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Posted: 9/6/2008 5:56:15 PM EDT
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Anyone know the story on this? They're on Widener's website:
Link They're $14 each or $13 each for 5 or more. For a Glock collector, they would seem like a neat thing to have. |
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"Only the dead have seen the end of war" --Plato
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So, they are like Korean made Scherer mags?
I'll stick with factory mags for a few dollars more. |
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I agree with IB but if someone wanted to buy a couple, test drive them and report back to us I wouldn't complain
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I noticed these as well. I have been looking for a report, but have not found anything at all on any boards yet. They look like well done copies of an original Glock mag... from the pictures they look decent... better than Scherer crap. FML at least. A few months ago, these wouldnt make any sense to buy, with factory mags being $16, but with the recent price hike on Glock parts and mags, they might be worth a shot. If anyone try's 'em, please post! I may give them a shot... |
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"Which brings me to another point... make doubly sure the stalls are empty before shouting at your penis in the men's room."--Cypher214
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Indeed. Having heard nothing about them, knowing they aren't Glock factory, and the factory ones aren't a whole lot more than that, I would stick with factory and not look back. But yes, I as well would like to hear a "test drive" report, if only for curiousity's sake..... |
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Dan's Ammo has 'em as well for 2 at 29.99 shipped. I ordered some, and will try to give a range report.
www.dansammo.com/odds.asp |
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Not near cheap enough to deal with the obvious reduction in quality.
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#1 rule of survival: Sometimes you die.
Interdum vos intereo Vos es valde bardus |
hell I'm Korean and I agree There's absolutely no way I'd risk my life by buying a knockoff, simply to save a few bucks. I buy factory, I inspect them, and I test them thoroughly. |
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Hobbes : "Do you think there's a God?
Calvin : "Well somebody's out to get me!" |
HA! Right on! |
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Absolutely. These should NOT be used for self defense purposes. It will be interesting to see if they will be any good for range/training, or just for malfunction drills. |
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Thanks! I look forward to your report. |
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"Only the dead have seen the end of war" --Plato
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I went ahead and ordered some. I figured I had spent that much on a bad meal with poor service so I would give them a try. Already had 7 Glock factory mags for the G19, and figured I would buy these and try them out. If they are junk I will put them in my wife's garage sale.
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Hmmm...
"Swap Meet Louie"? |
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"I drink your milkshake! I drink it up!"
"I put the sensual back in nonconsensual." |
Not cheap enough.
I got 50 G19 mags from CDNN last month for $11.99 each. They were used LEO mags but most of them were like new and few were used but not abused. Free shipping too. |
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Damn, and I thought I was being greedy with ordering 20... |
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"I drink your milkshake! I drink it up!"
"I put the sensual back in nonconsensual." |
Hell, I ordered 35 G18 mags from Botach about 8 months ago when they had it on sale for $23 each with free shipping. Now I'm waiting for a good sale on FML G17 mags. I'll be willing to buy another 50. Remember... Glock mags will only go up in price now. |
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If Osama Bin Biden gets elected, we won't be able to buy them at any price! |
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Nice write up Agrippa. Thank you.
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Completely baffled by the backward indication that an inspired word will come across your tongue.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime. Take my fish and eat lead. - Torin |
Yes dude, thanks for doin' this test. I feel we can all benefit from the information. Very cool. And thanks for the detailed pics. Lookin' at the pics, you definitely see the differences, and I can see a spot here and there where the "lesser" quality does show, but honestly, they're not as bad as I thought they'd be, visually at least. Tell me this, when fully loaded to capacity, lookin' at the back of the mag, at the bottom, does the mag baseplate "bow out" at all, as in downward? This is somethin' I'd look at, as we've all heard of aftermarket mags doin' this, and fallin' apart with roulds and spring goin' all over the place. Just curious how this area looks, when they're fully loaded. Thanks for the write up. Hell, we should almost send ya some more ammo to continue the test! |
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Thank you. It is the least I can do, compared to the info I have gleaned from this site. And yes, there are parts that look less finished, but doesn't seem to detract from the performance, and some parts, like the mag insert, look better than OEM. I am just wondering about the quality of materials that went into this. Is it a similar polymer, metal, or spring? Only time will tell is they can stand up to the use and abuse. You can see the lack of finish on the front of the Kmag, G18 left, G19 center, Kmag right: As far as the baseplate "bowing out", I have not seen this happen yet. I am leaving one loaded to see what happens. Here is a loaded one compared to an empty mag: I hope this helps! |
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Very interesting, thanks for that pic. That's exactly the area I was wondering about. Actually looks good from here.
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I bought 3 of them and tried them out right out of the wrapper. Seem to work just fine, no problems of any kind. Drop free fully loaded, load easy enough, fit gun ok, no malfunctions. Much like the above and better review. Just thought I would throw in my 2 cents worth too. My only question would be would they wear out faster? No more than I shoot anymore, they will probably last forever.
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Thanks for the write up Agrippa!
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Thank you, Agrippa.
I was on vacation so I didn't see this until I got back. |
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"Only the dead have seen the end of war" --Plato
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People do know that the ROK Army handgun is the Glock 19 right?
This could be considered KGI (Korean Govt Issue ) |
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April 19, 1775
A real patriot will hate his government because he loves his country. |
Since when did ROK Army issue the G19? Do you have any source for this? Last I checked it was the K5 a.k.a. DP-51 pistol. |
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They look pretty good.
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With the increase in the price of Glock mags these don't look too bad. I ordered a few to try out. At $12 it is worth a try.
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"We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "f**k" on their airplanes because it's obscene." - Colonel Walter E. Kurtz, character played by Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now
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According to Wikipedia, the Glock 19 is used by the ROK military and the Blue House Security force.
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I picked up 2 at the gunshow for "range mags"
They function great, and only cost $12 each. Id buy more |
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Originally Posted By Kymas23:
According to Wikipedia, the Glock 19 is used by the ROK military and the Blue House Security force. I wonder why they wouldn't use a Daewoo pistol.................oh yeah, 'cause Glock kicks ass! |
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K stands for Kimchi, so Kmag is Kimchi mag. Not a bad knock off. They did shoes and suits too when I was over there. Koreans can copy anything except blond hair and blue eyes.
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Originally Posted By Agrippa:
Thank you. It is the least I can do, compared to the info I have gleaned from this site. And yes, there are parts that look less finished, but doesn't seem to detract from the performance, and some parts, like the mag insert, look better than OEM. I am just wondering about the quality of materials that went into this. Is it a similar polymer, metal, or spring? Only time will tell is they can stand up to the use and abuse. Nice pix! Kinda curious, Agrippa, do these Kmags have the ambidextrous magazine release cutout on the upper front portion of the magazine body? TK |
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Bump... now that everyone's panic shopping for mags, this is good to know. Widener's shows 1800 in stock as of right now, and they're still $14 with cheap shipping. I just ordered one, and I'll probably get 2 or 3 more if I'm satisfied with them. Thanks for the write-up!
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"Send lawyers, guns and money... the shit has hit the fan." -Warren Zevon
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I bought 5 of them and they look good. I know they aren't worth squat if they don't work, so I am going to try them out at my next match. If they work they will become my dedicated range mags.
Mags work fine. |
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"We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "f**k" on their airplanes because it's obscene." - Colonel Walter E. Kurtz, character played by Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now
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I ordered 5 of these from Wideners on monday, I'll report back once I've had a chance to try them out.
ETA: I got my mags today. When loading a bunch of Glock mags, I always use the speedloader made by Glock. You cannot use the Glock loader to load these mags, the follower tilts to the rear and makes a mess. Otherwise these seem great for range use. |
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Good for range mags. I use old, ratty LE mags that still run fine. I'd get these before using a latest gen Glock mag for the range.
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According to the latest Janes defense publication dated 2008. the DP51 mk II is the ROKs military sidearm. When I was stationed in South Korea back in 1982 Daewoo made alot of parts for our M-16s. Many people did not know this little known fact.
I carried an M-16/GAU for better than 23 years in the US Air Force, taught it as an instructor. Nothing wrong with Korean mfg weapons. I've seen more problems with our M-9s than I ever saw with the Daewoo 9mm pistols. |
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Everything seems to be interchangeable. Which means you can replace the sprigs with Glock OEM or Wolf springs when they wear.
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I picked up five just for shits and giggles and so far I'm impressed with them. They appear to be identical to OEM magazines with a slight difference in the color and feel of a standard Glock magazine.
I haven't had a chance to shoot them yet (I shot my G26 this weekend instead of my G19) but I did load them up and dropped them on the garage floor several times and they held together which is more than I expected. I'll get them to the range this weekend and get some rounds through them but I think they'll be good range mags which is what I bought them for. |
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Ran 10 of these this past Sunday at the range.Ran each mag twice for a total of 300 rounds fired "Without Issue".Mags drop free fully loaded or not.There are a few extra plastic burrs to clean up and the factory Glock speedloader doesn't work with the KCI's.But all in all they worked very well and will be my range mags from now on.
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Make My Day “Punk”…Pull My Finger
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I have no experience with these magazines, but I found a link to them on another site. They're $11.99 each here.
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Hey contactcole2, that was a very well thought out and logical review. Good on you!
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Originally Posted By M4arc:
Hey contactcole2, that was a very well thought out and logical review. Good on you! Good reporting on this product in general. |
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I'm still watching this thread. Great info.
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"Only the dead have seen the end of war" --Plato
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Update: Range Test #1 = 235 rounds, 2 mags = 0 FTF/FTE various firing scenarios.
My original post updated. |
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I just went to the range with the one I bought for testing. While it was reliable, it *DID NOT* drop free from my 2nd gen. G19... either full or empty.
Definitely leaving this one in the range-only pile, and sticking to OEM Glock mags from now on. |
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"Send lawyers, guns and money... the shit has hit the fan." -Warren Zevon
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Got mine and they function 100%!
Very good bargain. |
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