not very picky and seems to shoot well regardless of load. My general method of reloading for the last 40 or so years which hasn’t failed me yet:

Go to an established source of data ( powder or bullet website or printed manual)
If a given load advises for example a minimum of 5 and a max of 7 I load with 6 ( exactly in the middle) and if the gun and load shoot well enough I stop right there.
Link Posted: 10/9/2024 9:04:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By captain127:

...Go to an established source of data ( powder or bullet website or printed manual) If a given load advises for example a minimum of 5 and a max of 7 I load with 6 ( exactly in the middle) and if the gun and load shoot well enough I stop right there.
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To be honest, I've done this exact same thing for the majority of my 30+ years of pistol cartridge reloading (rifles are a different situation IMHO) and it's worked very well.
Link Posted: 10/9/2024 9:27:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: Colt653] [#5]
forget plated

get some cast & coated with a nice crimp groove

I like Unique, Universal, and win231



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Link Posted: 10/9/2024 11:59:06 PM EST
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8.5 gr Universal under a 250 SWC is a stout but safe load I’ve been shooting in four Ubertis and a pair of Rugers for about 20 years.  For a lighter load I have had success with 7.5 gr of Universal under a 200 gr flatnose cast bullet.
Link Posted: 10/10/2024 1:19:44 AM EST
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I’ve used anywhere from 7.0 to 8.5 grains of Unique with a 250gr cast bullet.  Out of Unique now and have loaded with Winchester 244.  7.4gr I think, but I’d have to go look at it to be sure.
Link Posted: 10/10/2024 5:32:18 AM EST
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40gr of 3F black powder.
Link Posted: 10/10/2024 11:47:06 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/11/2024 8:06:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: Tommytornado] [#10]
I love 8.0 grains of Unique.  But I haven't seen any for sale for years now.  I still have about 4 pounds but it is going fast.
Link Posted: 10/11/2024 9:48:06 PM EST
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I’m using Hodgdon CFE because it’s plentiful in my area and works well for my other calibers (9mm, 45acp, 38 special).  I’m just getting into loading for 45 colt so I don’t have any advice regarding that but I can let you know after I group my loads with 250 case boolits with 8.7 grains of CFE behind it.
Link Posted: 10/11/2024 10:18:09 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/11/2024 10:20:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Semper_Firearms:
I’m using Hodgdon CFE because it’s plentiful in my area ....
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I've been using it more also, in 9mm, because it's usually cheaper and in stock.

Link Posted: 10/12/2024 9:00:49 AM EST
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Sometime this winter I think I'm going to work up a 270gr load over be86. I'm out of unique and almost out of true blue with 8lbs of be86 waiting in line. It's my favorite. 45acp and .38spc powder so I'm looking forward to it.
Link Posted: 10/14/2024 1:26:02 PM EST
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I started with the published data out of the Hornady manual. 7.4 grains of Unique.

Recoil was mild and the cases had a fair amount of carbon on the exterior. I might increase the amount of the taper crimp on the cartridge.

And my Cimmaron is shooting about 4" to the right.


Link Posted: 10/14/2024 2:48:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By samurai77:
I started with the published data out of the Hornady manual. 7.4 grains of Unique.

Recoil was mild and the cases had a fair amount of carbon on the exterior. I might increase the amount of the taper crimp on the cartridge.

And my Cimmaron is shooting about 4" to the right.


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If you have the means, a roll crimp is probably going to be better suited to the .45 Colt.

Link Posted: 10/14/2024 3:51:56 PM EST
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I actually mis wrote! I'm using RCBS carbide dies which only do roll crimps.

I'm going to increase the amount of crimp on the next batch of rounds.
Link Posted: 10/14/2024 4:14:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By samurai77:
I actually mis wrote! I'm using RCBS carbide dies which only do roll crimps.

I'm going to increase the amount of crimp on the next batch of rounds.
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Gotcha.
Good luck.

As an aside, if I ever find any Red Dot (I don't buy HazMat online, at least not yet) I'm going to try that in .45 colt.

Doing my own research on load data  that's a powder that seems to have a great reputation in the big Colt cartridge.
Link Posted: 10/14/2024 10:13:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Y-T71:

Gotcha.
Good luck.

As an aside, if I ever find any Red Dot (I don't buy HazMat online, at least not yet) I'm going to try that in .45 colt.

Doing my own research on load data  that's a powder that seems to have a great reputation in the big Colt cartridge.
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You would be correct, sir. Red Dot and 700-X are two fantastic powders for reproducing the original load with a 250 gr. bullet. 6.2-6.3 gr. of Red Dot or about the same of 700-X and cast bullets in the 250-255 gr. range have been very good loads for me.
Link Posted: 10/15/2024 3:03:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ggibbs:


You would be correct, sir. Red Dot and 700-X are two fantastic powders for reproducing the original load with a 250 gr. bullet. 6.2-6.3 gr. of Red Dot or about the same of 700-X and cast bullets in the 250-255 gr. range have been very good loads for me.
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Wish I would've picked up some when it was still available (and a lot less $$!) but I probably have 25 different powders in my shelf and I guess I didn't feel the pressing need to add even more.

Link Posted: 10/15/2024 10:40:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By samurai77:
I started with the published data out of the Hornady manual. 7.4 grains of Unique.

Recoil was mild and the cases had a fair amount of carbon on the exterior. I might increase the amount of the taper crimp on the cartridge.

And my Cimmaron is shooting about 4" to the right.


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Soot/carbon on the exterior of the case is indicative of low pressure, that is, chamber pressure isn't sufficient enough to expand the mouth of the case so it will seal the chamber.
Link Posted: 10/17/2024 6:06:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
Sometime this winter I think I'm going to work up a 270gr load over be86. I'm out of unique and almost out of true blue with 8lbs of be86 waiting in line. It's my favorite. 45acp and .38spc powder so I'm looking forward to it.
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Make a post when you do.
I went and ordered 8lbs myself with the exact intention as you.
I have 1 pound of Unique left.
I intend to just use 250 bullets though.
Link Posted: 10/20/2024 7:10:39 PM EST
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You guys kill me with these 45 Colt setups.  Here I set, perfectly content with 44 Special and 45 ACP and you have to splash around all these hot pictures and load data…..
Link Posted: 10/20/2024 9:39:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By compuvette:
You guys kill me with these 45 Colt setups.  Here I set, perfectly content with 44 Special and 45 ACP and you have to splash around all these hot pictures and load data…..
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As someone who owns quite a few revolvers in both calibers, trust me, you're much better off with the .44 Special.
Link Posted: 10/20/2024 10:05:23 PM EST
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