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Posted: 1/27/2020 5:39:28 PM EDT
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@brazos609 I can send it to you, just email email me or send me a pm. Sent pm |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 5:53:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @mhode PM sent |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 5:56:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @mhode Sent pm @brazos609 Got it, email sent |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 6:49:41 PM EDT
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I converted the PSD file to PDF format and reduced size from 23mb to 1mb for ease of emailing and use. I forwarded links to everyone who PM'd me. If anyone else wants it I'll probably set up a google drive and post the link or else we'll have to deal with my slow ass getting around to sending it out. Thanks to @SilasB, its his PSD file, I just made it easier to use, lol. |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 7:01:26 PM EDT
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Editable PDF is def the way to go. |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 7:10:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do we need Adobe Pro or just regular Adobe? |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 8:13:46 PM EDT
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Anyone here deal with K5 Arms in Trophy Club, TX? (near Ft Worth)/quote Whats your number, I am thinking its not going to happen. I am 17. |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 8:18:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have one on prepay with them too, under 20 on their list. Been on the list since January 2nd. I talked to them yesterday and was told that they have received about eight in total. I asked if they expected any more and they said yes and that they had 100 on order. I feel it seems unlikely that they will get 92 more if they've only gotten eight so far. I asked at what time would they concede that they would not be getting more and was told in 60 days. So, in short if they don't get them in within in two months we can expect a refund. |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 8:22:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Anyone here deal with K5 Arms in Trophy Club, TX? (near Ft Worth)/quote Whats your number, I am thinking its not going to happen. I am 17. 
Like I said, I picked one up at the DACA show on set-up day, I didn't trust K5...but I'll let it ride for now, but they better refund the money when the time comes as quick as they charged it... |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 9:18:23 PM EDT
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yes sir they better!
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Posted: 1/27/2020 9:29:15 PM EDT
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Are these expected to actually be worth anything more than the purchase price?
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Posted: 1/27/2020 9:34:56 PM EDT
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Are these expected to actually be worth anything more than the purchase price? Doubtful the US Gov will allow more to be surplused like these anytime soon...I think these were a bit of a fluke... |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 9:41:06 PM EDT
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Doubtful the US Gov will allow more to be surplused like these anytime soon...I think these were a bit of a fluke... |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 9:44:28 PM EDT
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Neat stroke of luck, I’m one of the lucky few guys who’s serial number has bounced back to a unit so far (nothing yet on my other pistol...but I’m a patient guy).
I was able to find the battalion’s FB group and sent a message to them at lunch asking if they could provide any more history, and they responded this evening!  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 9:45:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The US government didn’t allow the sale because the pistols didn’t belong to the US government. These were US Gov property...just like the USMC M45's... |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 9:53:31 PM EDT
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Neat stroke of luck, I’m one of the lucky few guys who’s serial number has bounced back to a unit so far (nothing yet on my other pistol...but I’m a patient guy). I was able to find the battalion’s FB group and sent a message to them at lunch asking if they could provide any more history, and they responded this evening! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/121479/C242BEED-1C4E-4FE0-A828-26F81B620ECC_jpe-1252543.JPG |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 9:56:43 PM EDT
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Sure they did...and the US Government returned them to be brought up to current standards, and Sig said we will just replace them, can we do what we want with these? These were US Gov property...just like the USMC M45's... |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 10:19:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At the time they were sold, they were not government property. The government had no say in the sale. I am sure the gov could have demanded Sig destroy them, or sell them only to approved LE agencies, etc...I am actually really surprised they allowed Sig to do this... In any case they were actual government property which is why they are in such demand...just like previous US Property M1 Garands and Carbines...there is a reason why the commercial copy carbines don't command the prices USGI carbines do... |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 10:24:24 PM EDT
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Neat stroke of luck, I'm one of the lucky few guys who's serial number has bounced back to a unit so far (nothing yet on my other pistol...but I'm a patient guy). I was able to find the battalion's FB group and sent a message to them at lunch asking if they could provide any more history, and they responded this evening! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/121479/C242BEED-1C4E-4FE0-A828-26F81B620ECC_jpe-1252543.JPG 
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Posted: 1/27/2020 10:30:05 PM EDT
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Just acquired 2551 and 2532
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Posted: 1/27/2020 10:50:48 PM EDT
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Mhode. Email just sent for a copy of the file.
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Posted: 1/27/2020 11:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really? You think the government could not tell Sig they could not sell them? I am sure the government had to give their blessing one way or the other... I am sure the gov could have demanded Sig destroy them, or sell them only to approved LE agencies, etc...I am actually really surprised they allowed Sig to do this... In any case they were actual government property which is why they are in such demand...just like previous US Property M1 Garands and Carbines...there is a reason why the commercial copy carbines don't command the prices USGI carbines do... |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 11:12:36 PM EDT
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If anyone has the following serial #, I'd be interested in speaking to you:
4530 4532 3522 3524 3331 3329 3319 3321 |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 11:54:47 PM EDT
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I ended up with 001088, and a guy in the FB group wants to trade me for one of his because he has one of the decom M45A1’s with ten same SN. Do you guys think the lower SN’s like mine would be any more collectible over something in the 4000 range?
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Posted: 1/28/2020 12:10:01 AM EDT
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I ended up with 001088, and a guy in the FB group wants to trade me for one of his because he has one of the decom M45A1’s with ten same SN. Do you guys think the lower SN’s like mine would be any more collectible over something in the 4000 range? |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 12:11:21 AM EDT
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I ended up with 001088, and a guy in the FB group wants to trade me for one of his because he has one of the decom M45A1’s with ten same SN. Do you guys think the lower SN’s like mine would be any more collectible over something in the 4000 range? I definitely would not trade my 1k for a 4k. He would have to trade me for a lower serial number in same or better condition than mine OR 2 for my 1. The lower the serial the more money people spend look at the pivot tables they created showing how the price correlates to the lower the serial number is. |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 12:16:15 AM EDT
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If anyone has the following serial #, I'd be interested in speaking to you: 4530 4532 3522 3524 3331 3329 3319 3321 You bought 4531 at Shoot Point Blank didn't you? |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 12:18:03 AM EDT
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I’ve got the 4586 and 4940. Not that I was expecting them to be but both turned out to be very clean.
If any of the ARFCOM members have the below, I would like to speak to them for a trade. 4585 4587 4939 4941 Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 12:19:56 AM EDT
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I have
TF000423 TF003966 TF004988 TF005888 and would like a match or a trade. |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 12:23:06 AM EDT
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If anyone has the following serial #, I'd be interested in speaking to you: 4530 4532 3522 3524 3331 3329 3319 3321 Your inbox is full |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 12:23:53 AM EDT
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Neat stroke of luck, I’m one of the lucky few guys who’s serial number has bounced back to a unit so far (nothing yet on my other pistol...but I’m a patient guy). I was able to find the battalion’s FB group and sent a message to them at lunch asking if they could provide any more history, and they responded this evening! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/121479/C242BEED-1C4E-4FE0-A828-26F81B620ECC_jpe-1252543.JPG |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 12:50:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @dnuggett1 Your inbox is full |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 12:52:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @dnuggett1 You bought 4531 at Shoot Point Blank didn't you? |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 1:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Spoken for long before you ordered it online actually. They goofed and sold you it. Hopefully they made you whole. I want pictures of what could have been, please? |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 1:18:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @dnuggett1 I want pictures of what could have been, please? |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 3:39:13 AM EDT
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3015/3016 were a pair. Another seller had 3014 listed. Wife wasn't terribly impressed  but she kinda understands. |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 7:17:01 AM EDT
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Mhode. Email just sent for a copy of the file. |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 7:23:12 AM EDT
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I ended up with serials
511 1193 2046 3917 4794 All of them are in very good shape, definitely wear and use and they all have a rack number or sticker/tape. Still waiting to pick up 2046 the HQ marked one. I still haven’t traced where any served but I’m still looking.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 7:29:06 AM EDT
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@usasof M17 card file sent
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Posted: 1/28/2020 7:40:07 AM EDT
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I converted the PSD file to PDF format and reduced size from 23mb to 1mb for ease of emailing and use. I forwarded links to everyone who PM'd me. If anyone else wants it I'll probably set up a google drive and post the link or else we'll have to deal with my slow ass getting around to sending it out. Thanks to @SilasB, its his PSD file, I just made it easier to use, lol. |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 7:43:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn! You are double lucky. Multiple M17s plus sequential numbers.
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Posted: 1/28/2020 10:12:44 AM EDT
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I ended up with 001088, and a guy in the FB group wants to trade me for one of his because he has one of the decom M45A1’s with ten same SN. Do you guys think the lower SN’s like mine would be any more collectible over something in the 4000 range? |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 10:24:35 AM EDT
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If there's a point you're trying to make, make it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Really? You think the government could not tell Sig they could not sell them? I am sure the government had to give their blessing one way or the other... I am sure the gov could have demanded Sig destroy them, or sell them only to approved LE agencies, etc...I am actually really surprised they allowed Sig to do this... In any case they were actual government property which is why they are in such demand...just like previous US Property M1 Garands and Carbines...there is a reason why the commercial copy carbines don't command the prices USGI carbines do... It's true that the M45A1 and M17 surpluses are happening with the knowledge of the feds and that the surpluses are "Clean" because they are getting transferred back to the manufacturer of record. That mfg is then selling them. The Colt M45A1s popping out into civilian hands was a big deal because there have not been legal surpluses of US Mil handguns for decades if forever. From what I understand, Colt was allowed to sell these because: |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 10:25:13 AM EDT
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1) The procurement contract didn't contemplate what Colt could do with guns it took back as warranty/service items from the Gov't and 2) Colt was wrestling with insolvency. This sort of warranty exchange followed by civilian resale had never been done for Colt 1911a1s, Beretta M9s, HK MK whatevers, SIG P226s, Glock 19s, etc. etc. etc. Happens all the time with police departments and even used to happen with the FBI (I have a 1076 from this). But not US military. Sig Sauer pulled the same stunt with the M17s that were either coming back for 1) buyer's remorse over the color of the curtains 2) buyer's remorse over the durability of the pretty tan controls 3) buyer's remorse over drop safety, depending on who you believe. Seems like we have heard all three and maybe more narratives about the reason for the returns. Time will tell.
As I wrote in an earlier post, either we are in a new era in which US mil suppliers are going to be allowed to recoup some money with these sorts of warranty returns followed by civilian resale -OR- the procurement people are going to get wise to this and close the loophole explicitly. I wouldn't be surprised if a Dem congress and President Warren or Sanders or even Trump would want to close this loophole with a law. Either way I think the M17 is a pretty cool, shootable piece of history. It'll always have value if this is a temporary loophole (then +++$$) or if they start selling more former military weapons (then ===$$). Just my $.09. |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 10:39:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @OilfieldTrash78 I definitely would not trade my 1k for a 4k. He would have to trade me for a lower serial number in same or better condition than mine OR 2 for my 1. The lower the serial the more money people spend look at the pivot tables they created showing how the price correlates to the lower the serial number is. No, 1XXX doesnt command an ounce of permium over a 4XXX.... |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 10:48:07 AM EDT
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Lol, this post is ridiculous. No, 1XXX doesnt command an ounce of permium over a 4XXX.... |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 10:48:19 AM EDT
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Lol, this post is ridiculous. No, 1XXX doesnt command an ounce of permium over a 4XXX.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: @OilfieldTrash78 I definitely would not trade my 1k for a 4k. He would have to trade me for a lower serial number in same or better condition than mine OR 2 for my 1. The lower the serial the more money people spend look at the pivot tables they created showing how the price correlates to the lower the serial number is. No, 1XXX doesnt command an ounce of permium over a 4XXX.... |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 11:02:49 AM EDT
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Does anyone have #521?
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Posted: 1/28/2020 11:30:01 AM EDT
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Ok, so what is the best way to work out a trade if this guy isn’t local? I have never done anything like that that wasn’t done through this forum. He is willing to have it sent by his FFL, and give me some cash on top. Just want to make sure I don’t get screwed.
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Posted: 1/28/2020 11:32:49 AM EDT
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better hurry
$699 https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/sig-sauer-p320-military-surplus-9mm-luger-47in-coyote-brown-pistol-211-rounds-used/p/1621692 |
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