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6/18/2018 4:51:02 PM EDT


Test Gun: Sig P229, Kahr MK9.
Barrel length: 3.9, 3 inches.
Ammunition: Federal 9mm 147gr HST.
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: PACT 1 XP with inferred sky screens.
Five shot velocity average: 967, 916fps
Gel Temperature 71 degrees.

This is the fourth installment and probably last with the 9mm HST line. Here is a link to the other 9mm HST rounds I tested.

http://www.general-cartridge.com/blog/federal-9mm-124grp-hst-in-clear-ballistics-gel

http://www.general-cartridge.com/blog/federal-9mm-124gr-hst1-in-clear-ballistics-gel

http://www.general-cartridge.com/blog/federal-9mm-hst-147gr-p-in-clear-ballistics-gel

I got an average velocity of 967fps out of the P229 with a high of 975fps and a low of 953fps.



I switch back to my Kahr for the short barrel testing and got an average velocity of 916fps with a high of 929fps and a low of 893fps.



In the bare gel, out the P229 the first round had a velocity of 966fps and penetrated to 15.25 inches and had a recovered diameter of .67 inches. Round two hit at a velocity of 976fps expanded to .65 inches and also penetrated to 15.25 inches.



In heaving clothing covered gel, the first round had a velocity of 976fps, penetrated to 19 inches and expanded to .65 inches. The second round had a velocity of 962fps expanded to .62 inches and penetrated to 16.25 inches.



Out of the Kahr in the bare gel, the first round hit at a velocity of 922fps, penetrated to 16.25 inches and expanded to .65 inches. round two traveled at a velocity of 914fps, also penetrated to 16.25 inches and expanded to .63 inches.



http://www.general-cartridge.com/
www.general-cartridge.com
6/18/2018 5:10:59 PM EDT
[#1]
Excellent round.
If tyranny and oppression come to this land it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. " James Madison".
6/18/2018 6:57:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Cool, thanks OP.
6/18/2018 8:11:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Beautiful expansion.
6/18/2018 8:58:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Love HST's.

Good job, OP.
Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you.
6/18/2018 9:45:47 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks OP. My preferred carry round. Good info.
6/18/2018 10:26:16 PM EDT
[#6]
I’ve always been partial to Gold Dots but damn, those HST’s do not fuck around.
Everyone please read this carefully. Eric802 is correct. - DK-Prof, 1/27/15

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6/19/2018 1:22:13 PM EDT
[#7]
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Originally Posted By ban-hater:
Cool, thanks OP.
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6/19/2018 9:55:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Thanks for the tests

This is my round of choice. Shoots and performs well in a variety of barrel lengths
6/20/2018 4:46:06 AM EDT
[#9]
Great test. These seem to penetrate more and expand more than just about everything else.
6/20/2018 11:23:47 AM EDT
[#10]
I would argue that the HST turned the 9mm in to a great caliber, rather than just adequate.
6/22/2018 6:45:39 PM EDT
[#11]
My go to round. I do have 124 gr HST on hand, too, though.
Make sure you tell guys that the 1911 is a pain in the ass - Larry Vickers
6/22/2018 11:00:51 PM EDT
[#12]
That's my round!
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." Michael Jordan
6/25/2018 10:48:29 PM EDT
[#13]
Looks good!
6/26/2018 1:58:13 AM EDT
[#14]
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Originally Posted By Johnsonboy11:
That's my round!
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Yup, best stuff out there right now.
7/11/2018 7:14:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 22caliberKIDD:

Yup, best stuff out there right now.
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Agreed
7/12/2018 10:14:02 AM EDT
[#16]
Anybody know the velocity of these out of a slightly longer barrel ( G17) ?
9/19/2019 11:51:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kev10mm:
Great test. These seem to penetrate more and expand more than just about everything else.
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The 180Gn .40 version is great too
9/19/2019 11:57:29 AM EDT
[#18]
This is why I carry this round in all my 9mm's.
9/20/2019 1:37:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Taskmaster86][Edited] [#19]
124 and 147 grain HST's are the best!

The bullets expand the same or even slightly larger AND penetrate deeper after passing through clothing that most other hollow point designs choke on.

If you aren't at least considering carrying these, you are dumb.
9/20/2019 7:21:21 AM EDT
[#20]
Nice thanks.
9/20/2019 7:26:26 AM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By Eric802:
I’ve always been partial to Gold Dots but damn, those HST’s do not fuck around.
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Same here.

I might have to load a few of these up on the press for shtf.
10/6/2019 5:26:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Which HST grain for 43x? Short barrel makes a difference I’m assuming?
10/6/2019 5:43:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sogan:
Which HST grain for 43x? Short barrel makes a difference I’m assuming?
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Probably different for the 43x, but some people say that the 43 doesn't like the longer 147g HSTs
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10/6/2019 6:19:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sogan:
Which HST grain for 43x? Short barrel makes a difference I'm assuming?
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Performance wise 147 will do fine. In fact, it seems to be more consistent with different barrel lengths. As mentioned, you just have to make sure your gun will feed it.
Make sure you tell guys that the 1911 is a pain in the ass - Larry Vickers
10/6/2019 8:26:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swampvol:
Probably different for the 43x, but some people say that the 43 doesn't like the longer 147g HSTs
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Originally Posted By swampvol:
Originally Posted By Sogan:
Which HST grain for 43x? Short barrel makes a difference I’m assuming?
Probably different for the 43x, but some people say that the 43 doesn't like the longer 147g HSTs
Only issue I’ve encountered is administrative unloading of the chambered round

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