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Posted: 6/1/2024 10:35:48 PM EDT
@Buffman_LT1

Pilgrim - and has the same failure to penetrate to 12" even in clear gel as the Liberty 50 grn:

Did It Save Face or Fall Flat On It?...Pilgrim Ammunition 9mm +P Torch Self-Defense AMMO Test!
Link Posted: 6/2/2024 9:52:35 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm almost positive Pilgrim gets those bullets from Liberty. They're 10 minutes from each other in Florida..
Link Posted: 6/2/2024 2:49:32 PM EDT
[#2]
If they would just use a 50 grn solid I bet we'd get 16" of penetration or more, w/ a pretty violent upset.  Why they want to use pre-fragmented bullets that won't go 12" in clear gel I don't know.
Link Posted: 6/3/2024 9:37:35 AM EDT
[#3]
I would agree. They've picked the light and fast route, and I feel it has some merit in this case (not like some that are 1500-1600 fps) but those penetration depths are a major downfall.
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