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Posted: 10/20/2024 1:25:57 PM EST
Not my best shooting today. I hate to blame the N frame but I definitely don't think I would have dropped the same misses with a k frame. At least I felt all my reloads were solid.


Link Posted: 10/20/2024 3:28:21 PM EST
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Honestly, looks good man.  You were out moving and shooting today.  I was mowing my lawn……
Link Posted: 10/20/2024 3:43:10 PM EST
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I've seen people reload semi-auto's much, much slower.
Link Posted: 10/20/2024 10:32:04 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/20/2024 11:44:19 PM EST
[#4]
Looks good man! What speed loaders are you using?
Link Posted: 10/21/2024 7:44:05 AM EST
[#5]
What load did you shoot?

Nice shooting!
Link Posted: 10/21/2024 8:34:14 AM EST
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45 win mag brass in moonclips
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Link Posted: 10/21/2024 8:35:38 AM EST
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What load did you shoot?

Nice shooting!
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230 grain rimrock rn cast bullets over 9gr w231 in .45 win mag brass. Gets 950fps
Link Posted: 10/21/2024 10:42:04 PM EST
[#8]
Ok, that's pretty cool.

The brass is cheaper than I expected, but the guy picking up your empties gets an atta boy - just because.

The revolver  I'm assuming it's chambered in 45LC?  Or is it actually chambered in 45 Win Mag?  Had to look up the Win Mag loads, it looks impressive at the top end.  Loading down to .45acp levels is a bonus.

Am also curious if it's chamfered, my 22-4 isn't, my 325TR is, and the difference is night and day on reloads.  One requires a level of precision and a dash of luck, the other requires getting the bullets in the same zip code for success.

What's the reloading setup, if you don't mind sharing?  Always like to see what I can learn from what others are doing.
Link Posted: 10/23/2024 7:58:03 PM EST
[#9]
You ran that thing good man.

I snagged my first moon clip revolver and gotta get practicing on the reloads.

I wanna try IDPA next year for the first time.
Link Posted: 10/24/2024 8:43:45 PM EST
[#10]
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably
Link Posted: 10/31/2024 12:03:10 PM EST
[#11]
I just had another kid, so I only shot my second ICORE match of the year last weekend. I felt like I did terrible (among other things, incorrectly counting to 6 three times, lol). In the end, I placed in the top third, and mid level in my division (limited 6, with a moon clipped model 29.) Not bad for not practicing for six months.


Link Posted: 10/31/2024 12:06:46 PM EST
[#12]
That was awesome video you got out to shoot the match, and had your own cheering section too!

Bigger_Hammer
Link Posted: 10/31/2024 1:42:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably
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Absolutely but the bigger chamber let's the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps
Link Posted: 10/31/2024 3:33:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


Absolutely but the bigger chamber lets the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably


Absolutely but the bigger chamber lets the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps

That's really surprising and good to know

I would have guessed under 50 fps
Link Posted: 10/31/2024 6:15:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Papposilenus:

That's really surprising and good to know

I would have guessed under 50 fps
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Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably


Absolutely but the bigger chamber lets the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps

That's really surprising and good to know

I would have guessed under 50 fps


Revolver guy Sam on YouTube found the same thing.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 6:40:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


Revolver guy Sam on YouTube found the same thing.
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably


Absolutely but the bigger chamber lets the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps

That's really surprising and good to know

I would have guessed under 50 fps


Revolver guy Sam on YouTube found the same thing.

Wonder if that will be similar in 38Super vs 9mm been leaning towards 9mm for the 686 but maybe super would be better.
Link Posted: 11/1/2024 7:35:19 PM EST
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Wonder if that will be similar in 38Super vs 9mm been leaning towards 9mm for the 686 but maybe super would be better.
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Originally Posted By Gunnie357:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably


Absolutely but the bigger chamber lets the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps

That's really surprising and good to know

I would have guessed under 50 fps


Revolver guy Sam on YouTube found the same thing.

Wonder if that will be similar in 38Super vs 9mm been leaning towards 9mm for the 686 but maybe super would be better.


I don't think so. You need need to rechamer them. 9mm/super are a tiny bit bigger.

And I think .357 is high pressure enough that it should seal the chamber ok
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 11:06:09 AM EST
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I don't think so. You need need to rechamer them. 9mm/super are a tiny bit bigger.

And I think .357 is high pressure enough that it should seal the chamber ok
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Gunnie357:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably


Absolutely but the bigger chamber lets the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps

That's really surprising and good to know

I would have guessed under 50 fps


Revolver guy Sam on YouTube found the same thing.

Wonder if that will be similar in 38Super vs 9mm been leaning towards 9mm for the 686 but maybe super would be better.


I don't think so. You need need to rechamer them. 9mm/super are a tiny bit bigger.

And I think .357 is high pressure enough that it should seal the chamber ok

So ACP being lower pressure and the chambers being slightly oversized is what causes the blow by and poor velocity? Not the shorter case length.
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 12:04:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Gunnie357:

So ACP being lower pressure and the chambers being slightly oversized is what causes the blow by and poor velocity? Not the shorter case length.
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Originally Posted By Gunnie357:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Gunnie357:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably


Absolutely but the bigger chamber lets the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps

That's really surprising and good to know

I would have guessed under 50 fps


Revolver guy Sam on YouTube found the same thing.

Wonder if that will be similar in 38Super vs 9mm been leaning towards 9mm for the 686 but maybe super would be better.


I don't think so. You need need to rechamer them. 9mm/super are a tiny bit bigger.

And I think .357 is high pressure enough that it should seal the chamber ok

So ACP being lower pressure and the chambers being slightly oversized is what causes the blow by and poor velocity? Not the shorter case length.


That's my theory.
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 12:08:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


That's my theory.
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Gunnie357:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Gunnie357:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably


Absolutely but the bigger chamber lets the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps

That's really surprising and good to know

I would have guessed under 50 fps


Revolver guy Sam on YouTube found the same thing.

Wonder if that will be similar in 38Super vs 9mm been leaning towards 9mm for the 686 but maybe super would be better.


I don't think so. You need need to rechamer them. 9mm/super are a tiny bit bigger.

And I think .357 is high pressure enough that it should seal the chamber ok

So ACP being lower pressure and the chambers being slightly oversized is what causes the blow by and poor velocity? Not the shorter case length.


That's my theory.

Makes sense I just need to figure out how I’m going to decide which one to have my 3” machined for
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 12:35:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Gunnie357:

Makes sense I just need to figure out how I’m going to decide which one to have my 3” machined for
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Gunnie357:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Gunnie357:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably


Absolutely but the bigger chamber lets the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps

That's really surprising and good to know

I would have guessed under 50 fps


Revolver guy Sam on YouTube found the same thing.

Wonder if that will be similar in 38Super vs 9mm been leaning towards 9mm for the 686 but maybe super would be better.


I don't think so. You need need to rechamer them. 9mm/super are a tiny bit bigger.

And I think .357 is high pressure enough that it should seal the chamber ok

So ACP being lower pressure and the chambers being slightly oversized is what causes the blow by and poor velocity? Not the shorter case length.


That's my theory.

Makes sense I just need to figure out how I’m going to decide which one to have my 3” machined for


You could just get a spare cylinder. They're typically around $100.
Link Posted: 11/2/2024 12:48:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


You could just get a spare cylinder. They're typically around $100.
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Originally Posted By Gunnie357:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Gunnie357:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Papposilenus:
Nice reloads

Moon clips are awesome, and I really appreciate them in the unload half of the cycle

could you use 45acp brass depending on load?  I didn't see any issue, but shorter brass might clear the cylinder more reliably


Absolutely but the bigger chamber lets the bullets lose a lot of velocity. Like 200fps

That's really surprising and good to know

I would have guessed under 50 fps


Revolver guy Sam on YouTube found the same thing.

Wonder if that will be similar in 38Super vs 9mm been leaning towards 9mm for the 686 but maybe super would be better.


I don't think so. You need need to rechamer them. 9mm/super are a tiny bit bigger.

And I think .357 is high pressure enough that it should seal the chamber ok

So ACP being lower pressure and the chambers being slightly oversized is what causes the blow by and poor velocity? Not the shorter case length.


That's my theory.

Makes sense I just need to figure out how I’m going to decide which one to have my 3” machined for


You could just get a spare cylinder. They're typically around $100.

They said either one 357/38 would still be useable. Don’t want to drop the coin to do both so probably safer to not buy a second cylinder
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