High round count pistols (100,000+) observations (Page 15 of 20)
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Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Don't you know? The best pistol the military ever used was the LAST one they used. |
| So after reading through this thread, it appears that all of these guns are very reliable and will out last most people that aren't throwing 20k+ rounds through their pistol. Is there any gun that stands out as being worse/better than the rest? Or all they all great and tend to eventually breakdown after many 1000s of rounds? |
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Well, it appears that Glock has addressed the issue with the ring on the front of the slide with the Gen5s. Comparing the two, the Gen5 is noticeably thicker.
Sucks as I just got a Gen4 slide milled for an RMR. But even if it lasts "only" 30,000 rounds, it's still a good bit of service/life. |
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Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Well, it appears that Glock has addressed the issue with the ring on the front of the slide with the Gen5s. Comparing the two, the Gen5 is noticeably thicker. Sucks as I just got a Gen4 slide milled for an RMR. But even if it lasts "only" 30,000 rounds, it's still a good bit of service/life. If anybody outside of Battlefield Vegas worries about the durability of a Gen 4 GLock, then I'm curious as to what they are doing and how deep their pockets are to afford ammo like that. It is nice Glock has addressed this, but that has an effect on me about as much as changing the speed limit on the main road at Ice Station Zebra. |
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Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Well, it appears that Glock has addressed the issue with the ring on the front of the slide with the Gen5s. Comparing the two, the Gen5 is noticeably thicker. Sucks as I just got a Gen4 slide milled for an RMR. But even if it lasts "only" 30,000 rounds, it's still a good bit of service/life. |
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Originally Posted By DanW:
So now the Gen 5 won't break at 110,000 rounds? Nice! If anybody outside of Battlefield Vegas worries about the durability of a Gen 4 GLock, then I'm curious as to what they are doing and how deep their pockets are to afford ammo like that. It is nice Glock has addressed this, but that has an effect on me about as much as changing the speed limit on the main road at Ice Station Zebra. Originally Posted By DanW:
Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Well, it appears that Glock has addressed the issue with the ring on the front of the slide with the Gen5s. Comparing the two, the Gen5 is noticeably thicker. Sucks as I just got a Gen4 slide milled for an RMR. But even if it lasts "only" 30,000 rounds, it's still a good bit of service/life. If anybody outside of Battlefield Vegas worries about the durability of a Gen 4 GLock, then I'm curious as to what they are doing and how deep their pockets are to afford ammo like that. It is nice Glock has addressed this, but that has an effect on me about as much as changing the speed limit on the main road at Ice Station Zebra. |
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Originally Posted By Adam-Wayne:
Can you take some pictures? Originally Posted By Adam-Wayne:
Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Well, it appears that Glock has addressed the issue with the ring on the front of the slide with the Gen5s. Comparing the two, the Gen5 is noticeably thicker. Sucks as I just got a Gen4 slide milled for an RMR. But even if it lasts "only" 30,000 rounds, it's still a good bit of service/life. |
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Originally Posted By Adam-Wayne:
Can you take some pictures? Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Bradd_D:
Not my guns. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2261/download-298217.JPG Originally Posted By Bradd_D:
Originally Posted By Adam-Wayne:
Can you take some pictures? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2261/download-298217.JPG |
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Originally Posted By WILSON:
This. I'm trying to figger' out what area he's talking about - never knew there was an issue... Originally Posted By WILSON:
Originally Posted By Adam-Wayne:
Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Well, it appears that Glock has addressed the issue with the ring on the front of the slide with the Gen5s. Comparing the two, the Gen5 is noticeably thicker. Sucks as I just got a Gen4 slide milled for an RMR. But even if it lasts "only" 30,000 rounds, it's still a good bit of service/life. Henderson apparently has been having more Gen 4s lately crack in the front area of the slide like this. 
It was at much lower round counts than their other Gen 4s, so I think it was probably a batch of slides or something. Still, I like older guide rod and slide design. |
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Originally Posted By Adam-Wayne:
It was at much lower round counts than their other Gen 4s, so I think it was probably a batch of slides or something. |
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Originally Posted By Adam-Wayne:
When they went from Gen 3 to Gen 4 and increased the diameter of the recoil guide rod assembly, they had to change the size of the hole on the slide as well. Henderson apparently has been having more Gen 4s lately crack in the front area of the slide like this. http://i.imgur.com/XIgppci.jpg It was at much lower round counts than their other Gen 4s, so I think it was probably a batch of slides or something. Still, I like older guide rod and slide design. |
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Hey, thanks for these threads! I've read the AR one front to back and really appreciate it.
I was wondering if you've had any Glock pistols suffer cracks at the breach face? |
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Originally Posted By AS556:
How long are the 9mm Gen 3s going? Originally Posted By AS556:
Originally Posted By Adam-Wayne:
When they went from Gen 3 to Gen 4 and increased the diameter of the recoil guide rod assembly, they had to change the size of the hole on the slide as well. Henderson apparently has been having more Gen 4s lately crack in the front area of the slide like this. http://i.imgur.com/XIgppci.jpg It was at much lower round counts than their other Gen 4s, so I think it was probably a batch of slides or something. Still, I like older guide rod and slide design. |
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Originally Posted By gunshinestate:
I know this is off-topic but I just wanted to quickly say -I hope the Vegas people on this thread are safe after last night's shooting. |
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Originally Posted By gunshinestate:
I know this is off-topic but I just wanted to quickly say -I hope the Vegas people on this thread are safe after last night's shooting. Let us know if you are okay! |
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Originally Posted By Adam-Wayne:
When they went from Gen 3 to Gen 4 and increased the diameter of the recoil guide rod assembly, they had to change the size of the hole on the slide as well. Henderson apparently has been having more Gen 4s lately crack in the front area of the slide like this. http://i.imgur.com/XIgppci.jpg It was at much lower round counts than their other Gen 4s, so I think it was probably a batch of slides or something. Still, I like older guide rod and slide design. |
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus:
You know, things like that fatigue crack from repeated impacts. That would immediately cause me to suspect the mainspring. One can confirm this by looking at the back of that front part of the slide, and the locking block that the slide would bash against. All semi auto handguns will fail rather quickly when that happens. |
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Originally Posted By ARHank:
Me too. I heard on the scanner that Battlefield Vegas sent armored vehicles to the scene. @HendersonDefense 's last post was an hour before the shooting. Let us know if you are okay! Originally Posted By ARHank:
Originally Posted By gunshinestate:
I know this is off-topic but I just wanted to quickly say -I hope the Vegas people on this thread are safe after last night's shooting. Let us know if you are okay! 2) Henderson asked for privacy with regard to the shooting. They whole city, even the nation - is hurting following this attack. Let's try to respect that request. And this is a tech forum, so let's try to stick to discussing high-round count handguns. I personally think these "high round count" threads are among the very best on Arcom, I am grateful for all the info posted so far. |
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Originally Posted By Dominion21:
Folks - Henderson is fine; he issued a brief statement following the shooting which unequivocally stated in no uncertain terms, that: 1) there's no evidence the shooter ever set one foot in Battlefield LV or ever bought a single thing there, and 2) Henderson asked for privacy with regard to the shooting. They whole city, even the nation - is hurting following this attack. Let's try to respect that request. And this is a tech forum, so let's try to stick to discussing high-round count handguns. I personally think these "high round count" threads are among the very best on Arcom, I am grateful for all the info posted so far. Originally Posted By Dominion21:
Originally Posted By ARHank:
Originally Posted By gunshinestate:
I know this is off-topic but I just wanted to quickly say -I hope the Vegas people on this thread are safe after last night's shooting. Let us know if you are okay! 2) Henderson asked for privacy with regard to the shooting. They whole city, even the nation - is hurting following this attack. Let's try to respect that request. And this is a tech forum, so let's try to stick to discussing high-round count handguns. I personally think these "high round count" threads are among the very best on Arcom, I am grateful for all the info posted so far. |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Calm down, hero. Literally 3 people asked about it and wanted to know if they were ok. Nothing more, nothing less. Thread moved on just fine. Henderson, any Glock breach face failures? Extractors or strikers? |
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Originally Posted By bigkracka:
Calm down Francis. Henderson, any Glock breach face failures? Extractors or strikers? Originally Posted By bigkracka:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Calm down, hero. Literally 3 people asked about it and wanted to know if they were ok. Nothing more, nothing less. Thread moved on just fine. Henderson, any Glock breach face failures? Extractors or strikers? 
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Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Yeah Francis needs to calm the hell down Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Originally Posted By bigkracka:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Calm down, hero. Literally 3 people asked about it and wanted to know if they were ok. Nothing more, nothing less. Thread moved on just fine. Henderson, any Glock breach face failures? Extractors or strikers? 
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Originally Posted By WWIIWMD:
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Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Originally Posted By bigkracka:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Calm down, hero. Literally 3 people asked about it and wanted to know if they were ok. Nothing more, nothing less. Thread moved on just fine. Henderson, any Glock breach face failures? Extractors or strikers? |
Carry it, shoot it. (repeat forever)
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God Bless Texas
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Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Well, it appears that Glock has addressed the issue with the ring on the front of the slide with the Gen5s. Comparing the two, the Gen5 is noticeably thicker. Sucks as I just got a Gen4 slide milled for an RMR. But even if it lasts "only" 30,000 rounds, it's still a good bit of service/life. |
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Originally Posted By usus: |
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Wow... what a thread. Great valuable info here.
I’m very glad to hear that Glock is standing up to their warranty. I am surprised to hear of these “failures” or “breakages” though. I too am wondering if it’s just the result of a certain “batch” or “run” or a reflection of the quality in general of some of their most recent productions. I recently just chose Glock for my 2 most recent pistol purchases for their reunion and historical reliability. |
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Originally Posted By TacticalTavorian:
Also - maybe I missed it or misunderstood ... but I believe someone posed the question about these breakages possibly being due to the fact that the RSA is being replaced too soon? Any warrant or response to that notion? |
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Originally Posted By usus:
wow. you need to devote $500 or so to set up to cast bullets and progressive reload. Cause I once shot 24,000 rds in 6 weeks. :-) If you set up properly, 9mm ammo need not cost you more than 7c a shot. So 20k rds is just $1400, which is less than most smokers spend on tobacco in 6 months. I would not try to reload "in house." Too much liability and too many other things going on. What DOES Make sense is partnering with an existing remanufactued ammunition company like Black Hills and/or Atlanta arms - only closer to LV. Imagine a symbiotic relationship where all of BFLV's fired brass goes back for reloading, while BFLV enjoys greatly reduced ammunition costs. My old employer (range with a pro shop) bought Atlanta Arms remanufactued ammo. Our costs were reduced by the amount of range-brass we sent to AA. |
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Originally Posted By usus: wow. you need to devote $500 or so to set up to cast bullets and progressive reload. Cause I once shot 24,000 rds in 6 weeks. :-) If you set up properly, 9mm ammo need not cost you more than 7c a shot. So 20k rds is just $1400, which is less than most smokers spend on tobacco in 6 months. |
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This cylinder was given to me by a local range that has an S&W 340PD on the rental line.
S&W replaced the titanium cylinder and returned the worn unit. No telling how many rounds have been through this cylinder. The original frame with its new cylinder is back on the line. 
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Originally Posted By EVR:
Ron: Since adoption by the military, have requests for the SIG P320 increased? How are they holding up? |
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Originally Posted By Holes:
Hey Ron. Hope all is well with you and yours. This far I’ve mostly talked to you in the AR-15 forum. Just curious if you have or have had any .44 Magnum revolvers on the line? Thank you Ron V/R Ron |
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Originally Posted By HendersonDefense:
We have several .44 Magnums on the line. Just because of the nature of our business, we now use a "born on date" with all the heavy-load guns. I don't remember the exact period of time for the .44's but once it hits the maximum amount of months that I allow them on the line, we sell them off to staff. We just sold a few of the S&W .500's to the staff for $100 and $125. I do an "auction" with the staff with a number that I already know that I am going to sell it for. I let them bid in $1 and $5 increments until somebody hits the magic number. V/R Ron Originally Posted By HendersonDefense:
Originally Posted By Holes:
Hey Ron. Hope all is well with you and yours. This far I’ve mostly talked to you in the AR-15 forum. Just curious if you have or have had any .44 Magnum revolvers on the line? Thank you Ron V/R Ron
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I think I need to move to Vegas and throw in an application.
We had about 7-8 Glocks but the wife took those to our retail store to give locals some good deals as well (and a Barrett M107A1 with new suppressor). V/R Ron |
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Originally Posted By HendersonDefense:
It's to keep the morale of the staff up. I believe we sold three of our Springfield Armory 1911's for as low as $25 and as high as $75. I sold off about 12-14 of the Remington and Mossberg 12 gauges for $25 each and then "parts" guns for about $10. Two weeks ago the staff got some crazy deals on S&W revolvers, Remington 700's, PTR-91's, Inland (not WWII-ear) carbines and 1911's. I honestly felt bad after like the third day because guys were plotting how to lie their wives about not telling about the purchases. Some guys wanted to buy more of them and I could see in their eyes.. "if the she finds out I am dead but I can't pass the deal up". God I remember those days
We had about 7-8 Glocks but the wife took those to our retail store to give locals some good deals as well (and a Barrett M107A1 with new suppressor). V/R Ron Originally Posted By HendersonDefense:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I think I need to move to Vegas and throw in an application.
We had about 7-8 Glocks but the wife took those to our retail store to give locals some good deals as well (and a Barrett M107A1 with new suppressor). V/R Ron
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Originally Posted By DanW: While I'm curious how they'll do, and they appear to be good guns, I just won't knowingly buy a product made in that back-stabbing, underhanded, sneaky, terrorist supporting country. I don't think Americans realize what Turkey is up to these days. Even those that do probably don't know anywhere near the extent of it. |
